Warhead36 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 1 hour ago, stevemcqueen1 said: When this came up in the draft thread last week, I spent way too long looking for examples of seasons where one of the most explosive playmaking and individually dominant QBs won the SB in the last 20 years, and it was bizarrely uncommon. Pretty much Peyton Manning in 2006 was the only clear cut example of it, with Brees in 2009 and Mahomes in 2019 being on the fringe of that with 17 AV seasons the years they won. What's fascinatingly consistent is that, in the best individual seasons of the careers of all of the great QBs from the last two generations, years where they won MVPs and put up 19+ AV, they almost never won the SB too. In almost every case they lost in the postseason when they came up against a team with a better defense and/or OL. And for the QBs who had that happen but also won SBs in other years, those were seasons where they were almost always much more ordinary--13-16 AV years or maybe even less. This is way too pronounced a pattern not to have a causal connection. Teams that get dominant individual QB play are flawed in some kind of way that dooms them against more complete teams with lesser QB play. Something that works for them in the regular season stops working in the postseason. It kind of reminds me of the NBA when guys who live at the FT line and win scoring titles and MVPs in the regular season run into a wall in the playoffs and get exposed. Defense does still win championships, but it is immensely difficult to build a championship caliber D, they never tend to stay together and play at a championship level for very long, and it is monstrously difficult to reload after a decline in level of play--this is why there are no repeat SB winners in forever. But if you ever want to win a SB--even if you have a HoF bound QB--you still have to build that defense. You need a franchise level QB to allow you to be a year in year out contender. Then you just hope one year the stars align, the balls bounce your way, and you can fit enough talented players into a window to win a ring. I think what Rivera is trying to do is build us the way the Steelers, Ravens, Seahawks et al were built. They had the defenses set up first, then went out and got young QBs(Roethlisberger, Flacco/Jackson, Wilson)to elevate into contender status. Chiefs kinda did the same with Mahomes too except they had built up the offense first(since Reid is an offensive coach, those other three teams had more defensive coaches). If you get the QB first you run the risk of ruining his development because you don't have a team around him. I think you'll end up seeing that potentially with Lawrence, Wilson, and maybe Fields(though he does have a defense at least). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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