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Has your team support wained due to ownership or can you see past it?  

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  1. 1. Will you attend a game and support the team while Dan Snyder is the owner of the team, regardless of success?

    • Yes
    • No
    • I would start attending games if Dan was no longer the owner of the team.


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9 hours ago, Rocky21 said:

The owners didn’t vote Richardson out.  He sold voluntarily.  There is no precedent of the billionaire owners voting someone out of their billionaire club.

 

I’m ready to set the precedent.  All the losing, all of the turmoil, all of the embarrassment of being a fan of this team…it’s all the responsibility of Snyder.  
 

 

You are right, technically they have never voted an owner out. But again Richardson had no interest in selling before the controversy, he had planned to pass the franchise on to his kids.  So it really wasn't voluntary at all.

 

So "vote him out" or "force him out" seems to be semantics.  Either way they rid the league of an owner for poor behavior so it's more similar than people here want to admit IMO.  

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4 minutes ago, Darrell Green Fan said:

 

You are right, technically they have never voted an owner out. But again Richardson had no interest in selling before the controversy, he had planned to pass the franchise on to his kids.  So it really wasn't voluntary at all.

 

So "vote him out" or "force him out" seems to be semantics.  Either way they rid the league of an owner for poor behavior so it's more similar than people here want to admit IMO.  

 

I'm on a fishing trip and just woke from a nap, totally blanking that I had already responded to this post. But I like this version better so I'm keeping it.  

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Dan Snyder is counting on a Big Law team that includes the ex-Goldman Sachs Group Inc. legal chief to keep ownership of his NFL team as a House panel seeks to compel his testimony about misconduct allegations.

Karen Patton Seymour, who helped Goldman settle criminal investigations in the 1MDB scandal, is working with Snyder after returning to Sullivan & Cromwell last year, House Committee on Oversight and Reform documents show.

Reed Smith partners Jordan Siev, James McCarroll, A. Scott Bolden and Cindy Minniti are also helping Snyder, said a person familiar with the matter.

The House panel, the NFL and two state attorneys general are investigating Snyder and the Washington Commanders over employee allegations of workplace and sexual misconduct and financial impropriety. Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-NY), the panel chair, said June 22 she would subpoena Snyder to testify.

“The stakes are extremely high,” said Thomas Baker, a University of Georgia sport management and policy professor and former litigator. “There’s a clear and obvious effort to pressure the NFL to do something about Dan Snyder.”

High Stakes

In Seymour, Snyder has a veteran of high-stakes matters. While serving as general counsel and executive vice president at Goldman from 2018 to 2021, she helped settle probes of the bank’s role in the biggest foreign bribery case in US enforcement history.

Goldman in 2020 admitted its role in the scandal involving Malaysian sovereign wealth fund 1MDB and agreed to penalties that then put its overall tab at more than $5 billion, Bloomberg News reported.

Before her work at Goldman, Seymour helped steer settlements at Sullivan & Cromwell between the government and financial institutions, including one involving French international banking group BNP Paribas in 2014.

She helped convict Martha Stewart in 2004 of charges tied to the ImClone stock trading investigation while serving in the US attorney’s office for the Southern District of New York.

Seymour joined Snyder’s legal team in February, according to a person familiar with the matter. That same month, former Washington team employee Tiffani Johnston alleged during a congressional round table that Snyder touched her inappropriately during a 2009 business dinner. Snyder has denied the allegations.

Seymour voiced due process concerns relating to Snyder’s testimony in a letter to the House panel. She claimed the panel refused to explain the scope and nature of its investigation or what subjects it would ask Snyder about.

“Any alleged workplace misconduct under investigation by the committee occurred more than a decade in the past,” she told the panel.

Seymour, Sullivan & Cromwell and Snyder did not respond to requests for comment about the legal team. A statement released by Snyder’s spokesperson said he “has not refused to appear for a deposition” and “looks forward to finding a path forward.”

Reed Smith Role

Reed Smith allegedly helped Snyder launch a “shadow investigation” of his accusers amid the NFL’s initial probe into the organization, according to a memo the House panel released June 22. That investigation allegedly involved dispatching private investigators to former employees’ homes and abusing subpoena power, according to the panel.

Reed Smith did not respond to a request for comment. The House memo didn’t mention names of any specific attorneys involved in the alleged “shadow investigation.”

On Snyder’s Reed Smith team, Minniti is the managing partner of the firm’s New York office, Bolden is an at-large member of the executive committee, Siev leads the firm’s nonconsumer financial services litigation group, and McCarroll heads the investment management group.

Siev in April signed a letter to the Federal Trade Commission pushing back on allegations referred by the House panel that the team had engaged in unlawful financial conduct.

The House claimed that the Commanders may have intentionally withheld millions of dollars in refundable security deposits owed to customers, citing allegations from former team executive Jason Friedman.

Siev said the team gave Snyder’s counsel no opportunity to address the “false and malicious” claims of a “disgruntled former employee.”

Joe Tacopina, a trial lawyer and senior partner of a New York boutique firm, has worked with Reed Smith and Sullivan & Cromwell and represented Snyder since July 2020, he confirmed in an email though declined additional comment.

Tacopina’s clients have also included rapper Meek Mill and Fox News host Sean Hannity.

A House panel memo highlighted an interview Tacopina gave to a local Washington news outlet in which he explained Snyder’s litigation discovery tactics.

He said in that interview the work was part of an effort to find the sources of a false 2020 article linking Snyder to disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein that ran on the website of an India-based company, according to the memo.

Owners Hold Power

Most at stake for Snyder and his legal team is the owner’s grip over the Washington football franchise, which he purchased in 1999.

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell lacks authority to end a person’s team ownership but can recommend that the league’s executive committee, which includes an owner or top officer from each franchise, act if other punishments are insufficient, according to a copy of NFL bylaws recently produced in federal court.

Three-fourths of the executive committee would need to support such a decision, according to the bylaws.

A removal scenario could apply to Snyder, said Chris Schmidt, a leader of Bryan Cave Leighton Paisner’s sports & entertainment litigation practice.

“The commissioner has broad authority to make recommendations on any conduct that’s deemed detrimental to the best interest of the league,” said Schmidt, who represents NBA, MLB and NHL franchises. “Allegations against Dan Snyder and the Washington football team are serious and if proven certainly are the type of conduct that would be detrimental to the best interest of the NFL.”

Findings from the various investigations could reach a “tipping point” and compel three-fourths of team owners to act on their own, said Jeremi Duru, a professor at American University’s Washington College of Law who studies sports law.

Panel Probe

The House panel began investigating the team last October after the league decided not to release the complete findings of an investigation led by Washington attorney Beth Wilkinson.

The probe found the team had a “highly unprofessional” workplace where bullying and intimidation frequently took place, a league statement summarizing the findings said. “Numerous” female employees reported sexual harassment allegations and senior executives engaged in inappropriate conduct, Wilkinson found, according to the NFL.

The league hit the team with a $10 million fine and said that Snyder’s wife and co-chief executive officer, Tanya Snyder, would take over day-to-day operations for an undisclosed period.

While the House panel lacks authority over the franchise, it has a history of wrapping up probes by issuing recommendations to private companies, said Dave Rapallo, a former staff director for the committee.

The panel could provide its findings to the team and request that it and the NFL act on them, said Rapallo, an associate professor at Georgetown Law School.

More Investigations

Snyder and the team also face an NFL probe led by former Securities and Exchange Commission chair Mary Jo White, a partner at Debevoise & Plimpton.

The investigation looks into an accusation of sexual misconduct against Snyder and other allegations of financial impropriety raised by the House panel. Both matters remain under review, league spokesman Brian McCarthy said.

Virginia Attorney General Jason Miyares is investigating the accusation of unlawful financial conduct against the team, his office’s communications director, Victoria LaCivita, confirmed.

Washington, D.C.'s attorney general, Karl Racine, said in April his office has been investigating Snyder and the Washington organization over allegations of sexual harassment and workplace and financial misconduct.

Both attorney general offices said they had no updates on their investigations.

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I’m encouraged that he feels the need to start preparing for a battle for his franchise.  Maybe there is more filth behind the scenes we do not know about yet. In order for him to reach the level of “not worth it anymore” he’s gotta go through these steps. Just to do what he’s doing already is gonna cost him a pretty penny. Cut and Run Danny Boy! Do all us fans a favor Please…

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Even the framing of that article, which we all kind of know is BS as he’s not literally at imminent risk of losing the franchise without those lawyers—it’s still the way we WANT it being framed in the media. We want the narrative to be “this guy should and could lose his team and needs to prove himself worthy of it”. That can only help.

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8 minutes ago, Conn said:

Even the framing of that article, which we all kind of know is BS as he’s not literally at imminent risk of losing the franchise without those lawyers—it’s still the way we WANT it being framed in the media. We want the narrative to be “this guy should and could lose his team and needs to prove himself worthy of it”. That can only help.

This is going to be my last comment on this topic for a while, I think I'm going to just pop in to see where Dan's yacht is (I could check twitter, but I don't really do that, so this is easier) and ignore just about everything else.  

 

But when you constituency is 31 people who are all much, much, much more aware of Dan's business and the team, does it really matter how it is framed in the media?  I'm not sure it can help. If it could, great. But I don't think it does. Those folks are going to draw their conclusions based on their own self interest, and a hell of a lot more information which is not publicly available. 

 

Because, again, there are 31 votes which matter.  Nothing else matters.  The NFL has made it abundantly clear they have no intension of forcing Dan out over anything found in the Beth Wilkinson investigation.  

 

Unless the MJW investigation turns up something direct and new, all of this is pointless theater. 

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42 minutes ago, Voice_of_Reason said:

This is going to be my last comment on this topic for a while, I think I'm going to just pop in to see where Dan's yacht is (I could check twitter, but I don't really do that, so this is easier) and ignore just about everything else.  

 

But when you constituency is 31 people who are all much, much, much more aware of Dan's business and the team, does it really matter how it is framed in the media?  I'm not sure it can help. If it could, great. But I don't think it does. Those folks are going to draw their conclusions based on their own self interest, and a hell of a lot more information which is not publicly available. 

 

Because, again, there are 31 votes which matter.  Nothing else matters.  The NFL has made it abundantly clear they have no intension of forcing Dan out over anything found in the Beth Wilkinson investigation.  

 

Unless the MJW investigation turns up something direct and new, all of this is pointless theater. 


Yes, it does, because a rising tide of public opinion peaking at just the right moment and forcing the hands of those 31 people is just about the only way they’ll feel compelled to vote him out (without a much bigger assault accusation than we’ve got now, outright racism, or stealing way more money from them than reported). Similar to the name change, it’ll have to be just the right moment in time that happens to coincide with a crest of media attention and public outcry. That’s why it’s important to me, personally. I understand your POV that it doesn’t matter though. 

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39 minutes ago, Conn said:


Yes, it does, because a rising tide of public opinion peaking at just the right moment and forcing the hands of those 31 people is just about the only way they’ll feel compelled to vote him out (without a much bigger assault accusation than we’ve got now, outright racism, or stealing way more money from them than reported). Similar to the name change, it’ll have to be just the right moment in time that happens to coincide with a crest of media attention and public outcry. That’s why it’s important to me, personally. I understand your POV that it doesn’t matter though. 

 

It's a nice thought, and I felt that way for a long time. I just don't see it happening unless Dan's scandal gets so big or explosive as to threaten the league at large. Racism would do it, and that's probably what got Richardson out.

 

Otherwise, I see the owners as not wanting to get too involved. 

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15 minutes ago, profusion said:

 

It's a nice thought, and I felt that way for a long time. I just don't see it happening unless Dan's scandal gets so big or explosive as to threaten the league at large. Racism would do it, and that's probably what got Richardson out.

 

Otherwise, I see the owners as not wanting to get too involved. 

I’ve said this for a long time, but I think it’s pretty clear that there are some NFL systemic issues that if you shined enough light on them, more of this type of behavior would be uncovered in other organizations. It’s pretty obvious we were one of the worst offenders, but it’s equally obvious by the actions of the other owners and goodell to date that they aren’t removing Snyder. If they did there would be some serious Snyder bomb shells that would drop that would take down a host of other individuals, I have no doubt about it!

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11 hours ago, Voice_of_Reason said:

I find it disappointing there is no map attached to this tweet.  

 

I find it disappointing that his Karma in yachting hasn't caught up with his Karma in owning an NFL team. He should have ran around by now, or hit an iceberg, detonated himself in a minefield, something, anything. 

 

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5 hours ago, SkinsFTW said:

 

I find it disappointing that his Karma in yachting hasn't caught up with his Karma in owning an NFL team. He should have ran around by now, or hit an iceberg, detonated himself in a minefield, something, anything. 

 

My guess is Dan’s captain is pretty competent.  And the boat has radar.  
 

Our best chance is a coordinated mass great white shark attack… with laser beams on their heads.  

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10 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

 

 

Maybe Danny knows his days of being an owner are almost done and he's working on getting his CDL for a second career in Italy... 🤣

 

Or he could be going to Umbria, but I prefer the former.

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50 minutes ago, Voice_of_Reason said:

My guess is Dan’s captain is pretty competent.  And the boat has radar.  
 

Our best chance is a coordinated mass great white shark attack… with laser beams on their heads.  

 

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1 hour ago, Voice_of_Reason said:

My guess is Dan’s captain is pretty competent.  And the boat has radar.  
 

 

This ship below has at least 3 surface search navigation radars and at least 6-8 people on watch who are supposed to be looking at them, or using binoculars off both sides of the ship:

 

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And 2 of these ships crashed into other ships a few years ago within months of each other. DS is due, that's all I'm saying lol. 

 

(In that picture, at the very top of the damage is the office I used to work in about 15 years ago. Kind of scary to think about.)

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2 hours ago, SkinsFTW said:

This ship below has at least 3 surface search navigation radars and at least 6-8 people on watch who are supposed to be looking at them, or using binoculars off both sides of the ship:

I don't remember this.  What ship is this?  (Total aside, I'm just curious...)

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4 hours ago, Voice_of_Reason said:

I don't remember this.  What ship is this?  (Total aside, I'm just curious...)

 

 

That's the USS Fitzgerald. The USS John McCain was the other one that ran into another ship the same year.

 

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