FanboyOf91 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 As always in disaster situations, the GOP is a ****show. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 I'm shocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Looks like 25% or US employees would be helped. https://www.bls.gov/web/cewbd/table_f.txt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) This bill is going to be voted down, right? It's garbage! Edited March 14, 2020 by spjunkies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) Companies like McDonalds and Dunkin Donuts are largely run by franchise owners with likely less than 500 employees aren't they? Anyway, I see tons of people on twitter on the left and the right attacking and blaming Democrats for this now. Sigh. Edited March 14, 2020 by visionary 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/03/14/cdc-manual-crisis-coronavirus-trump/?tid=pm_pop&itid=pm_pop Quote After disastrous communications during the 2001 anthrax attacks — when white powder in envelopes sparked widespread panic — the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention created a 450-page manual outlining how U.S. leaders should talk to the public during crises. Protecting vulnerable people from a virus that, according to some projections, could infect millions and kill hundreds of thousands, depends on U.S. leaders issuing clear public health instructions and the public’s trust to follow directions that could save their lives. “Sometimes it seems like they have literally thrown out the book,” said Joshua Sharfstein, a former top FDA official and Johns Hopkins University professor who is using the CDC manual to teach a crisis communication class. “We’re studying what to do — and at times seeing what not to do — on the same day.” Two weeks ago, Trump said the country would soon have zero cases. This week, there were more than 2,200 and 49 deaths. When asked at a news conference Friday why he disbanded the White House’s pandemic office, Trump denied doing so, saying, “I didn’t do it … I don’t know anything about it.” When asked if he bore any responsibility for disastrous delays in testing, Trump said no, blaming instead “circumstances” and “regulations” created by others. When asked if Americans should believe Trump or his top health official, Anthony S. Fauci — whom Trump has contradicted repeatedly — Trump sidestepped the question. ... “For those of us in this field, this is profoundly and deeply distressing,” said Matthew Seeger, a risk communication expert at Wayne State University who developed the CDC guidebook alongside many top doctors, public health researchers, scientists, consultants and behavioral psychologists. The CDC manual devotes an entire chapter to “choosing the right spokesperson,” someone who gives the government and its message “a human form.” But the government’s leading health experts have had to repeatedly cede the microphone to politicians — with the nation’s top health officials repeatedly canceling news conferences to make room for Vice President Pence or Trump or to avoid upstaging other White House announcements. Last week, instead of holding CDC’s news conference focused on coronavirus, Trump toured the CDC in front of cameras, telling the public, “Anybody right now and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. And the tests are beautiful.” This Friday, CDC’s press call was canceled again so that Trump could hold his Rose Garden news conference. In recent days, rather than having one voice, the spokesperson role has ping ponged among Pence, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar, Fauci and Trump. Trump in particular checks off many of attributes the manual specifically warns against. The spokesperson must be “familiar with the subject matter” and have the “ability to talk about it clearly and with confidence.” Since taking office, Trump has ousted scientists, muzzled researchers and suppressed basic information on climate change. Public health officials worry that his erosion ofpublic trust of science, coupled with the ongoing conflicting messaging between experts and politicians, is making it unclear whom the public should listen to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PeterMP Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 17 hours ago, tshile said: @bcl05 @bearrock @No Excuses @PeterMP any if you know of places sharing information from physicians in the bigger areas about what’s going on and specifically decisions they had to make? Would you pm any you can share? been looking into a few places but keep stumbling into intranets where I need logins to access documents Trying to find resources. The cdc is dropping the ball big time. Sorry, other than be a patient, I don't do anything with actual doctors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, visionary said: Companies like McDonalds and Dunkin Donuts are largely run by franchise owners with likely less than 500 employees aren't they? No doubt some of them are. Think I read that 90% of McD are franchises. DD might be 100%. OTOH, I'm pretty sure that WalMart, as an example, isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanboyOf91 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 45: Looks like you're on your own, dudes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Larry Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) Really don't get the GOP's motives in gutting the coronavirus relief bill. Surely they have to know that if this thing blows up (and it's guaranteed to blow up, the question is whether we get 10,000 dead, or 100,000, or more), then their Party is going to be hurt worse than the public is. And no, there isn't a single R on Capital Hill who gives a **** about the deficit. I'm seeing Gen Jack D Ripper: Mr. President, we are now facing two alternatives: One where we've got 20 million dead, and one where we've got 200 million dead. Edited March 14, 2020 by Larry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearrock Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Should we consider the Italy/France measure right now? The main problem is the lack of testing. We're flying blind (or severely impaired visibility). We don't want to find out two weeks from now armed with large testing capability that the situation has been blowing up under our noses.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 12th Commandment Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 1 hour ago, PCS said: -MGM News- Those lousy ****stains. I was there a month and a half ago and it was a sty. A sty with $9 beers. Stay away from that place regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanboyOf91 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 https://www.immunology.org/news/bsi-response-herd-immunity-and-sars-cov-2 Quote “SARS-CoV-2 is a novel virus in humans and there is still much that we need to learn about how it affects the human immune system. Because it is so new, we do not yet know how long any protection generated through infection will last. Some other viruses in the Coronavirus family, such as those that cause common colds, tend to induce immunity that is relatively short lived, at around three months. However, these viruses have co-evolved with the human immune system over thousands of years meaning they may well have developed methods to manipulate our immune responses. With the novel SARS-CoV-2, the situation may be very different but we urgently need more research looking at the immune responses of people who have recovered from infection to be sure.” If you see somebody saying that immunity might only last 3 months, this is probably where they got it from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 LOL ... at the Loudoun County briefing today they made a point of stating that they will NOT be passing a mic around for questions. "Speak your question and we will repeat it into the mic." They announced social distancing for customer facing employees, and teleworking for non-essential personnel. They purchased 15000 of the 16000 Chromebooks available in the country to enable low income students to learn remotely. Libraries will provide internet access but all activities/programs cancelled. https://www.loudoun.gov/CivicAlerts.aspx?AID=5577 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Thanks coach!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 11 minutes ago, visionary said: Jesus..... Doesnt France have a huge problem with youth smoking? Would that have something to do with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 45 minutes ago, FanboyOf91 said: As always in disaster situations, the GOP is a ****show. eh, didn’t this pass the democratically controlled house? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) Edited March 14, 2020 by visionary 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FanboyOf91 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: eh, didn’t this pass the democratically controlled house? If you want a "Pelosi sucks for caving to the GOP lunatics", sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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