NYSkins21 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Skinsinparadise said: Me definitely among that crowd, I almost had a heart attack when we tied the score against the Giants and went to over time. Rooting against my Skins with a bunch of Giants fans that I'm usually at war with was not easy. But it looks like it very well might be worth it! 10 hours ago, redskinss said: These guys have to be politicians about this. 5 is the exact answer you'd expect. Anything less and its, he doesn't want to play for the Redskins. Anything more and its he only wants to play for his hometown. Could be. But I think its more... Either the Bengals will select him or the Skins will select him. 50/50. 50%. Hes stating the obvious. Edited April 20, 2020 by NYSkins21 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bifflog Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 Well, I mean... imagine who we might be able to pick if we lose out next season? (Don't kill me I'm just playin' 😟) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 1 hour ago, NYSkins21 said: Rooting against my Skins with a bunch of Giants fans that I'm usually at war with was not easy. But it looks like it very well might be worth it! It's never easy to not really want the Skins to win, so yeah it was tough. But for me it was worth it to not only get Chase Young, but also to hear a co-worker friend of mine who is a huge Giants fan cursing up a storm the next day because he knew winning that pointless game meant they wouldn't get Young and we likely would. He'd been harping for a couple weeks about how the Giants were going to get CY and he'd terrorize the the Skins for the next 10+ years. I came in that Monday and was like: 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anselmheifer Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Bifflog said: Well, I mean... imagine who we might be able to pick if we lose out next season? (Don't kill me I'm just playin' 😟) Trevor Lawrence or Penei Sewell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 This is the first truly hopeless season I've had the pleasure of enjoying as a fan and I really did enjoy it. It was liberating. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYSkins21 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: This is the first truly hopeless season I've had the pleasure of enjoying as a fan and I really did enjoy it. It was liberating. Without a doubt! Because there was so much to win by losing. A long overdue organizational restructure and culture change starting with #firebruceallen. And of course having Chase Young at our fingertips. A true sense of restarting and resurrection. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Wolffe Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 (edited) If losing gives us Chase Young in addition to Bruce Allen fired. Well.. that combination is the highlight of my Redskins Fandom to date. Edited April 21, 2020 by SkinsFootball 5 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy Yoda Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 (edited) He isn't the main feature in these two videos, but this is additional footage of Chase being a disruptor that you may not have seen before. There are countless ill-advised early throws because of Chase's pressure, and many more times where he is inches away from a sack. At the 12:00 mark onwards, watch Chase Young and the impact he had against Clemson. At the 15:05 mark he was literally bear-hugged around the legs and nearly tackled to the ground against Clemson, no call. Edited April 21, 2020 by Burgundy Yoda 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakedtater1 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 10 hours ago, mistertim said: It's never easy to not really want the Skins to win, so yeah it was tough. But for me it was worth it to not only get Chase Young, but also to hear a co-worker friend of mine who is a huge Giants fan cursing up a storm the next day because he knew winning that pointless game meant they wouldn't get Young and we likely would. He'd been harping for a couple weeks about how the Giants were going to get CY and he'd terrorize the the Skins for the next 10+ years. I came in that Monday and was like: I imagine you've seen me pound the table about never ever hoping the skins lose..ever no matter for what reason I never root for them to lose...welllll now that it's in the past.. Especially the last couple weeks of last year, I couldn't have asked for a better way for the skins to lose. God it was perfect..in the game the whole time, scoring, having fun..than to lose in the last minute to secure that #2 spot was great. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakedtater1 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 12 hours ago, NYSkins21 said: Rooting against my Skins with a bunch of Giants fans that I'm usually at war with was not easy. But it looks like it very well might be worth it! Could be. But I think its more... Either the Bengals will select him or the Skins will select him. 50/50. 50%. Hes stating the obvious. Haha I have to imagine that looked awkward as **** them rooting for the skins you for the giants lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaseCommander Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 (edited) Edited April 21, 2020 by jamellm78 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crabbypatty Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 I'm extra high on Young because of what we have on the DL already. Adding him to a rotation of Sweat, Ion, Payne, Allen, Kerrigan, Settle & Anderson should be a devastating group when taken as a whole. If we had a DL of say, Ziggy Hood, Jason Hatcher, Chris Baker and Kedrick Goldston, I'd be in the trade down camp.. because young isn't going to turn subpar talent guys into all pros. But he CAN help turn super talented guys like Sweat, Ion, Allen and Payne into pro bowlers, because they've got a ton of talent already. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 hour ago, jamellm78 said: Nothing really surprising there. Rivera said himself that he'd listen to offers but then said that he doubted a team would be willing to give up what they'd probably be asking for. It's getting really close to draft day so the "testing the waters" calls will start coming in. I doubt it will go anywhere though. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCliche21 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 49 minutes ago, mistertim said: Nothing really surprising there. Rivera said himself that he'd listen to offers but then said that he doubted a team would be willing to give up what they'd probably be asking for. It's getting really close to draft day so the "testing the waters" calls will start coming in. I doubt it will go anywhere though. In a recent interview, Rivera said (paraphrasing poorly) that he's listening to offers, but no matter what he has to get an impact guy or else we just have a bunch of picks. I'm a big fan of this approach. I'll take a HOFer (not crowning Young as such, just a hyperbolic hypothetical) over a couple of dice rolls for starters. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 15 hours ago, mistertim said: It's never easy to not really want the Skins to win, so yeah it was tough. But for me it was worth it to not only get Chase Young, but also to hear a co-worker friend of mine who is a huge Giants fan cursing up a storm the next day because he knew winning that pointless game meant they wouldn't get Young and we likely would. He'd been harping for a couple weeks about how the Giants were going to get CY and he'd terrorize the the Skins for the next 10+ years. I came in that Monday and was like: Landon Collins did a Twitter AMA, and Giants fans started jumping in and trolling him about getting beat by a back-up TE for the winning TD...they were actually happy about that win... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 44 minutes ago, NewCliche21 said: In a recent interview, Rivera said (paraphrasing poorly) that he's listening to offers, but no matter what he has to get an impact guy or else we just have a bunch of picks. I'm a big fan of this approach. I'll take a HOFer (not crowning Young as such, just a hyperbolic hypothetical) over a couple of dice rolls for starters. Yeah I liked that as well. If you can trade back and get a guy you have graded as having just as much of an impact as the guy you were going to take at your original position then go for it (also taking positional value into account I'm assuming). If not, you don't take it. In a normal situation I'd say that would make us ripe for trading down with guys like Simmons and Okudah likely to be there at 5 (if it's Miami who wanted to trade up), but having Chase Young on the board changes that whole equation IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 (edited) Edited April 21, 2020 by Skinsinparadise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Still not sure why some people think our pass rush is a current strength. We ranked 25th in pass rush win rate last year. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashburn Dave Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Only two more days and then we can put all this loser talk behind us. I still have a bad taste in my mouth from last years rooting for losses. Hopefully we won't have to live this for a while with RR/JDR and Young: 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 (edited) 17 hours ago, NYSkins21 said: Rooting against my Skins with a bunch of Giants fans that I'm usually at war with was not easy. But it looks like it very well might be worth it! It's funny you mention that. My in-laws (and wife) are mostly Giants fans. My wife wouldn't root for Giants losses. I was so upset when the Giants CB had that pass interference at the end of the game to help the Redskins tie it. When Daniel Jones completed the pass to win the game in OT, I shouted for joy and my wife looked at me like I was crazy. She's a casual football fan at best. But I've been playing a lot of sports shows in the morning while she's in front of the TV and sees Chase Young, Chase Young, Chase Young....now she gets why I was so hyped back then for the losses. Edited April 21, 2020 by Skinsinparadise 4 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mistertim Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 2 hours ago, HTTRDynasty said: Still not sure why some people think our pass rush is a current strength. We ranked 25th in pass rush win rate last year. I think usually they're pointing to our number of sacks in 2019; we were top 10 in number of sacks. But I think that loses sight of other numbers such as being 25th in win rate (as you noted), and being literally dead last in opponent 3rd down conversion percentage. To me those two numbers are more important than just looking at sack totals in a vacuum. The 3rd down issue was IMO both scheme related as well as personnel. We have quality guys, but we don't have any big time finishers who are at their best in the most critical moments. That's one of the things I noticed when watching Chase Young's tape. Yes, he has an elite get-off, elite balance and lateral agility, outstanding technique and handwork, etc. But one of the biggest things to me is that the dude is a finisher. He gets to the QB, he bends the edge consistently, he gets lots of strip sacks. He also shows up in the big moments when a play is needed the most (ie 3rd downs). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StepyagameuP Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 WHAT IF.... The Giants started up all the QB controversy at #4 so that teams would start intentionally calling us to move up for a QB at #2? ALL IN AN EFFORT.. For us not to land Chase Young? Has that angle been thought through? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OVCChairman Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 1 minute ago, StepyagameuP said: WHAT IF.... The Giants started up all the QB controversy at #4 so that teams would start intentionally calling us to move up for a QB at #2? ALL IN AN EFFORT.. For us not to land Chase Young? Has that angle been thought through? It crossed my mind. Same reason why Detroit is claiming they are getting calls about no. 3. If someone moves to 2 to take Tua, Young falls into their laps and they get the best player in the draft at no. 3 overall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 Ultimately is it our decision whether we take Young at #2 or not. Forget all the peripheral noise. If he’s that really that good and the offer doesn’t match, we won’t trade out. If the offer is too good to turn down, then you take it and that has to be viewed as a win as well. Only fail here is a ‘poor value’ trade back. And that’s all on RR and Smith. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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