Plus1Hdcp_ Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Chase fan here but I do agree with the trade. We have for what seems like forever been holding on to players too long. At some point we have to run the team as a business, and this seems to be a starting point. Gotta keep getting picks and younger players. I hope Chase stays healthy and performs well in SF. Same goes for Sweat. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 (edited) 38 minutes ago, KDawg said: Here's the thing... I don't know if it is admitting that. I think it's admitting that we weren't probably going to re-sign either of them... But, I know some folks think I'm crazy... I think our defensive end play is going to improve and you're going to see a noticeable difference in the defense minus Sweat and Young. Moreso Young than Sweat, as Sweat had improved his contain/run discipline a good portion (though he still did it a few times this year). Toohill, JSW and the rookies should be more than okay as schematic players... and Toohill is actually a pretty decent pass rusher. We also can't just rely on the front four anymore. We started to see more blitzing last week. I would hope that trend continues. Allowing Jamin Davis to pass rush is a major win for us, too. We'll see what happens, but I honestly think we have potential to be better now... as crazy as it sounds. (For the record, I think 99 is going to do well in SF and Sweat will bring some semblance of a pass rush to Chicago) I may not be remembering correctly but didn’t an element of our run in 2021 coincide with both Sweat and Young being out? I am really excited to see what Toohill can do as the lead EDGE rest of year. I think he may be a long term starter given that he can drop into coverage and play the run well in addition to providing just enough pass rush juice Edited November 1, 2023 by method man 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShredder Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 YES!! DON'T LET THE DOOR HIT YOU IN THE ARSE!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfrankie Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Riggo#44 said: Reminds me of another “generational” talent that the franchise was unable to reign in. Edited November 1, 2023 by kfrankie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 39 minutes ago, method man said: I may not be remembering correctly but didn’t an element of our run in 2021 coincide with both Sweat and Young being out? Yup. When Toohill and JSW were in during the 2021 season the defense played better. Sweat and Young were both hurt in games during the four game winning streak mid season. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c slag Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Good luck Chase Congratulations on winning your R.O.Y. Award when you were here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShredder Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Plus1Hdcp_ said: Chase fan here but I do agree with the trade. We have for what seems like forever been holding on to players too long. At some point we have to run the team as a business, and this seems to be a starting point. Gotta keep getting picks and younger players. I hope Chase stays healthy and performs well in SF. Same goes for Sweat. They have the same agent.... They were going to get squeezed like a Zit..!! Both will attempt to get the franchise tag to be overpaid. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Just now, TheShredder said: They have the same agent.... They were going to get squeezed like a Zit..!! Both will attempt to get the franchise tag to be overpaid. SF is not giving Chase the franchise tag no matter what. They can't afford it. The comp they gave up also shows what they generally think about giving him a long term deal. Chase is going to have a rude awakening in FA 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShredder Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 minute ago, method man said: SF is not giving Chase the franchise tag no matter what. They can't afford it. The comp they gave up also shows what they generally think about giving him a long term deal. Chase is going to have a rude awakening in FA I agree, that's why I said 'attempt'. Bears will overpay Sweat and Young will get to free agency imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumplestilskin Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Its all Dans fault. This is the fallout from his Haskins infatuation. Otherwise we would have had Herbert or Tua. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, rumplestilskin said: Its all Dans fault. This is the fallout from his Haskins infatuation. Otherwise we would have had Herbert or Tua. and wasted their talent, too. Get this mother****er to the ATN and lets move on. We'll probably get to watch another HoF career from afar, but change is finally here. This kinda of waste won't happen again. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShredder Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, rumplestilskin said: Its all Dans fault. This is the fallout from his Haskins infatuation. Otherwise we would have had Herbert or Tua. IDK bro, Herbert costs 55M per year and Howell's stats are comparable at a fractional cost. Tua is having a great year but not sure how much of that is Hill and Mike McDaniel's. If Tua goes somewhere else, does he move the needle? IDK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 minute ago, TheShredder said: IDK bro, Herbert costs 55M per year and Howell's stats are comparable at a fractional cost. Tua is having a great year but not sure how much of that is Hill and Mike McDaniel's. If Tua goes somewhere else, does he move the needle? IDK Lets not go crazy. Herbert is a better QB than Howell. The volume stats aren't a fair comp because Herbert has already had his bye. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrepDC Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Somehow Washington believes devaluing their own good players and creating new holes on the roster is rebuilding. Even the Madden video game would have gotten better value for their players. Trading away premiere pieces without a GM in place tells me all I need to know about Harris. Washington is still the chump of the NFL. Fans saying Washington invested too much in the DL while the top 2 teams in the NFC continue investing in their DL in our faces is peak cluelessness. Why fix weaknesses when you can "fix" strengths? If you don't win games, blame the strength of your team for not compensating. Creating more weaknesses on your roster is rebuilding! Even though that's exactly how the Washington OL fell apart, they should do it again with the DL! Do I have it right? Washington has zero idea how to rebuild correctly and this is just another embarrassing example. Worst organization in football. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 16 minutes ago, rumplestilskin said: Its all Dans fault. This is the fallout from his Haskins infatuation. Otherwise we would have had Herbert or Tua. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capsman Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 24 minutes ago, IrepDC said: Somehow Washington believes devaluing their own good players and creating new holes on the roster is rebuilding. Even the Madden video game would have gotten better value for their players. Trading away premiere pieces without a GM in place tells me all I need to know about Harris. Washington is still the chump of the NFL. Fans saying Washington invested too much in the DL while the top 2 teams in the NFC continue investing in their DL in our faces is peak cluelessness. Why fix weaknesses when you can "fix" strengths? If you don't win games, blame the strength of your team for not compensating. Creating more weaknesses on your roster is rebuilding! Even though that's exactly how the Washington OL fell apart, they should do it again with the DL! Do I have it right? Washington has zero idea how to rebuild correctly and this is just another embarrassing example. Worst organization in football. Ah, this take is super flawed. The d-line is hardly a strength, especially at d-end. When the talent at, say, LB and o-line is weak enough that correcting it brings for more than the drop off between starting and backup d-ends, you do it. Especially when these guys will eat up oodles of salary cap space. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdcskins Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 I called this guy a bust like 18 months ago and people got angry (or maybe just one guy). Can't find the post but I recall it vividly with vexation. 🙄 Huge bust. Goodbye. Worthless player. No ill will but.....sort of. And watch him turn his career around and come back to crush us. Because.....you know....that's what the Commanders do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Two weeks ago he tried talking to the team and players laughed at him. Chase was an asshole in the locker room. I bet we start winning games. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted November 1, 2023 Author Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 hour ago, rumplestilskin said: It’s all Dans fault. This is the fallout from his Haskins infatuation. Otherwise we would have had Herbert or Tua. And ruined them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 59 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: This kinda of waste won't happen again. Do you think the guy who owns the 76ers isn't going to waste any more high draft picks? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdcskins Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 On 2/1/2022 at 4:43 AM, abdcskins said: I think he will be complete flop. I'm sorry I just do. Hope I'm wrong. I was not wrong. Where are you MrJL? I am angry and out for blood! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheItalianStallion Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Disappointed that this is how it turned out after 2020, but I'm inclined to agree with these trades. Our DTs are better than our DEs, and the backups have looked pretty good when they've played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CjSuAvE22 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 2 hours ago, IrepDC said: Trading away premiere pieces without a GM in place tells me all I need to know about Harris. lol, what was suppose to happen Harris would get a gm before the year was over just to trade these two? We got value for two players who would have been gone in January…then the new gm will pick two new players with the new draft picks 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zCommander Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 On 10/11/2021 at 5:25 PM, zCommander said: Chase is a bust. There I said it! Two years ago I saw the writing on the wall that many didn't see it coming or wanted to believe. Well at least San Fran give us a 3rd for him so there is that... a nice parting comp pick. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrell Green Fan Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 12 hours ago, IrepDC said: Somehow Washington believes devaluing their own good players and creating new holes on the roster is rebuilding. Even the Madden video game would have gotten better value for their players. Trading away premiere pieces without a GM in place tells me all I need to know about Harris. Washington is still the chump of the NFL. Fans saying Washington invested too much in the DL while the top 2 teams in the NFC continue investing in their DL in our faces is peak cluelessness. Why fix weaknesses when you can "fix" strengths? If you don't win games, blame the strength of your team for not compensating. Creating more weaknesses on your roster is rebuilding! Even though that's exactly how the Washington OL fell apart, they should do it again with the DL! Do I have it right? Washington has zero idea how to rebuild correctly and this is just another embarrassing example. Worst organization in football. These 2 were not "premium pieces", they were pretty good and nothing more. The only time to trade them was now, if they waited until after the season they were not under contract. Montez never had more than 9 sacks in a season and averaged 7.25. Chase has 14 sacks in 34 games. These are not premium players, they are actually very replaceable with far cheaper players, but they will be paid like they are premium players. We should be thankful that our team will not be the one to overpay and have too much invested in a DL that has never been great. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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