bakedtater1 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Let the debate begin..Have we seen enough to call Dwayne Haskins a bust in the NFL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Did this really have to be a thread when the same discussion is pretty much being had in the Haskins thread already? But to answer the question....idk. I’m on the fence. I’d like to give him more time. But at the same time, i dont want to wait another two or 3 seasons and waste seasons that could be spent watching an even better QB from this upcoming draft lead us to the playoffs. I hate losing seasons. It’s just....not fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpig Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 It's pretty close for me but not sealed. Preseason was very meh and bland. A couple of nice throws but just looked overall bad. His two starts haven't been anything special. Some garbage time stats. I can't tell until he plays the rest of the season. Maybe he starts lighting it up more and improving rapidly which would be best case since they could get Chase Young or trade back and build around him. If he struggles and just looks bad then you have to consider a Tua, Herbert, or Burrow obviously. I lean to wanting Tua since if you get a Russell Wilson type that can make a HUGE difference. In Haskins Defense: Our WR core is not very good outside of Terry. Harmon will need the year to develop. TE position is lacking with the injuries and Thompson has been hurt. I'm actually glad to see him playing now and do hope he just really starts balling but if not then we can grab another one. FO will be an issue building around anyone so Bruce will need to go. Maybe 1-15 seals that. TL;DR: I can't be 100% certain yet. I will be by years end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 No sir, I'd like more please... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 He was drafted by Dan Snyder. What else needs to be said? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoutyBearHead Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 I think it's too soon to tell, he was only really productive in garbage time today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redd Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Let him play it out. Not like we got anyone else who can qb better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veteranskinsfan Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Our offensive line is weak and we only have one good wide receiver so his supporting cast stinks right now. But he is also making plenty of mistakes on his own. The problem is when you are drafted in the first round you are expected to contribute faster than lower round picks. Expectations are high. Lets see if he can improve in the off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 Hell no. Not even close to enough. I have seen progress from week to week. We all knew he was raw. Lets see if we continue to see progress over the next 7 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 16 minutes ago, Mr. Sinister said: No sir, I'd like more please... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsUltima Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 What QB in this draft is better? Tua is paper thin and injury prone, Burrow looks great but still a one year wonder just like Haskins. Herbert is interesting but eh, I doubt he can turn this franchise around. We are really fooling ourselves if we think drafting a new QB is gonna save us. Give the kid some time, let's see what he can do and go from there. 2 starts isn't enough to consider him a bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 What's the alternative? Haven't we seen enough from Keenum and McCoy? Just let him play out the season. Best case scenario he improves and we're more comfortable letting him start in year 2. Worst case he stinks and we tank and get Burrow or Tua and start over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 To answer the OP, anyone that is remotely suggesting that, 2 starts in, is living outside the realms of reality with little to no patience in them. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 1 minute ago, clskinsfan said: Hell no. Not even close to enough. I have seen progress from week to week. We all knew he was raw. Lets see if we continue to see progress over the next 7 weeks. This is where I'm at as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carex Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 no. it's not. Unless something happens to prevent him from playing in the 2020 season it is impossible for him to be a bust during or after the 2019 season God, the so called fans of this team. You're begging for the team to finish 1-15 practically but you're still judging the players who you want to fail You all disgust me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakedtater1 Posted November 17, 2019 Author Share Posted November 17, 2019 22 minutes ago, Cooleyfan1993 said: Did this really have to be a thread when the same discussion is pretty much being had in the Haskins thread already? But to answer the question....idk. I’m on the fence. I’d like to give him more time. But at the same time, i dont want to wait another two or 3 seasons and waste seasons that could be spent watching an even better QB from this upcoming draft lead us to the playoffs. I hate losing seasons. It’s just....not fun. Wouldn't expect less from ya champ..ya know I kid..figured that was just a welcoming him to the Redskins thread...I get where ya come from though lol...mods know what to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 What the hell happened to "I want to see Haskins progress as the season goes on"?...When did it turn into "I want to be convinced after two starts"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 It's not like Gregg was putting up a true garbage time defense either. He was still bringing the pressure late. I think Dwayne figured some things out late and KOC was finally able to call his sort of game (something tells me it is not KOC who is leading the charge to run the ball every first down). Lets hope it comes down from the top that Bill leave KOC alone when it comes to playcalling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartyPosse Posted November 17, 2019 Share Posted November 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Califan007 said: What the hell happened to "I want to see Haskins progress as the season goes on"?...When did it turn into "I want to be convinced after two starts"? I’m sorry, I must have you confused with another Califan007 who’s been on these boards a while. I didn’t know you were new and thus didn’t know how absurd it is around here. It’s also funny that we were all ok with Dwayne sitting for the year to get used to the speed of the game and because they rushed him in and he clearly doesn’t look ready then he’s a complete bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakedtater1 Posted November 17, 2019 Author Share Posted November 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, carex said: no. it's not. Unless something happens to prevent him from playing in the 2020 season it is impossible for him to be a bust during or after the 2019 season God, the so called fans of this team. You're begging for the team to finish 1-15 practically but you're still judging the players who you want to fail You all disgust me I hope this isnt directed to me?...I just started this for a place to debate the situation..****, if you ask me..I was to drunk and busy playing fetch with the dog..in side the house lol.. i do know the two opportunities in the redzone off of turnovers to walk away with 3 points sucked...the folks and I talked about Thanksgiving drank beer and watched the game..in that order lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 I don't know if he's a bust, I don't know enough about him to make that call but look at what the Cardinals did this year and it probably saved their franchise. Let's not tie ourselves to a guy just because we made a bad decision if that ends up being the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakedtater1 Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share Posted November 18, 2019 I guess I'm way off seeing QBs come In to the league Instantly starting and having success...immediately...again..please dont label me as a fan saying haskins needs time..or that hes a bust...I'm neutral...only thing I say about it is is..with him only having one year under his belt In college i believe it was a stretch for the skins to pick him where they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 2 5 minutes ago, bakedtater1 said: ...only thing I say about it is is..with him only having one year under his belt In college i believe it was a stretch for the skins to pick him where they did. Somebody else probably would have taken him in that range mate. You're drafting off the traits with so little tape to go on. Which were sky high in that class. The problem is Snyder wanting him and Snyder, naturally, being the axis of all Evil to any Redskin fan. Which clouds the pick in many peoples minds. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hail2skins Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Haskins does look raw but, as others have said, its tough to judge him when he's surrounded with complete garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs828791 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 kid doesnt pass the eye test, one of the worst rookie qb's I have seen in a long time. Cant read the defenses, after 9 months doesnt know the playbook, mechanics all round terrible, accuracy garbage. Having said that give him the rest of the season so even the blind here now know we need to move on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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