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      We’re still doing this?  Absolutely!  Despite all the compelling reasons to just let everyone go home and enjoy and extended offseason, this is not an option.  The games must be played, and therefore we the long-suffering fans will feel compelled to watch.  Even games no reasonable football fan would choose to watch like, for example, today’s Redskins Jets game.   

      Today’s convergence of sadness features the 30th ranked scoring offense (Jets 14.4 ppg) versus the 32nd (Redskins 12.0 ppg).  The first team to 15 wins!  With no playoff aspirations the compelling story lines for this game are largely limited to watching young players (hopefully) develop.  Dwayne Haskins gets his first home start and Derrius Guice is back from injury.   
       
      My, reasonable, goals for today’s game:  
      1- Score a touchdown 
      2- Score more than 17 points.   
      3- Haskins throws for 200 yards or more with no interceptions  
      4- Guice runs the ball at least 10 times and finishes at 3.5 yards per carry and healthy.  
       
      Hoping for a win at this point feels like setting myself up for disappointment, so I’m happy to settle for an entertaining loss.  
       
      Special thanks to @pez for some excellent Guinness beef stew.  If you absolutely have to stand in a frozen parking lot at 9am, the best place to do it is at the Extremeskins Tailgate with Pez and @Huly.  Great fans, great people. 
       
      The Redskins have declared for the following players as inactive: 
      Paul Richardson  
      Colt McCoy 
      Deshazor Everett 
      Chris Thompson  
      Ross Pierschbacher 
      Vernon Davis  
      Tim Settle  
       
      The Jets declared the following players as inactive  
      Nate Hairston  
      Darryl Roberts  
      Paul Worrilow 
      Matthias Farley  
      CJ Mosley  
      Jordan Willis  
      Leo Koloamatangi 
       
      1st Quarter - Redskins 0 - 6 Jets
      If you wanted to sit in the cold and watch a football game with some Jets fans at FedEx, but were worried that there were not enough seats available, I have good news.  There’s plenty of space available, so come on down and prove you’re a real fan by sitting though this in person.
       
      Jets dominated the 1st quarter even though they only scored 6 points.  The reason being that Washington managed only 13 yards of offense and a single first down.  
       
      Question: Is it still a check down pass if the QB never looks at anyone else?
       
      2nd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      The Jets have achieved an insurmountable 13 point lead early in the 2nd quarter.  All hope is lost.

      Is there a more perfect example of the Redskins offense than their first scoring drive in the 2nd quarter?  Interception gives the Redskins the ball on the Jets 16 yard line.  They proceed to march 10 yards backwards before kicking a field goal from the Jets 26.  It's perfect.  Two or three more field goals we can call it a day. 

      The Jets score again and if feels like they are are just piling on at this point.  Three touchdowns in the first half for them, just three points for the redskins.  Our streak of no touchdowns has now extended to 15 quarters. 
       
      3rd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      There is a spider slowly descending from the ceiling in the press box and it's the most interesting thing that's happened during the third quarter of this game. 
       
      I have decided to allow the spider to live, provided it does not touch me.  I'm off to get some more caffeine. 

      4th Quarter - Redskins 17 - 34 Jets
      The first wave of Redskins fans, the few that are here, started streaming towards the exits after that 4th Jets touchdown.  As if the Jets didn't have this game wrapped up in the 2nd quarter. 
       
      Jet have now more than doubled their average points per game and have matched their season high of 34 points (and they missed two field goals in this game). 
       
      TOUCHDOWN REDSKINS!  THE DROUGHT IT OVER!  Guice took a short pass from Haskins  all the way to the house.  2 point conversion is successful on a pass from Haskins to Quinn. 
       
      The Redskins score another touchdown!  This feels like an embarrassment of riches, even if we are still certain to lose this game. 
       
      End of Game.
       
      Let's review those reasonable goals I mentioned earlier:
       
      1- Success.
      2- Close enough, I'm counting it
      3- Haskins did throw for over 200, but unfortunately did have an interception. 
      4- Guice was not given the opportunity to run the ball ten times today.  He did however score on a 45 yard TD pass and finish the game healthy.  I'll take it.
       
      Even though the Redskins lost, it was good to see the offense show some faint signs of life and end the streak of games without a TD.  The team looked competitive for much of the second half, and perhaps they could have made this a fun game if they carried that same energy throughout.  It was good to see Guice and Mclaurin show out today.  I think both of them have a future with this team that I look forward to seeing. 

       
       

       
       
       
       
       
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1 hour ago, JSSkinz said:

I wish more people would share their thoughts on the film they watch, I could care less if you're an expert or not. 


I am no scout but I do like how quickly the ball comes out of his hands showing the ability to hit receivers in tight windows and displaying nice touch as well.  Also, he is not afraid of throwing the ball downfield and giving his receivers a chance to make plays.  I really enjoyed seeing the level of passion he plays with.

 

 

 

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I also think too many experts allow nfl-readiness to influence their draft standing. In other words, how ready a player is to start affects where they should get drafted. And that's true to an extent i'm sure for some teams (the draft boards of contending teams prioritize who can help immediately vs rebuilding teams can perceive a player's value based on their long term potential). I'm sure some teams who had QBs already in house don't see Dwayne as a first round talent because while the intangibles are there, the mental readiness isn't. 

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2 hours ago, Califan007 said:

 

I'm not thinking the coaches and players look at the season the same way fans do. So they're not telling themselves and each other "The season is over so it no longer matters if we start the best 22 players." They are most likely only concentrating on the next game, as cliche as that sounds, and not the entirety of the season. Back in 2012 I remember Shanahan getting blasted in the press for saying, after going 3-6, something like it was time to see who wanted to still be on the team next year. It sounded like he was saying the season was over and he was gonna spend the rest of the year evaluating who to keep and who to let go once the season was officially over...like treating it as a 7-game preseason or something. I wasn't visiting ES during that season but it wouldn't surprise me if fans felt the same way as the media and blasted Shanny as well.

 

I hear you, 1-5 is bad, but the season isn’t quite ‘over’ yet, even though a turnaround is highly unlikely.  Hopefully after another loss or two though, they’ll understand the need for the franchise to look to the future.  I’m sure they understand that young guys, particularly a rookie qb, need to be evaluated and even moreso if we likely wind up with a top pick.  

 

Of course, the way Keenum is playing, they might also understand rolling with Haskins even though they know there will be growing pains.  
 

 

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I've postulated that before. And to be honest, I kind of said it half joking. But it certainly has some legs.

 

And, honestly, if the team is looking to roll with Haskins it would probably be the best thing for the team from a competitive point of view.

 

Say what you want about Smith, but the guy was able to take a team who quite frankly wasn't all that good due to a myriad of injuries to a 6-3 record. Was it pretty? Hell no. But his ability to protect the ball, and with the team leaning into the run game with AP, they did enough. 

 

This strategy also allows for the Skins to use one (or hopefully more) first rounders on a defensive stud and an OT. 

 

Now, Smith is over a year out of football. But I'd be willing to bet he could come back and with a few months be at the same level as Keenum/McCoy are right now. 

 

And it is absolutely the best thing for Haskins. Not forcing him into the lineup and having patience does make sense if Smith is the quarterback.

 

The inherent, stand-out, holy **** are you for real part of this is that the team may be relying on a guy who is coming off of a potentially career ending injury to pull this strategy off. Which, despite my love for Smith, is the exact opposite of the strategy they should be using. They rely on the injury prone/injured players way too often and it bites them square in the ass.

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I still think it would be best for him to sit. Still. My only problem there is that the fans would write him off for good and I DO think that makes a difference for players these days. Look how much better the Nats are playing when they are actually enjoying it. Maybe thats not a good example of what im trying to say. 

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I honestly think they’re just planning to sit him until we get past the Vikings game. I can see the petty douchebags at the top wanting to win that game at all costs and knowing Keenum gives us the best chance to do that. 

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21 hours ago, PartyPosse said:

I just hope all those here bragging about knowing that Haskins was “a bust” because he played a half of football and didn’t look great are willing to own up when he’s starting and becomes a pretty darn good qb.

 

Knowing these boards, I seriously doubt it.

 

Ditto for those who are convinced that he's the future, who will hopefully not make excuse after excuse and think "next year will be different" a la Campbell, Griffin, Ramsey, etc.

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Just now, DJHJR86 said:

 

Ditto for those who are convinced that he's the future, who will hopefully not make excuse after excuse and think "next year will be different" a la Campbell, Griffin, Ramsey, etc.

I do believe he's "the future" and if I'm wrong I'll own it.

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People forget about how well the defense played last year when we were 6-3.  Alex was averaging what like 1 TD a game.  Its debatable we would be where we are today even if Alex was starting.  Our defense been giving up 30pts a game before the Dolphins game

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8 minutes ago, BRAVEONAWARPATH said:

I do believe he's "the future" and if I'm wrong I'll own it.


I guess I just don't get either mindset right now.  Both sides, one who think he's going to be a bust and the other who is convinced he'll be a great starter, are basing their opinions off of 13 college games, 4 preseason games, and 1 relief effort.  It's waaaay to early to tell either way.  Which is why Callahan should name him the starter for the rest of the year.  

 

20 hours ago, BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 said:

The Chiefs hit the ground running that year. If they started 0-5, Mahomes would have played.

 

The "We were 6-3 last year with Alex!" crowd always forgets to mention that the Chiefs were also 6-3 in 2017 before losing 3 in a row.  We were headed down that same path last year, except our defense couldn't bail us out like the Chiefs did the final 4 weeks of the season.

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Just now, DJHJR86 said:


I guess I just don't get either mindset right now.  Both sides, one who think he's going to be a bust and the other who is convinced he'll be a great starter, are basing their opinions off of 13 college games, 4 preseason games, and 1 relief effort.  It's waaaay to early to tell either way.  Which is why Callahan should name him the starter for the rest of the year.  

Totally agree.

 

I "think" he has the ability to be our QB of the future but yeah, he needs to play asap imo.

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2 hours ago, amm0409 said:

People forget about how well the defense played last year when we were 6-3.  Alex was averaging what like 1 TD a game.  Its debatable we would be where we are today even if Alex was starting.  Our defense been giving up 30pts a game before the Dolphins game


3 different stops (Niners, Chiefs, and Skins for 9 games) the defense and run game good to elite. Smith's intangibles and skill set is extremely complimentary to a defense and run game. It’s why his teammates and coaches love him at every stop: he literally receives no credit (teammates receive it all) and he literally can careless. It took him a while with the Niners early to reach that point mentally, but the dude is selfless and truly is all about the win column. This ISNT the norm, a QB who can careless about his stats or how he’s perceived by others.  
 

It was no surprise the Skins were among the top in time of possession, turn over differential, and effective in the run game. This is literally what he’s provided for 8 years as a starter. Will he ever be elite? Nope, but he’ll give you a chance to win in 80-90% of games. 
 

2 hours ago, DJHJR86 said:


I guess I just don't get either mindset right now.  Both sides, one who think he's going to be a bust and the other who is convinced he'll be a great starter, are basing their opinions off of 13 college games, 4 preseason games, and 1 relief effort.  It's waaaay to early to tell either way.  Which is why Callahan should name him the starter for the rest of the year.  
 

 

I’d like Haskins to get 2-4 games to chew on this off-season, but not in a rush to do so if team feels he needs more time. 
 

2 hours ago, DJHJR86 said:

 

 

The "We were 6-3 last year with Alex!" crowd always forgets to mention that the Chiefs were also 6-3 in 2017 before losing 3 in a row.  We were headed down that same path last year, except our defense couldn't bail us out like the Chiefs did the final 4 weeks of the season.

 

Complimentary football— Smith provided value while not meshing with Gruden or scheme consistently throughout the year, due to his ability to consistently possess the ball, avoid TOs at an elite level, and assist in the run game. Nothing more, nothing less.  This is not the norm, a QB providing these kind of known variables each game. 
 

 

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2 hours ago, DJHJR86 said:

 

The "We were 6-3 last year with Alex!" crowd always forgets to mention that the Chiefs were also 6-3 in 2017 before losing 3 in a row.  We were headed down that same path last year, except our defense couldn't bail us out like the Chiefs did the final 4 weeks of the season.

I hated the Alex injury for 2 reasons:

 

1. Nobody should have to go through what he went through, particularly for this franchise.  That injury was gruesome.  I heard today, he had a total of something like 17 surgeries.

 

2. Because it was an out for Bruce.  Even though the whole world barring the very small "but we were 6-3" crowd and Bruce Allen, knew this team was headed the other direction.  They certainly wouldn't have been the first team in history to start off with a decent record and then the law of averages causes them to return to the mean.  What gets lost in the game Alex went down in, is that he was freaking terrible.  An already conservative QB, learning a new system, with basically no weapons - so it wasn't all him.  But by no means did this look like a team that could contend against the upper half of the league.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said:

I hated the Alex injury for 2 reasons:

 

1. Nobody should have to go through what he went through, particularly for this franchise.  That injury was gruesome.  I heard today, he had a total of something like 17 surgeries.

 

2. Because it was an out for Bruce.  Even though the whole world barring the very small "but we were 6-3" crowd and Bruce Allen, knew this team was headed the other direction.  They certainly wouldn't have been the first team in history to start off with a decent record and then the law of averages causes them to return to the mean.  What gets lost in the game Alex went down in, is that he was freaking terrible.  An already conservative QB, learning a new system, with basically no weapons - so it wasn't all him.  But by no means did this look like a team that could contend against the upper half of the league.

 

 

I hated it because we were a good winning team with him. He was carrying a pathetic squad to 6-3. With nobody. Right now we possibly have a legit WR, TE, And RB, and our defense is better now.

 

Instead we're sitting with one accidental win and a QB who will probably have a career year with whoever his 3rd team is and no second round pick.

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3 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said:

I hated it because we were a good winning team with him. He was carrying a pathetic squad to 6-3. With nobody. Right now we possibly have a legit WR, TE, And RB, and our defense is better now.

 

Instead we're sitting with one accidental win and a QB who will probably have a career year with whoever his 3rd team is and no second round pick.

Sad is it is to say, the defense and running game were carrying last year's pathetic squad.  Alex left so much on the table as a passer, which I'm sure was a combination of his conservative nature, new system, and lack of playmakers.  But be that as it may, the reason why we got so badly boatraced by good teams was because our defense was clearly outmatched, we couldn't run the ball successfully and Alex couldn't compete as a passer.  While a healthy Alex is certainly > Case, Colt or Dwayne, I'm not sure how much difference he makes to the win column given how things have transpired this season.

 

We are kind of at a point to where we need to see Dwayne, but it could be to his detriment to trot him out there with this team around him.

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Man, I hated watching Alex Smith play for us. So many hitches to his throwing motion and no chemistry whatsoever with our guys.

 

I'm still in the camp that people are over-reacting to Haskins development or lack thereof so far and are creating artifical "must start" dead-lines due to the pressure of the Redskins current situation.

He only had one year of college ball. If he takes more than a year to get ready for the NFL, that is understandable. To my eyes he made progress with each consecutive preseason game and given the situation with the giants game and the personal hype he must have felt, I'm not too worried about the regression he showed in that game. I'm cool with giving him the reins after the bye week, when Guice should be back as well and letting him manage some games and get his feet wet.

If he shows no progression during those games, then I'll worry.

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50 minutes ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said:

Sad is it is to say, the defense and running game were carrying last year's pathetic squad.  Alex left so much on the table as a passer, which I'm sure was a combination of his conservative nature, new system, and lack of playmakers.  But be that as it may, the reason why we got so badly boatraced by good teams was because our defense was clearly outmatched, we couldn't run the ball successfully and Alex couldn't compete as a passer.  While a healthy Alex is certainly > Case, Colt or Dwayne, I'm not sure how much difference he makes to the win column given how things have transpired this season.

 

We are kind of at a point to where we need to see Dwayne, but it could be to his detriment to trot him out there with this team around him.

I'm not saying we were a fantastic team, but 6-3 is better than the 2-14 or whatever since he went down. He was boring and certainly not carrying us, but it's crazy to dismiss his impact.

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26 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said:

I'm not saying we were a fantastic team, but 6-3 is better than the 2-14 or whatever since he went down. He was boring and certainly not carrying us, but it's crazy to dismiss his impact.

 

Yea but he was JUST about to go on a losing streak. The only reason he didnt was because he got hurt (Thanks Bruce!) and now I cant prove any of this **** but ima say it anyway. 

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26 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said:

I'm not saying we were a fantastic team, but 6-3 is better than the 2-14 or whatever since he went down. He was boring and certainly not carrying us, but it's crazy to dismiss his impact.

I'm not dismissing that he's better than what we have.  That's not even an argument in my mind.  I just think with how things have transpired this season, he wouldn't have them winning 2/3 games they play in.

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Obviously, I like Haskins coming in earlier and leaving later, but does that lend credence to the 'rumors' that wasn't the case until now?  That's not something Bill had to make mention of but did.

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