KDawg Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 minute ago, JSSkinz said: I 100% believe he made his thoughts very clear to Dwayne, that's why I don't understand why he would make them public unless it was to create draft leverage. I guess using the media to stress test Dwayne's maturity could be worthy, its a bit unconventional but if it works then great. Haskins issues are maturity. Testing him in the media is a good way to start figuring out who Haskins is if you don't know him. And his comments were somewhat benign. They were enough to let the franchise know that Dwayne has to prove himself. But not damning. I'd imagine anything he said to Haskins personally was much more pointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 25 minutes ago, KDawg said: Haskins issues are maturity. Testing him in the media is a good way to start figuring out who Haskins is if you don't know him. And his comments were somewhat benign. They were enough to let the franchise know that Dwayne has to prove himself. But not damning. I'd imagine anything he said to Haskins personally was much more pointed. Yeah, and that's where we differ. I don't think a grown man (even a young one) needs to be "tested" publicly. Just tell him privately what you expect of him and then hold him accountable. Just a thought.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, BRAVEONAWARPATH said: Yeah, and that's where we differ. I don't think a grown man (even a young one) needs to be "tested" publicly. Just tell him privately what you expect of him and then the hold him accountable. Just a thought.... I do. When his issue is maturity, and he himself makes everything a public spectacle and an entire franchise's worth of jobs' are on the line? This is a guy who "liked" a tweet or an IG pic or something about Gruden being fired. You do what you need to do. You don't cowtail to what could be a "primadonna". You figure out who he is and make decisions. I don't know if Haskins is a primadonna or not. I think he's trending towards not being one after his success at the end of the season and where he's headed. But babying a professional quarterback to the extent where you refuse to comment on him is possibly damaging to an ENTIRE organization and their employees. Rivera is in charge of everyone. Not just the quarterback. I take zero risks in that scenario. Let's not pretend that Rivera threw him under the bus and ran him over. His comments were completely harmless to anyone that has any sense of poise. If people get feathers ruffled by what he said, they don't have the poise to play the quarterback position in the NFL. Because those comments were totally benign in nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 13 minutes ago, JSSkinz said: I 100% believe he made his thoughts very clear to Dwayne, that's why I don't understand why he would make them public unless it was to create draft leverage. I guess using the media to stress test Dwayne's maturity could be worthy, its a bit unconventional but if it works then great. This has nothing to do with draft leverage. Ron is honest and straightforward. He laid out what his expectations are. He will give all 53 guys a chance to compete and the ones who play the best will start. Haskins is not the presumptive QB1. He is a QB on the roster along with other options that will be acquired in the off season. The best player will get the initial chance to start. A big part of that evaluation is leadership, putting in the requisite time and being a positive example according to Ron and what his evaluation criteria is. Ron isn’t playing games. He’s laying out expectations and setting up development plans for his players. If they buy in and fully embrace it and thrive, they will get to play and will get Ron’s loyalty in return. He was crystal clear about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYSkins21 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 I think it's a smart idea for RR to be non committal to Haskins as the draft approaches. At least publicly. It increases our leverage should we look to draft day trades if CY is taken by Cinci with #1. Put it out there that QB is an option for us and it will take a haul to pry #2 from us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bifflog Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 https://www.profootballnetwork.com/tony-pauline-mailbag-which-2020-nfl-draft-prospect-do-redskins-love/ "I’m told two things about Rivera and the Redskins front office the way it is presently assembled: 1) they like Haskins; and 2) they love the Predator, Chase Young." I'm in the camp of as long as a fair opportunity is given, everything is fine; there are no sacred cows. If things play out along the lines of the above quote, it's best case scenario for us because we have our guy and we can go get the premier defensive piece. If not, everything is on the table, and at least we are in position to do something about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volsmet Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 3 hours ago, SoCalSkins said: This has nothing to do with draft leverage. Ron is honest and straightforward. Momma call him Ron, SoCal gonna call him Ron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 33 minutes ago, Bifflog said: I'm in the camp of as long as a fair opportunity is given, everything is fine; there are no sacred cows. If things play out along the lines of the above quote, it's best case scenario for us because we have our guy and we can go get the premier defensive piece. If not, everything is on the table, and at least we are in position to do something about it. And this is what it boils down to. If Haskins is what some think he is: He's going to be the quarterback. If Haskins is what others think he is: He's not. I think he's going to get the fair shake and its his opportunity to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xameil Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Bifflog said: https://www.profootballnetwork.com/tony-pauline-mailbag-which-2020-nfl-draft-prospect-do-redskins-love/ "I’m told two things about Rivera and the Redskins front office the way it is presently assembled: 1) they like Haskins; and 2) they love the Predator, Chase Young." I'm in the camp of as long as a fair opportunity is given, everything is fine; there are no sacred cows. If things play out along the lines of the above quote, it's best case scenario for us because we have our guy and we can go get the premier defensive piece. If not, everything is on the table, and at least we are in position to do something about it. How can this be when a few people whom shall remain nameless claim they know for a fact that "Ron" hates Haskins and has no intentions of starting him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 I'd say this is the type of leadership Rivera is looking for. That's asking a lot out of a 2nd year pro in a new offense though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Xameil said: How can this be when a few people whom shall remain nameless claim they know for a fact that "Ron" hates Haskins and has no intentions of starting him... Voldemort? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Xameil said: How can this be when a few people whom shall remain nameless claim they know for a fact that "Ron" hates Haskins and has no intentions of starting him... Why is Ron in quotations...? That’s his name 😂😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xameil Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, mistertim said: Voldemort? Lol it's against the rules to call out people so I wont say... Just know I'm never calling you out for fear a spider army hunts me down... 2 minutes ago, Cooleyfan1993 said: Why is Ron in quotations...? That’s his name 😂😂😂 Lol look around and you'll see why... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickyJ Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 24 minutes ago, Xameil said: Lol look around and you'll see why... Because the coach formerly known as Ron now goes by Renaldo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 2 hours ago, volsmet said: Momma call him Ron, SoCal gonna call him Ron. Is that a Coming to America reference? 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xameil Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 40 minutes ago, NickyJ said: Because the coach formerly known as Ron now goes by Renaldo? Lol no...but good guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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carex Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 4 hours ago, Cooleyfan1993 said: Why is Ron in quotations...? That’s his name 😂😂😂 I think it's due to excess familiarity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 23 minutes ago, carex said: I think it's due to excess familiarity Yeah, gonna have to put that in simpler words 😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carex Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Cooleyfan1993 said: Yeah, gonna have to put that in simpler words 😂😂 "Yeah, look Ron totally hates Haskins, he's going to get a new starter" "Why are you calling him Ron, do you know the guy? I don't hear you calling Haskins Dwayne." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 14 minutes ago, carex said: "Yeah, look Ron totally hates Haskins, he's going to get a new starter" "Why are you calling him Ron, do you know the guy? I don't hear you calling Haskins Dwayne." So basically people are more familiar with calling him Rivera and that’s why his first name was in quotations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 You guys are hilarious. Ron is easier to type than Rivera on a phone. RR requires an extra press of the uppercase shift which makes it harder to type than Ron. Same with Haskins. It’s Ha and skins super easy. Dwayne not as fast. If his name was Tim or Jim or Joe Haskins we would be calling him by his first name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volsmet Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 23 minutes ago, SoCalSkins said: You guys are hilarious. Ron is easier to type than Rivera on a phone. RR requires an extra press of the uppercase shift which makes it harder to type than Ron. Same with Haskins. It’s Ha and skins super easy. Dwayne not as fast. If his name was Tim or Jim or Joe Haskins we would be calling him by his first name. I remember telling my gf that it was too difficult to perform an extra ‘press’ while we made sweet, yet expeditious, love. Some guys just don’t want to put in the extra effort; Sure she left me, but my index finger is well rested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 28 minutes ago, SoCalSkins said: You guys are hilarious. Ron is easier to type than Rivera on a phone. RR requires an extra press of the uppercase shift which makes it harder to type than Ron. Same with Haskins. It’s Ha and skins super easy. Dwayne not as fast. If his name was Tim or Jim or Joe Haskins we would be calling him by his first name. I dont get what the big deal is about which name we use for which player or coach anyway. Some people called Gruden by his first name. Some called him by his last name. Some people can call our current coach Ron, or they can call him rivera. At the end of the day, who gives a flying ****? 🤷🏻♂️ Putting Ron in quotes when it’s his name, makes zero sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Cooleyfan1993 said: I dont get what the big deal is about which name we use for which player or coach anyway. Some people called Gruden by his first name. Some called him by his last name. Some people can call our current coach Ron, or they can call him rivera. At the end of the day, who gives a flying ****? 🤷🏻♂️ Putting Ron in quotes when it’s his name, makes zero sense. When people can’t win an argument on the merits they try to grasp at straws to win some imagined grievance they have. “You’re obviously biased because you choose to use the 3 letter first name of the coach but choose to be formal with the QB” or some a such nonsense. 😂😂😂 Can’t make this stuff up. The Redskins starting QB and his cult of groupies. Doesn’t even have to be starting. Colt Brennan was more of a cult leader than a QB at one point. I wonder how polarizing Teddy is going to be after we sign him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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