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      We’re still doing this?  Absolutely!  Despite all the compelling reasons to just let everyone go home and enjoy and extended offseason, this is not an option.  The games must be played, and therefore we the long-suffering fans will feel compelled to watch.  Even games no reasonable football fan would choose to watch like, for example, today’s Redskins Jets game.   

      Today’s convergence of sadness features the 30th ranked scoring offense (Jets 14.4 ppg) versus the 32nd (Redskins 12.0 ppg).  The first team to 15 wins!  With no playoff aspirations the compelling story lines for this game are largely limited to watching young players (hopefully) develop.  Dwayne Haskins gets his first home start and Derrius Guice is back from injury.   
       
      My, reasonable, goals for today’s game:  
      1- Score a touchdown 
      2- Score more than 17 points.   
      3- Haskins throws for 200 yards or more with no interceptions  
      4- Guice runs the ball at least 10 times and finishes at 3.5 yards per carry and healthy.  
       
      Hoping for a win at this point feels like setting myself up for disappointment, so I’m happy to settle for an entertaining loss.  
       
      Special thanks to @pez for some excellent Guinness beef stew.  If you absolutely have to stand in a frozen parking lot at 9am, the best place to do it is at the Extremeskins Tailgate with Pez and @Huly.  Great fans, great people. 
       
      The Redskins have declared for the following players as inactive: 
      Paul Richardson  
      Colt McCoy 
      Deshazor Everett 
      Chris Thompson  
      Ross Pierschbacher 
      Vernon Davis  
      Tim Settle  
       
      The Jets declared the following players as inactive  
      Nate Hairston  
      Darryl Roberts  
      Paul Worrilow 
      Matthias Farley  
      CJ Mosley  
      Jordan Willis  
      Leo Koloamatangi 
       
      1st Quarter - Redskins 0 - 6 Jets
      If you wanted to sit in the cold and watch a football game with some Jets fans at FedEx, but were worried that there were not enough seats available, I have good news.  There’s plenty of space available, so come on down and prove you’re a real fan by sitting though this in person.
       
      Jets dominated the 1st quarter even though they only scored 6 points.  The reason being that Washington managed only 13 yards of offense and a single first down.  
       
      Question: Is it still a check down pass if the QB never looks at anyone else?
       
      2nd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      The Jets have achieved an insurmountable 13 point lead early in the 2nd quarter.  All hope is lost.

      Is there a more perfect example of the Redskins offense than their first scoring drive in the 2nd quarter?  Interception gives the Redskins the ball on the Jets 16 yard line.  They proceed to march 10 yards backwards before kicking a field goal from the Jets 26.  It's perfect.  Two or three more field goals we can call it a day. 

      The Jets score again and if feels like they are are just piling on at this point.  Three touchdowns in the first half for them, just three points for the redskins.  Our streak of no touchdowns has now extended to 15 quarters. 
       
      3rd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      There is a spider slowly descending from the ceiling in the press box and it's the most interesting thing that's happened during the third quarter of this game. 
       
      I have decided to allow the spider to live, provided it does not touch me.  I'm off to get some more caffeine. 

      4th Quarter - Redskins 17 - 34 Jets
      The first wave of Redskins fans, the few that are here, started streaming towards the exits after that 4th Jets touchdown.  As if the Jets didn't have this game wrapped up in the 2nd quarter. 
       
      Jet have now more than doubled their average points per game and have matched their season high of 34 points (and they missed two field goals in this game). 
       
      TOUCHDOWN REDSKINS!  THE DROUGHT IT OVER!  Guice took a short pass from Haskins  all the way to the house.  2 point conversion is successful on a pass from Haskins to Quinn. 
       
      The Redskins score another touchdown!  This feels like an embarrassment of riches, even if we are still certain to lose this game. 
       
      End of Game.
       
      Let's review those reasonable goals I mentioned earlier:
       
      1- Success.
      2- Close enough, I'm counting it
      3- Haskins did throw for over 200, but unfortunately did have an interception. 
      4- Guice was not given the opportunity to run the ball ten times today.  He did however score on a 45 yard TD pass and finish the game healthy.  I'll take it.
       
      Even though the Redskins lost, it was good to see the offense show some faint signs of life and end the streak of games without a TD.  The team looked competitive for much of the second half, and perhaps they could have made this a fun game if they carried that same energy throughout.  It was good to see Guice and Mclaurin show out today.  I think both of them have a future with this team that I look forward to seeing. 

       
       

       
       
       
       
       
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!!!!0mgz!!!! Trent Williams finally showed up

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@Xameil I'm curious, what's your take? You're dismissing all speculation and second-hand reports, which is certainly fair to do, so are you just in the mindset of shut up, sit back and let it play out?

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9 minutes ago, HOF44 said:

Why would he hold out if he is not medically cleared to play?  He could just go on IR and collect checks.  

Well..that's a good question. Perhaps he doesnt want the public to know there is something else medically going on.

 

I honestly have no idea. I just refuse to run around yelling it's the FO, or trade TW hes a greedy ass until I get an official report which we may never get, which honestly I dont really care either way. Doesnt effect who I'm cheering for on gameday.

7 minutes ago, CTskin said:

@Xameil I'm curious, what's your take? You're dismissing all speculation and second-hand reports, which is certainly fair to do, so are you just in the mindset of shut up, sit back and let it play out?

Yup. 

 

It's not gonna affect who I cheer for on gameday.

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49 minutes ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said:

Depends on when that took place.  It became news that Trent wasn't showing up in May.  If they waited until say mid August to start offering to fire people, that merely smells like desperation vs. concern.  

 

I didn't get the impression that being more "forward" had anything to do with motivations, but rather actions.

 

If his goal--or one of his goals--was to have the med/training/whatever staff fired (and apprently it wasn't), then it was being given to him on a silver platter, so to speak. I don't think doing it out of either desperation or concern would matter at that point. I mean, if you are wanting a raise and your boss finally gives you the raise you requested, would it matter if they did it because they thought you deserved it or because they were desperate to keep you? lol...

 

But then again, who knows what Hall meant by the team being "more forward"...could mean they aren't acting (or responding) fast enough, or that the 'team' wasn't forthcoming about something or another, or he feels they aren't giving in to enough of his demands, or...

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1 minute ago, Califan007 said:

 

I didn't get the impression that being more "forward" had anything to do with motivations, but rather actions.

 

If his goal--or one of his goals--was to have the med/training/whatever staff fired (and apprently it wasn't), then it was being given to him on a silver platter, so to speak. I don't think doing it out of either desperation or concern would matter at that point. I mean, if you are wanting a raise and your boss finally gives you the raise you requested, would it matter if they did it because they thought you deserved it or because they were desperate to keep you? lol...

 

But then again, who knows what Hall meant by the team being "more forward"...could mean they aren't acting (or responding) fast enough, or that the 'team' wasn't forthcoming about something or another, or he feels they aren't giving in to enough of his demands, or...

Depends on the way you take what "forward" means, but the way I took it was that they did what they do, and just sat on this issue until it became real.

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58 minutes ago, CTskin said:

if TW does in fact hold out until week 10 just to accrue the season, then **** him. By then the seaaon may be as good as over

 

 

Lol...

 

another fan setting themselves up for the ending that was predetermined 2 entire decades ago:

 

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1 hour ago, Califan007 said:

 

But then again, who knows what Hall meant by the team being "more forward"...could mean they aren't acting (or responding) fast enough, or that the 'team' wasn't forthcoming about something or another, or he feels they aren't giving in to enough of his demands, or...

 

I bet it's up on the 980 archives now so anyone can listen and make their own judgments.

 

My interpretation of what D. Hall meant was likely that the FO isn't chasing-wooing Trent right now but waiting for Trent to relent.  He didn't flat out say it that way but that to me is a logical implication of his point.   And if the FO chased him some, Trent would be here perhaps sooner.

 

My personal take of it is:  I don't care about Trent's motivations or whether Bruce is put off by Trent's behavior or vice versa.  I just want what's holistically best for this franchise in the long run and to me that's trading him.

 

But if I were Bruce and didn't want to trade him no matter what and was just playing this out.  Then I'd play it the way Hall seemed to imply they are doing and Hoffman suggested the same point albeit much more directly and that is play out the stand off.  Because if Trent wants more money then what wouldn't be a more fun come back to that than having his behavior actually cost him money let alone make more.   But for me I can care less about winning a spitting match with Trent.  But if that's really what I wanted, I would do it the way they are perhaps doing it now.  Make him grovel to come back (versus groveling to him) and test to see how many pay checks he's willing to lose.  

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For the sake of Trent, he should hold steady and get the **** away from this team.

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1 hour ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

 

 

Oh good!!! 😀  That looks like Leesburg Executive Airport.  In the foothills, camera facing westward toward the Blueridge.  Only about 7 miles from Redskins Park in Ashburn as the crow flies. Private charters and solo pilots.  On The Ground. 

 

See you soon big man!!!

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8 minutes ago, kfrankie said:

 

Oh good!!! 😀  That looks like Leesburg Executive Airport.  In the foothills, camera facing westward toward .  Only about 7 miles from Redskins Park in Ashburn as the crow flies.  On The Ground. 

 

See you soon big man!!!

 

Impressive. I think you nailed it... You should tweet that back to Pete Hailey.

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21 minutes ago, kfrankie said:

 

Oh good!!! 😀  That looks like Leesburg Executive Airport.  In the foothills, camera facing westward toward the Blueridge.  Only about 7 miles from Redskins Park in Ashburn as the crow flies. Private charters and solo pilots.  On The Ground. 

 

See you soon big man!!!

Sheesh...stalker much?

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24 minutes ago, kfrankie said:

 

Oh good!!! 😀  That looks like Leesburg Executive Airport.  In the foothills, camera facing westward toward the Blueridge.  Only about 7 miles from Redskins Park in Ashburn as the crow flies. Private charters and solo pilots.  On The Ground. 

 

See you soon big man!!!

 

This should be fun. The people waiting to officially hear directly from Trent in person that this hold out is about medical reasons will jump all over your quick analysis. 

 

BTW, the drive from whatever airport you mentioned and Redskins Park is ~2 hours. 

 

Map from Leesburg Executive Airport, 1001 Sycolin Rd, Leesburg, VA 20175, USA to FedExField, 1600 Fedex Way, Landover, MD 20785, USA

 

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Leesburg airport to Redskins Park is like a 15 minute drive going east on Rt7 during rush hour (traffic is going the opposite direction).

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D’Angelo Hall has become a fine secretary. 

 

39 minutes ago, ntotoro said:

Leesburg airport to Redskins Park is like a 15 minute drive going east on Rt7 during rush hour.

 

 

And during rush hour 2?

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4 minutes ago, volsmet said:

And during rush hour 2?

 

Traffic's going west this time of day from Leesburg to Ashburn. Early in the day... may as well not even go LOL!

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Waiting till week 10 when he has to come back to accrue a season, and taking his 7 half-ass weeks...that's worse case scenario. He needs to be traded. 

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10 minutes ago, ConnSKINS26 said:

Waiting till week 10 when he has to come back to accrue a season, and taking his 7 half-ass weeks...that's worse case scenario. He needs to be traded. 

 

No precedent exists for a move like this, right? 

 

I wonder if there’s any language in a contract that protects the team from this. Anyone have insight? 

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3 minutes ago, wit33 said:

 

No precedent exists for a move like this, right? 

 

I wonder if there’s any language in a contract that protects the team from this. Anyone have insight? 

 

There is precedent. Vincent Jackson did this with the Chargers under AJ Smith, that's the first one that pops into my mind. 

 

There's nothing to protect the team from. It's the current CBA. 

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If this is largely about win now and hence the idea of trading a now player for picks for later is yuck to the powers that be.  Then how about this.  Work a trade that includes Fitzpatrick and a pick (I am befuddled that the Dolphins would have interest in Trent being that they are rebuilding but some reporter weeks back said they do) either directly via the Dolphins or via a three way trade.  I am a bit biased because I was a big Fitzpatrick guy in that draft. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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18 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

If this is largely about win now and hence the idea of trading a now player for picks for later is yuck to the powers that be.  Then how about this.  Work a trade that includes Fitzpatrick and a pick (I am befuddled that the Dolphins would have interest in Trent being that they are rebuilding but some reporter weeks back said they do) either directly via the Dolphins or via a three way trade.  I am a bit biased because I was a big Fitzpatrick guy in that draft. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Another Bama boy right? He'll fit right in here....

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18 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

If this is largely about win now and hence the idea of trading a now player for picks for later is yuck to the powers that be.  Then how about this.  Work a trade that includes Fitzpatrick and a pick (I am befuddled that the Dolphins would have interest in Trent being that they are rebuilding but some reporter weeks back said they do) either directly via the Dolphins or via a three way trade.  I am a bit biased because I was a big Fitzpatrick guy in that draft. 

 

 

I was thinking some kind of 3 way trade might work. If anyone even wants Trent. We already don't have next years second, so unless the Dolphins want a 2021 second...

14 hours ago, ConnSKINS26 said:

 

There is precedent. Vincent Jackson did this with the Chargers under AJ Smith, that's the first one that pops into my mind. 

 

There's nothing to protect the team from. It's the current CBA. 

 

So he has to be active for 6 games, I imagine they can't just make him inactive to void it?

 

What about injuries? Because if he waits to week 10, and has to play 100% of the games...odds aren't in his favor!

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