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****ing mindless idiot...all he's doing is trying to figure out how he can make some money for his peeps out of this while ****ing with the dems and the liberal rat's nest trumpco sees as CA

 

it's a dark reality that more than few humans of his ilk are fine with the "libtard state"  seriously suffering 

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On 11/16/2018 at 7:43 AM, The Evil Genius said:

 

Thank the causeway. Or maybe the rice fields. Just glad I'm not in Elk Grove anymore.

 

Stay safe guys. 

Air is 175 right now much better than before. 

1000 people missing. Hopefully, they are accounted for soon. 

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Was Global Warming A Significant Factor in California's Camp Fire? The Answer is Clearly No.

https://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2018/11/was-global-warming-significant-factor.html

 

The Camp Fire that struck the northern California town of Paradise and vicinity is a profoundly disturbing environmental disaster of first magnitude.  Nearly 100 people have lost their lives, approximately 10,000 homes have been lost, a major community has essentially been destroyed, and millions of people have been exposed to high concentrations of smoke.  Tens of thousands of people have been displaced and lives of millions substantially affected.
 

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And beyond the heart-wrenching losses noted above, it is doubly tragic that this disaster was both foreseeable and avoidable, resulting from a series of errors, poor judgment, lack of use of available technology, and poor urban planning.

It is more than unfortunate that some politicians, environmental advocacy groups, and activist scientists are attempting to use this tragedy as a tool for their own agenda, make the claim that the Camp Fire was result of global warming.
 

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As I will discuss below, this claim has little grounding in fact or science.  Global warming is a profoundly serious threat to mankind, but it has little impact the Camp Fire and many of the coastal California fires of the past few years (e.g., the Wine Country Fires of October 2017).  And blaming global warming takes attention away from the actions needed to prevent such  tragedies from happening again.

Analyzing the Origins of the Camp Fire

 

 

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2 hours ago, twa said:

 

 

That is one of the better analysis I've seen in a long time. Even many (most?) of the comments that questioned his analysis where damn good and respectfully presented. This is the right way to present information and have discourse and I wish we could discuss issues and present arguments this way more often.

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Things like this are just incredibly frustrating to me. 

 

To me, we ought to have the ability to have as many people, and all the gear they need, on site, anywhere in the US, within a week. And anywhere in the world within 2-3. 

 

Yeah, I understand some things, like restoring power after a hurricane, maybe take more than a week to fix. Simply because of the width of the damage. 

 

But, seriously?  A big fire?  What do they need, and why don't they have it?  

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Judge in San Bruno criminal case demands answers from PG&E on cause of Camp Fire

 

A federal judge overseeing PG&E’s criminal probation from the deadly San Bruno pipeline explosion is demanding answers from the utility about its potential role in the Camp Fire or other major wildfires.

 

In a written order, U.S. District Judge William Alsup in San Francisco told PG&E to explain whether “reckless operation or maintenance of PG&E power lines” started a wildfire — and whether that might constitute a violation of the terms of the utility’s probation.

 

PG&E was found guilty in federal court of obstruction of justice and other charges in connection with the 2010 San Bruno disaster, which killed eight people and injured 58 others. At sentencing in January 2017, the utility was placed on five years’ probation, fined $3 million and ordered to perform thousands of hours of community service.

 

The probation sentence included a prohibition against committing further crimes.

 

Aside from the criminal case, the San Bruno catastrophe was a major crisis for PG&E. The utility was fined $1.6 billion by regulators and paid out hundreds of millions of dollars in civil settlements.

 

Alsup told the utility to provide “an accurate and complete statement of the role, if any, of PG&E in causing and reporting the recent Camp Fire in Butte County and all other wildfires in California” since PG&E was placed on probation in January 2017.

 

PG&E has disclosed to regulators that a transmission line, located near the spot where the Camp Fire ignited, experienced a problem a few minutes before the fire was reported early Nov. 8. Cal Fire continues to investigate the cause of the blaze, which has killed at least 88 people and has become the deadliest wildfire in the state’s history.

 

Click on the link for the full article

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