mammajamma Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said: Raking leaves has nothing to do with 10000 lighting strikes that caused 99.9% of the fires. Raking leaves has nothing to do with wildfires in general. Trump should just be ignored. He can't legally take away federal disaster funds anyway, so no reason to pay attention to anything he says on the matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 The Sacramento Bee has this interactive map showing locations of the California wildfires: https://mediaprogram.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=cc2890cca7c240e585d5bfb017ab8563 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Trump is unhelpful as usual, choosing to wag his finger when Americans are in need if they live in blue states. Like he did early in the corona virus as he watched Michigan and New York struggle, and Americans die, while his administration offered nothing but blame. No surprise here, he has shown the world who he is. He’s a man less interested in saving lives than he is in scoring short lived political points. What is valid though, is asking what needs to be done to prevent these kinds of fires. I mean practical solutions focused on the fires themselves, not opportunistic calls for higher population density. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibbsGreen11 Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 San Gabriel mountains near Wrightwood. Triple digit heat, recipe for wildfires. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mammajamma Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 24 minutes ago, Destino said: What is valid though, is asking what needs to be done to prevent these kinds of fires. I mean practical solutions focused on the fires themselves, not opportunistic calls for higher population density. a lot of it is kind of unavoidable at the moment. climate change has made this place hotter and dryer than ever before, so when you have 10k+ lightening strikes in one night, with no rain, its inevitable that there will be fires. its not just california. washington, oregon, colorado, utah, canada, australia, parts of south america, etc etc, all have the same issue every single year so it would take a massive change in how the world works (renewable energy, etc) , which we dont look like we're moving to anytime soon the one issue that should be a little more manageable, and has been a bigger issue in previous years is our electric infrastructure. we've allowed private companies like PG&E make too many mistakes while there shouldve been a state takeover a long time ago. they've been way behind on updating infrastructure over the last couple of decades in order to save money (while giving execs 10s of millions in bonuses), which has been direct causes to most of the fires last year. but the ones happening now aren't on them. just a pissed off mother nature 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Destino said: What is valid though, is asking what needs to be done to prevent these kinds of fires. I mean practical solutions focused on the fires themselves, not opportunistic calls for higher population density. What mammajamma said, basically. Unless you live out here, it's hard to fathom not having rain (as in none at all) from May to October. There was no preventing these cureent fires..but the Camp Fire of 2018 in Paradise was 100% PG&E's fault. Rather than funneling their insanely high profits (from gouging customers) into updating an ancient electrical grid, they chose instead to pay off shareholders and themselves. Edited August 21, 2020 by The Evil Genius 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Yesterday and last night. Creek fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Valley fire outside of San Diego Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 El Dorado Fire This fire,(Slink Fire),has really filled the valley with smoke the past week. If you weren't wearing a mask before,you did these past few days. Have a couple of friends who were on evacuation notice for a couple of days. It's roughly 30 or miles from here. It was surreal yesterday evening. Orange tint to the smokey sky last night with Sun invisible behind it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdcskins Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 It's hot today, real hot. I stepped out around 9 am and it felt like 100 already. No doubt contributing to the infernos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibbsGreen11 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) Took this pic this morning. Crestline, ca. Air quality in San Bernadino county is going to be rough. *El Dorado fire. Edited September 6, 2020 by GibbsGreen11 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mammajamma Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) air quality here has been about 150 or more for the last 3 weeks or so (typical is around 50... 150+ is unhealthy for everyone). very very tired of the smoke that doesnt look anywhere close to letting up it hasnt been cloudy here once for a while, but i havent seen the blue sky in 3 weeks Edited September 6, 2020 by mammajamma 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Driving to Sherman Oaks I saw yet another brushfire. We need water so badly out here. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted September 7, 2020 Author Share Posted September 7, 2020 California wildfire traps campers in national forest SHAVER LAKE, Calif. — (AP) — Three fast-spreading California wildfires sent people fleeing Saturday, with one trapping campers at a reservoir in the Sierra National Forest, as a brutal heat wave pushed temperatures into triple digits in many parts of state. The wildfire burning near Shaver Lake exploded to 56 square miles (145 square kilometers), jumped a river and compromised the only road into the Mammoth Pool Campground, national forest spokesman Dan Tune said. At least 2,000 structures were threatened in the area about 290 miles (467 kilometers) north of Los Angeles, where temperatures in the city's San Fernando Valley reached 117 degrees. The Fresno Fire Department tweeted late Saturday night that 63 people were rescued from the campground by military helicopters and that two of them were severely injured, 10 were moderately injured and 51 others had minor or no injuries. The Madera County Sheriff's Department said in a tweet earlier Saturday that about 150 people were at the campground's boat launch, and 10 of them were injured. “All are safe at this time," the department tweeted. Officers also were evacuating Beasore Meadows. a large ranch in the Sierra National Forest, on Saturday night, the department tweeted. Click on the link for the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted September 7, 2020 Author Share Posted September 7, 2020 California’s wildfires are creating giant lightning-filled volcanic eruption clouds in California California is burning like hell right now. And the fires are more visually menacing than usual, thanks to the rare pyrocumulus clouds the flames are creating. The fires are burning so hot that they’re making their own pyrocumulus cloud systems, each up to five miles high. These clouds are also making firefighting efforts more difficult. The speed with which pyrocumulus clouds form and change, combined with the heat of the fire, can lead to quick, massive temperature swings in the atmosphere, producing unpredictable and severe winds. These can exacerbate the intensity of wildfires, and cause them to move or otherwise behave in unpredictable ways. And that all can put the lives of firefighters and the public at risk. Sometimes, very rarely, pyromuculus clouds contain enough moisture that they produce heavy rain, potentially helping extinguish the fires that created them. Sadly, that does not appear to be happening this time as California is in the middle of an intense heatwave. Click on the link for the full article 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 (edited) Ominous looking sunset outside my apartment from the Bobcat fire. It's well over 100 degrees right now. Thankfully, the highs are supposed to drop 20-25 degrees over the next 48 hours. Edited September 7, 2020 by Bacon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mammajamma Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 absolutely unheard-of record-breaking heat in CA today. there were parts of the coast that hit 120 degrees...insane. everything's now heated up, dry, and winds are supposed to pick up tomorrow. probably going to get even uglier. climate change is starting to awaken the beast. the next 10 years should be fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 The high pressure system causing the heatwave has passed through; it dropped 20 degrees in 5 hours. The winds are also starting to pick up. It's definitely an improvement but yeah it's going to be a rough fire day tomorrow with things being as dry as they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 (edited) The El Dorado fire was apparently started from pyrotechnics during a gender reveal party. 2020 people are ****ing stupid. Edited September 7, 2020 by The Evil Genius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted September 7, 2020 Author Share Posted September 7, 2020 1 minute ago, The Evil Genius said: The El Dorado fire was apparently started from pyrotechnics during a gender reveal party. 2020 People are ****ing stupid. FTFY. Not just 2020. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mammajamma Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 9 hours ago, Bacon said: The high pressure system causing the heatwave has passed through; it dropped 20 degrees in 5 hours. The winds are also starting to pick up. It's definitely an improvement but yeah it's going to be a rough fire day tomorrow with things being as dry as they are. glad the temp dropped for you guys at least. still supposed to be 111 in northern cal today, with the wind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 (edited) It was 106° yesterday in El Sobrante (East Bay) at my house. Most people around here have houses built in the 60s and don't have AC (nor do they need really need pre global warming). We were lucky that we bought ours 4 years ago and the 1960s house had been remodeled to have it (even if it's a wimpy central AC that loses the battle during the day). This area cannot last through many more days of this. Allegedly back to high 70s low 80s by Friday. 🤞 Edit..the only positive is that the smoke level has been tolerable at night. Edited September 7, 2020 by The Evil Genius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted September 8, 2020 Author Share Posted September 8, 2020 If you look at the satellite imagery, the smoke from the fires is visible in the atmosphere all the way to Missouri. https://www.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/GOES/conus_band.php?sat=G16&band=GEOCOLOR&length=24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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