joeken24 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 I simply don't like our stiff ass QB against tough defenses. I just don't. He rarely does well. He "thinks" too goddamn much when he needs to be playing with "football" instincts, not some ****ing scientific analysis bull****. Listen to his interviews!! Its clear that he spends time in the pocket "thinking". You're playing football man!!! I say if it ain't natural, it ain't making plays. And Kirk doesn't "make plays" often enough for me to say its natural which is way it takes an act of congress for him to tuck and run or do anything off schedule. Defenses don't give a **** about what Kirk can do. Its scheduled and nothing comes as a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebestian Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, dyst said: My tip. A guy that you have to consitently say debate about, probabaly isnt that good. He’s a good QB but thats about it Exactly. The fact that their is doubt and debate is enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetThePointsSoar Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, thebeermonkey said: Could be worse we could be watching Blake Bortles As Blake Bortles leads a game tying drive in true ES fashion.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max21 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Norman got torched today. Is he worth the money?!? I could hear the Viking fans cheering on my TV! Smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDibbs31 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 If Gruden owns up to the play calls on 3rd and 4th and 1 then I will forgive. But guarantee he spews some bull**** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campbellcooleyconnection Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Also can't wait till they r out of Dead-Ex,HATE that house of horrors!! Win at Seattle come home & lose in that dump...again too Viking chants?!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdskn4eva Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 7 minutes ago, SlinginSammy HOF '63 said: Jay needs to be gone. Cousins can be decent if he has star receivers. He can't make things happen with just anybody like Brady. The thing is, if Kirk wants the kind of money he wants, we ain't paying for great receivers. I don’t need Kirk to be Brady. Brady is a once a generation player for a reason. Not everyone can have a player like that. Kirk is a good but inconsistent quarterback. If your benchmark is Brady (and that’s fine if it is), you’re going to be disappointed all the time because no one else in the nfl is brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 The Doctson twerk route along with Kirks INT is the difference, the defense played poorly but they've played winning football most of the year. It would have been nice for the offense to step up and win a game, can we say they have done that at all this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, TryTheBeal! said: Im gonna hang that last one in the 1st half on Kirk. So should you. I'm not. The Vikings got the ball on the 23 yard line, and I see absolutely no reason to assume a defense can't force a field goal i that situation. Neither offense nor defense is expected to only perform in ideal situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 The need to keep this on hand 'cuz the D **** the bed today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markmills67 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Sorry to keep repeating myself but said we would have a 7-9 or 8-8 season and lose Cousin's in FA, That part I'm not that bothered about because Cousin's in no way is a top 5 QB. But more importantly we will possibly end with a draft pick between 13-20 In the draft, which means unless we move up then drafting one of the top QB's is out of the question. HTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFLSkins Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, beachboy757 said: So the defense takes no blame for giving up 38 points at home? Everything is on Jay, Kirk, and the offense? I would say you are right, that is why I posted this pre-game.... 12%1-7 62%2-6 23%3-5 03%or as is right now, 4-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wysknz1 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Kirk played good enough to win today. But he also played bad enough to lose. I still say we get it just before and after the half. Yup, Kirk was a part of that with the INT. But crap 3 possessions and three TD'S??? even one FG out of those three, we probably win this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Destino said: I'm not. The Vikings got the ball on the 23 yard line, and I see absolutely no reason to assume a defense can't force a field goal i that situation. Neither is expected to only perform in ideal situations. They gave up 38 points. Follow your heart, brother. I trust my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 15 minutes ago, DM72 said: I noticed that the onside kick is a lost art. Rarely do you see a good one. Yep. Can roid kick the ball to Neptune, but can't kick it 5 ft when the pressure mounts, or onside kick when you need the ball back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, jschuck12001 said: The Doctson twerk route along with Kirks INT is the difference, the defense played poorly but they've played winning football most of the year. It would have been nice for the offense to step up and win a game, can we say they have done that at all this season? What the defense did the rest of the season doesn't matter. How many teams can give up 38 points to the Vikings and win? Name them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Destino Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 1 minute ago, TryTheBeal! said: Follow your heart, brother. I trust my eyes. Heart and eyes can sit this out. Reality persists no matter how we feel about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCoach22 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, Sticksboi05 said: Anyone talking about the offense when the defense gave up nearly 40 to Case ****ing Keenum doesn't get it. At all. Once or twice a year there are games that don't play out as you'd have thought... winners find a way. This wasn't the game I would have predicted, no, but it became obvious early that this was going to be a shootout. We made the first big error, twice settled for FGs under 30 yards, failed to convert a fourth and one, missed a wide open WR for a TD... that's what I will remember re: this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, SWFLSkins said: I guess determining that is up to the super smart fans, it's beyond me apparently. if you think you've correctly identified the situation then perhaps, as I predict the rest of the mod staff would affirm, you should read more and post less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDibbs31 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 it was fourth and more than 1 Gruden. That is why you ****ing suck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Just now, Destino said: Heart and eyes can sit this out. Reality persists no matter how we feel about it. Get ready for some reality in New Orleans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain James Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 1 minute ago, SWFLSkins said: At what point? Well they did score 30... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDibbs31 Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Should always be no-huddle with 7 minutes to go Gruden. **** your uptempo bull**** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 I have a simple answer to all of these debates: They're all enormous screwups. No one is beyond blame, no one deserves all the blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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