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Rufus T Firefly Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, techboy said: Apparently at the time he thought Romney was going to win the popular vote while Obama won the electoral college. You seem to be implying some kind of convenient hypocrisy from Donald J Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Cooked Crack Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Who could have predicted this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 i just saw that new ad from the lincoln project where they go after mitch, lindsey, and a dozen or so of the top congressional trump rumplickers it is very well done in every way and the substance is excellent, one of the best i've seen in a long time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinny21 Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Anyone else see “Unfit” yet? Well done IMO, and the psychological angle was particularly interesting (and scary). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmirOfShmo Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Using Kellyanne's own words...🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoneMessedUp Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Alaska is in play. Trump won it by 15 in 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted July 9, 2020 Author Share Posted July 9, 2020 What would be funny if Trump had a complete blowout. The entire country votes against him. That would be epic. OF course that's not happening but that would epic if it did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 18 minutes ago, DoneMessedUp said: Alaska is in play. Trump won it by 15 in 2016 Whoah, that's something I didn't really see coming (or even think about...I can't remember the last time I checked Alaska's polling for a POTUS election). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 10 hours ago, Jumbo said: i just saw that new ad from the lincoln project where they go after mitch, lindsey, and a dozen or so of the top congressional trump rumplickers it is very well done in every way and the substance is excellent, one of the best i've seen in a long time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 The significance of the Alaska polls (apart from showing what terrible shape Trump is in generally) is that there is a Senate race that could end up being competitive. It's a bit of a long shot at the moment, but one to keep an eye on potentially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DoneMessedUp Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 hour ago, mistertim said: Whoah, that's something I didn't really see coming (or even think about...I can't remember the last time I checked Alaska's polling for a POTUS election). There hasn't really been any quality polling for Alaska but there's been rumblings that it (the senate race--which is within 5--and the presidental race) was closer than people expected. So someone reached out to PPP to see if they would do an Alaska poll. PPP said they'd do it for $5,000 so dude started a gofundme... https://www.gofundme.com/f/letspollalaska Hit the mark and PPP told them to just donate it to a charity and did the poll anyway, which is cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoneMessedUp Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 40 minutes ago, Rufus T Firefly said: The significance of the Alaska polls (apart from showing what terrible shape Trump is in generally) is that there is a Senate race that could end up being competitive. It's a bit of a long shot at the moment, but one to keep an eye on potentially. They polled the senate race as well As well as a congressional race there where the Democrat-backed independent is up on the Republican incumbent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 minute ago, DoneMessedUp said: They polled the senate race as well Yeah, there was some word that internal D polling had Gross ahead there. The problem with that poll is the ridiculous number of undecideds. Generally, if you have an inordinate number of undecided voters in a heavily Republican state, you expect those voters to gravitate towards the R candidate by the end. It's the reason a lot of people don't think Lindsey Graham (or Lady G) is in real trouble in his re-election, even though some of the polls have him behind. Again, I think the Alaska race is a long shot for now, but worth keeping a bit of an eye on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Rufus T Firefly said: Yeah, there was some word that internal D polling had Gross ahead there. The problem with that poll is the ridiculous number of undecideds. Generally, if you have an inordinate number of undecided voters in a heavily Republican state, you expect those voters to gravitate towards the R candidate by the end. It's the reason a lot of people don't think Lindsey Graham (or Lady G) is in real trouble in his re-election, even though some of the polls have him behind. Again, I think the Alaska race is a long shot for now, but worth keeping a bit of an eye on. I'm genuinely curious as to what the Trump effect will be there when it comes to undecideds. You're right that generally in a red state with lots of undecideds they'll usually break for the Republican (and vice versa), but I'm wondering how much of their Republican population is made up of full on Trumpers vs more traditional or moderate Republicans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Some of those undecides may skip marking the president choices and vote for the down ballot candidates, if those candidates aren't flat out Trumpers. Then I expect that they'll just stay home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rufus T Firefly Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 2 hours ago, mistertim said: I'm genuinely curious as to what the Trump effect will be there when it comes to undecideds. You're right that generally in a red state with lots of undecideds they'll usually break for the Republican (and vice versa), but I'm wondering how much of their Republican population is made up of full on Trumpers vs more traditional or moderate Republicans. It's a really good question. I wonder if the down ballot effect might not be the opposite of what we'd expect, to an extent. In other words, people in a red state might be tired of Trump specifically, but not want to vote for not only a Democratic President, but give him a D Senate and House. I am a bit skeptical about how many traditional R voter are going to vote an entirely blue ticket, especially when their grievances are targeted at Trump in particular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Next time Biden gives a speech in what appears to be a large empty space, as he is right now, his campaign needs to pick one without so many birds in it. It sounds like he’s speaking to us from the bird house at the zoo. Very distracting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, Destino said: It sounds like he’s speaking to us from the bird house at the zoo. Very distracting. Birds for Biden. I’ll see myself out. It is another solid speech though. He seems more comfortable and confident all the time. Dignified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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