tshile Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 23 minutes ago, Dan T. said: Only 44 men have held the office in the history of the United States. So your definition of loser is pretty broad. I think theres more to it than he just didn’t win president.... but ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 If Biden were to say if elected he would only serve one term and then step aside for a younger generation of Democrat leaders to step up. I think he'd land the Warren, Pete and Amy supporters. Adding in someone like Gretchen Whitmer as a runningmate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 39 minutes ago, @SkinsGoldPants said: If Biden were to say if elected he would only serve one term and then step aside for a younger generation of Democrat leaders to step up. I think he'd land the Warren, Pete and Amy supporters. Adding in someone like Gretchen Whitmer as a runningmate. Nah. Only promising to serve one term makes people think you're a loser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 19 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said: Nah. Only promising to serve one term makes people think you're a loser. Theodore Roosevelt did it. Granted, he meant it for when he ran at the top of the ticket and then changed his mind in 1912 and tried to get back in. I don't see the "loser" connection. Rather, I see pragmatic. Acknowledging the Dems haven't done a good job elevating younger people to leadership positions within the party. Felt like they were headed that way with Obama. But after his 8 years, back to the same "OLD". Not a Pro-Biden post. Just looking for the best combination on a ticket to win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Just looking for the best combination on a ticket to win. "Biden/Pete" seems to have been endorsed by a large group of ES's most rational* posters. * Defined as "agrees with me". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted March 1, 2020 Author Share Posted March 1, 2020 3 hours ago, Larry said: Based on . . . ? Age. Bernie had a heartattack. The stress of the job is likely to give him another heartattack and this time probably a fatal one. Joe is in mental decline. It will probably deteriorate even further once he takes office. He'll probably just drop dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCB Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 I don't think Biden is in mental decline. He's not the most mellifluous speaker, but that's always been the case. If you listen to his town halls particularly, he has a rapid and pretty in-depth command of lots of different policy debates, very detailed and clear. Don't buy the store-bought narrative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 4 hours ago, Rdskns2000 said: Both Bernie and Joe are likely to die in their first term. 4 hours ago, Larry said: Based on . . . ? 12 minutes ago, Rdskns2000 said: Age. Sorry, Hans, wrong guess. Would you like to try for Double Jeopardy, where the scores can really change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted March 1, 2020 Author Share Posted March 1, 2020 3/3- Super Tuesday Alabama (52) American Samoa (6) Arkansas (31) California (415) Colorado (67) Democrats Abroad* (13) Maine (24) Massachusetts (91) Minnesota (75) North Carolina (110) Oklahoma (37) Tennessee (64) Texas (228) Utah (29) Vermont (16) Virginia (99) Love the fantasy that everyone is having that this will be a race after Tuesday and that includes the biggest dreamers of all, the candidates themselves. Bernie is either leading or in a close 2nd in many of the Tuesday states. Also, a significant portion of the voters have already participated via early voting. Of the 1300+ delegates available to win on Tuesday, Bernie is likely to win at least half of that. That would be probably over 650+ delegates. I doubt anyone else would win even half that amount. For this to be considered a two man race with Biden; then Joe has to beat Sanders in the states that Sanders is leading in the polls in. Joe has to beat Sanders in NC,VA,CO,TX. Joe also has to finish 15% in CA to prevent Bernie from getting all the delegates there. Right now, it looks like Sanders and then Warren will get delegates from CA. Bloomberg isn't going to win any states. He just wants to get 15% and rack up delegates and then try to win it at a contested convention. This strategy fails if he doesn't win 15% in many of the Super Tuesday states. If he can't win as many delegates as Biden does; then it's over for him. Warren is under the delusion she will win alot of delegates and can push forward. She will win some delegates but not as much as she thinks she will. She is also pursuing the contested convention strategy now. She racks up as many delegates as she can and then they turn to her at the convention. Buttigieg is also pursuing the contested convention strategy, accept he's not going win that many delegates and he really want have a viable path; even in a contested convention. Gabbard- why is she still in it. She's not going to win any delegates and will hardly get any votes. The only real suspense on Tuesday is whether or not Joe can do what he needs to do and hope Bloomberg doesn't get 15% anywhere because that will take votes from him. You want any semblance of a two person race; Joe has to straight up beat Sanders in many key states and somehow win 15% of the vote in CA, to prevent Bernie from winning the lion's share there. Once everything is settled , I expect Sanders to be the big winner with over 650+ delegates won. The next closest will be probably be Biden, but I'll be surprise he wins more than 300+ delegates. The remaining delegates will be split among the others. I doubt anyone else will win over 200+ delegates and that's likely to be Warren. I have no idea about how Bloomberg will do. He's still polling well in many states, we will have to see. If he does win delegates, it hurts both Biden and Warren. I don't expect Buttigig or Klobuchar to be a factor. Klobuchar- If there's a candidate that will actually drop out on Tuesday, it's her. The only remaining delegates she will win, is by winning her home state. Sh will see that reality on Tuesday and drop out then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LadySkinsFan Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Steyer is out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 3 hours ago, Larry said: Just looking for the best combination on a ticket to win. "Biden/Pete" seems to have been endorsed by a large group of ES's most rational* posters. * Defined as "agrees with me". I wonder if that's actually what people want or the path of least resistance. I'll pull the lever them if that's the ticket, but it's not what I want. Not my first or second choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Renegade7 said: I wonder if that's actually what people want or the path of least resistance. I'll pull the lever them if that's the ticket, but it's not what I want. Not my first or second choice. Obviously, every person has their own ranking system. Mine is: 1) Not Trump. 2) Not Bernie. After that, I'm a lot more flexible. "Not Bloomberg" is probably a distant third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Larry said: Obviously, every person has their own ranking system. Mine is: 1) Not Trump. 2) Not Bernie. After that, I'm a lot more flexible. "Not Bloomberg" is probably a distant third. To keep from seeming judgemental, I'll jus say I'm sticking with aiming high on solutions where waiting for everyone to agree isnt in mine or my family's best interest. I'm not going to speak for what everyone should do, jus what I will, right or wrong. Aiming high and letting reality sort it out got me from homeless to masters degree, it was only a matter of time until that seeped into how I view politics. Adjustment period for me and still trying to sort it out with transitioning from idealistic to pragmatic. Voting with my heart in the primary, promise to vote with head in the general. 5 minutes ago, StillUnknown said: Wtf? Wont he still be in the ballots? I feel I remember this happening back in previous primaries, folks we could vote for that already dropped out. The problem is always making clear that people know that, and I maintain the best way is stop making excuses and take people that drop out off the ballot so people have to write their names in if they are that serious about still voting for them, not by mistake because they are still on the ballot. It's not rocket science, but it shouldnt be this confusing for folks nor difficult to rectify even with short notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Interesting timing for Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Now do Bloomberg next. Klob getting out after Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Time for Biden to announce his running mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsFan44 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Pete dropping out has to help Biden. I think we see a consolidation of the anti Bernie vote. And yes, if Bloomberg doesn't like Bernie he should drop out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdcskins Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Pete! What the hell?! I gave you like two thousand bucks. ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry.Randolphe Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Thank god.....now we just need Klobuchar and Bloomberg to drop out next. I don't like Biden, but he's the best case for winning the election. Bernie isn't. I think the other candidates are realizing that and have reluctantly ceded to Biden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 That means warren and klobuchar need to get out too. Now. same with Bloomberg but he appears to be a giant **** so I wouldn’t expect him to do anything for the greater good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, abdcskins said: Pete! What the hell?! I gave you like two thousand bucks. ****. What would you like him to do with it, that you think would be a better use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdcskins Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Larry said: What would you like him to do with it, that you think would be a better use? Give it to the World Wildlife Fund. Or bet it on the Wizards tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, abdcskins said: Pete! What the hell?! I gave you like two thousand bucks. ****. Where does that money go when these candidates drop out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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