Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 Just now, Ray-Ban Dan said: They can't accept defeat? Do you have a problem with people doing stuff like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray-Ban Dan Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said: Do you have a problem with people doing stuff like that? Like what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 Just now, Ray-Ban Dan said: Like what? Losing their **** because they lost, disrespecting the elected president, refusing to admit defeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray-Ban Dan Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 1 minute ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said: Losing their **** because they lost, disrespecting the elected president, refusing to admit defeat. No, not really. Frankly, it's kind of amusing. Sad. But amusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 I don't think defeat has anything to do with it.  Losing is normal.  This time It's about who won and fears of what he and his cabinet will do.  Mainly uncertainty in regards to Trump (something he seems to cultivate) and fear that his cabinet will roll back a lot of progress made on a number of issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 7 minutes ago, Ray-Ban Dan said: No, not really. Frankly, it's kind of amusing. Sad. But amusing. I agree. As long as you can discern which criticisms are legitimate and which are sad / amusing and that you apply the same standard to the previous 8 years as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 1 hour ago, Ray-Ban Dan said: They can't accept defeat? Sure, go with that and you will continue to misunderstand the outrage. I wonder how much folks on the Right even care that they misunderstand or if it's just easier to believe the myth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 The race is on   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 7 hours ago, AsburySkinsFan said: Sure, go with that and you will continue to misunderstand the outrage. I wonder how much folks on the Right even care that they misunderstand or if it's just easier to believe the myth. Sounds like what the Left does with the Rights opinions on well......everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 While entirely on point and relevant here, I acknowledge that posting this is akin to putting a note in a bottle and throwing it into the sea  Quote .........This search led him to create a word for the study of deliberate propagation of ignorance: agnotology.  It comes from agnosis, the neoclassical Greek word for ignorance or ‘not knowing’, and ontology, the branch of metaphysics which deals with the nature of being. Agnotology is the study of wilful acts to spread confusion and deceit, usually to sell a product or win favour...... .......Proctor explains that ignorance can often be propagated under the guise of balanced debate. For example, the common idea that there will always be two opposing views does not always result in a rational conclusion.  http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20160105-the-man-who-studies-the-spread-of-ignorance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 32 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said: Sounds like what the Left does with the Rights opinions on well......everything. That's just not factual at all. We keep asking people on the right what they want and what they stand for and we get nothing but slogans. We ask for reasons behind cheering on an arms race and we get crickets. People on the left keep explaining what the issues are and why as far as what they fear will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 1 minute ago, Hersh said: That's just not factual at all. We keep asking people on the right what they want and what they stand for and we get nothing but slogans. We ask for reasons behind cheering on an arms race and we get crickets. Thats because you are talking to people like TWA.  I've done my best to answer any questions and explain positions whenever asked and I have time.  Though some people get confused because I don't automatically tow the party line.  There aren't a whole lot of conservatives here to answer questions so that's partly why you end up with the type of answers you get.  But it's also partly because you (meaning the left in general) hear the parts that you want to hear or write off their concerns as unfounded.  Now it is possible their concerns are unfounded but that doesn't change that it is a concern.  But it's more fun to mock them then have a reasonable discussion.  Just look at the gun control thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 6 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said: Thats because you are talking to people like TWA.  I've done my best to answer any questions and explain positions whenever asked and I have time.  Though some people get confused because I don't automatically tow the party line.  There aren't a whole lot of conservatives here to answer questions so that's partly why you end up with the type of answers you get.  But it's also partly because you (meaning the left in general) hear the parts that you want to hear or write off their concerns as unfounded.  Now it is possible their concerns are unfounded but that doesn't change that it is a concern.  But it's more fun to mock them then have a reasonable discussion.  Just look at the gun control thread. I was being more general as well and not talking about you specifically and it doesn't just pertain to this board. If a concern is unfounded, like Trump's total garbage claim that Hillary wanted to get rid of the 2nd amendment, what exactly would you like people on the left to do? We said over and over again that it wasn't true.   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 1 minute ago, Hersh said: I was being more general as well and not talking about you specifically and it doesn't just pertain to this board. If a concern is unfounded, like Trump's total garbage claim that Hillary wanted to get rid of the 2nd amendment, what exactly would you like people on the left to do? We said over and over again that it wasn't true.   I thought you more meant conservatives on this board and figured I had to speak up since I am about 25% of that population.  I apoligize.  But just using the 2nd as an example, I think only crazies think the left is literally going to come take our guns, though it happened in Australia so it isn't beyond the realm of possibility.  But the left has said they want to curtail gun rights beyond what many of us are comfortable with.  And there has been more than a few on the left that have said the 2nd should be repealed.  So let's not act like it's completely unfounded concern.  Just mostly.  Of course the reason it won't happen isn't because it's wrong, but because the biggest lobby in the world is on "our" side.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 ^^^^ Tweets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 Â Â Â Â q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 6 minutes ago, visionary said:  q  Well, I suppose it's marginally better than him skipping intelligence briefings, and getting them from Russia.  Maybe.  (I don't think Russia is trying to manipulate us into a war). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 Why should Putin want war against us when all he has to do is complete making Trump, his cabinet, and the Republican Congress his little ****es? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LadySkinsFan Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 ^^^ It's all about money with this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 6 minutes ago, LadySkinsFan said: ^^^ It's all about money with this guy. That's the way it is with Oligarchs, they rule based on business because it's the only thing that they believe is important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 I bet this is how Donny pictures himself whenever he looks into the mirror. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 16 minutes ago, spjunkies said: I bet this is how Donny pictures himself whenever he looks into the mirror. That's the way his supporters see him too!   *edit: I can't find the Vince McMahon gif where it looks like he's oogling some guy flexing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 17 minutes ago, AsburySkinsFan said: That's the way his supporters see him too!  *edit: I can't find the Vince McMahon gif where it looks like he's oogling some guy flexing  I got you covered  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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