Going Commando Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Here is an even more incredible scenario: Cleveland offers Houston LeBron + Brooklyn pick for Harden, does Houston say yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveakl Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 50 minutes ago, stevemcqueen1 said: Here is an even more incredible scenario: Cleveland offers Houston LeBron + Brooklyn pick for Harden, does Houston say yes? Not if LeBron doesn't commit longer then 1 year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Unless they've got something better on the table, no way in Hell should Cleveland void this deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 LeBron + Kevin Love for James Harden + Ryan Anderson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 6 hours ago, stevemcqueen1 said: LeBron + Kevin Love for James Harden + Ryan Anderson. No because you are going to end up with just Kevin Love after the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 2 hours ago, Lombardi's_kid_brother said: No because you are going to end up with just Kevin Love after the season. All four members of the banana boat crew hit FA in 2018. How did I not realize this before now? Anyway, I think it's obvious now that they are going to join up on whatever team makes the moves to afford all four of them. But my scenario is impossible though. I forgot Harden signed a DPVE so he can't be traded until July 2018. But let's say that both Harden and LeBron did waive their no trade clauses (not sure if Harden can, but bear with me), wouldn't Houston be the best destination to build a team around the banana boat crew? In a hypothetical trade where they get LeBron and Love, that'd add like 25 million in cap space to the 20 something million they already had. They could use that 50 million to bring in Melo and Wade in FA, among many other things as I don't think Wade will be expensive. Then they could go over the cap to keep Paul, LeBron, Ariza, and Capela. Guards: Paul, Wade, Gordon, X decent free agent Forwards: LeBron, Melo, Ariza, Tucker Bigs: Love, Capela, Nene, X decent free agent That's a really damn strong roster. Led by two MVP front runners in LeBron and Paul, supported by two All Star role players in Melo and Love, and three more role players of a quality that most teams would kill to have in Ariza, Wade, and Gordon. Plus that back end of the rotation in Tucker and Nene and Capela plus whatever decent back up PG and swing forward or big they could get with their FA money is strong enough to play high in most rotations. They'd be 12 men deep and balanced. That's strong enough to beat the Warriors in a series and win a ring or two before their window closed. That'd be the strongest team that LeBron has ever played on. By far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo the kKklown Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Carmelo is a free agent in 2019 unless the Knicks buy him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Melo has an ETO for 2018/2019. He can opt out and become a free agent this summer. I think he'll exercise the ETO too because he's going to continue being miserable in NY and he's going to want to join LeBron and CP3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo the kKklown Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 That is the last big salary Melo will ever earn. He is not going to opt-out. Just like Wade didn't opt-out in Chicago even though he hates it there and his teammates hate him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 1 hour ago, BenningRoadSkin said: That is the last big salary Melo will ever earn. He is not going to opt-out. Just like Wade didn't opt-out in Chicago even though he hates it there and his teammates hate him back. He could easily sign for 20 million or more in a place like Houston and end up with take home pay that's almost as good or even better than what he's had in New York because of the tax burden he's been paying there. Houston would have almost 50 million in pure cap room in the scenario where they trade for LeBron and Love and ship off Harden/Anderson and they'd have Early Bird Rights on Paul, LeBron, Ariza, and Capela. Figure Wade takes a paycut to around 10 million a year. They'd easily be able to afford Melo at 20 million+ plus a couple of other high quality free agents. But even if he didn't go to Houston, Melo can command 20+ million this sumer in a market that saw Otto Porter and Gordon Hayward making more than that, and Tim Hardaway coming close--even when teams were squeezed by low cap growth. What would have been the point for Wade to opt out this summer? If his primary goal is to join up with Melo, LeBron, and CP3 (I think it definitely is), then nobody else was a free agent until next summer. He'd have had to sign a one year deal somewhere at a massively reduced rate and wait it out anyway to see where everyone else was signing next summer. No matter what he did this summer, he was going to be in a one season holding pattern. Might as well stay where he already was and make bank before moving on. Melo will not be in the same situation next summer. LeBron and/or CP3 will determine everyone's destination and Melo will know where he needs to go. I doubt he waits another year to join them just to make a few million more when he can control his fate next summer and contend for a ring while he's still pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 They probably just make Boston throw in another pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 8 minutes ago, justice98 said: They probably just make Boston throw in another pick. That would be incredible. But is Boston at the point where they have to say yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 43 minutes ago, stevemcqueen1 said: That would be incredible. But is Boston at the point where they have to say yes? Would be a really good move by Cleveland and Boston definitely has to say yes. At this point, what is one more first round pick considering what Boston has said about Irving and that IT knows they don't want him anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo the kKklown Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 2 hours ago, stevemcqueen1 said: He could easily sign for 20 million or more in a place like Houston we have no idea if he could or couldnt. Its also not the 28 million he will get from the Knicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 2 hours ago, BenningRoadSkin said: we have no idea if he could or couldnt. Its also not the 28 million he will get from the Knicks. Yeah but he has to pay 13% in state and city taxes for the Knicks so that 28 in New York is about the same as 24 in Texas. Also there are other financial reason for him to opt out of a one year deal. A multi-year commitment at this stage in his career, signed while he's still good enough to command some money, could pay out more than if he were to wait another season to make it. And he could also resuscitate his market value by playing on a mini Team USA with CP3 and LeBron. I don't know that he has to opt out to join with LeBron and CP3 either, because I'm looking at the Lakers and seeing almost total flexibility there. Luol Deng is the only "bad" contract they have. They could deal Jordan Clarkson for Melo, and I bet New York says yes. Brandon Ingram and Lonzo Ball are other positive assets they could trade to bring in LeBron or CP3 or bring in support players for them like Paul George. Banana Boat crew plus one other significant player are going to end up forming in either LA, Houston, Chicago, or Dallas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Destino Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 If IT is out that long that means they have to play DRose big minutes right? What could go wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 (edited) Cleveland doesn't care. The East is so weak that they will be a top 4 seed without trying. If they are close to healthy by the playoffs, Lebron goes super-saiyan and they waltz to the finals. They don't need home court. Edited September 1, 2017 by Predicto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DM72 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Damn. In that shot, LeBron does look like he wants to beat Kyrie's ass. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I know nothing about him but Kyrie does seem like the type of guy that would get really annoying to be around really fast. I mean, the dude is a flat Earther. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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