Koolblue13 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I get people not wanting to vote for the president....but what about for your state stuff? How can you not have a yes or no opinion on some of that stuff?Gay marriage? Casinos? Cops? You don't have to vote for any of the presidential candidates... I can't vote for PotUS today because of my lack of preparation in my current location and I am very very disappointed that I didn't get my ducks in a row fast enough to vote here, but I also wanted a political break and to give it a year in my very different new home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USS Redskins Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 If someone doesn't want to vote that's their right; nothing wrong with that. I do believe that if you don't vote; then you can't complain with the choices that were made because you choose not to vote. I was listening to someone on coast to coast a couple of weeks ago and the guy saif people should not vote. Well, that's their right; the reason he gave was stupid. He was saying that if a significant portion didn't vote; that would get the parties in power to change. I disagree. What needs to be done in this election and future elections is have more and more people vote third party/independent. I've voted Libertarian for President in 2012,2008 and 2004. Voted Republican in 1988 and 2000 and voted Democrat in 1992. I would never have thought I would agree with anything you said ever, but you are right on. If you dont vote and make your voice heard when it really counts then STFU. It's a real privilege that many people in this planet dont get the advantage of doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I would never have thought I would agree with anything you said ever, but you are right on.If you dont vote and make your voice heard when it really counts then STFU. It's a real privilege that many people in this planet dont get the advantage of doing. STFU? There are a lot of things we Americans get to do, that most people can't that I don't care to do. Voting for the better of two choices in this pathetic Oligarchy is hardly one of the important ones anymore and pushing it so hard that everyone else should Shut the **** Up about it, is some childish fake patriotism bull****. Try not to break your saluting arm, patting your own back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rictus58 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Voting for the better of two choices in this pathetic Oligarchy is hardly one of the important ones anymore and pushing it so hard that everyone else should Shut the **** Up about it, is some childish fake patriotism bull****. Try not to break your saluting arm, patting your own back. There are ALWAYS more than 2 choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 You can't vote? No Will you be able to eventually? Or that **** is forever? My bull**** is super complicated since it's federal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bay Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I get people not wanting to vote for the president....but what about for your state stuff? How can you not have a yes or no opinion on some of that stuff?Gay marriage? Casinos? Cops? You don't have to vote for any of the presidential candidates... Similar to Koolblue, I'm not yet set up to the point where I could and feel comfortable voting for anything on a local/small scale. Also drug my feet too much in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinFeathers Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I can't vote for PotUS today because of my lack of preparation in my current location and I am very very disappointed that I didn't get my ducks in a row fast enough to vote here, but I also wanted a political break and to give it a year in my very different new home. The absentee, while easily accessible with endless information on the websites, is rarely talked about. Not that it's hard at all to get online to check it out, but the dates kinda creep up on you. I applied for my ballot the last day I could and mailed it yesterday Not an excuse for people, but I feel like the info isn't really promoted? Maybe that's just me. I feel kinda silly for saying all of this, like I'm not capable of remembering to do my absentee stuff without someone telling me. But you just made a big move and it's pretty understandable. Regardless, it's more the people who say they won't vote because they hate the presidential candidates. I was just pointing out there's more on the ballot than that...it's basically why I voted. Personally, I don't really care about the whole "you can't complain if you voted/didn't vote." Everyone will complain. One of my friends isn't voting because she said she isn't informed enough...I told her it's not that hard to get informed at least about some things, and she was just apathetic about the whole thing. I disagree with her, but it's not my decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I am not voting In the First Take election they are having right now. Stephen A Smith and Skip Bayless are arguing on First Take about who would be a better president. They are the worst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USS Redskins Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 STFU? There are a lot of things we Americans get to do, that most people can't that I don't care to do. Voting for the better of two choices in this pathetic Oligarchy is hardly one of the important ones anymore and pushing it so hard that everyone else should Shut the **** Up about it, is some childish fake patriotism bull****. Try not to break your saluting arm, patting your own back. Sorry you are so miserable in this great country. Though I notice you have a computer or some form of internet access and time to waste online (as I do)... so all could not be so bad in the Oligarchy. No one has it easy anymore but I think its really awesome that we actually get a say in our gov't. If that is patriotic BS, then I am fine with it. I dont mean it to sound harsh, but I believe if you skip your consitutional right to vote you cant complain about the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxiumone Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I use to think it could not be an Oligarchy anymore and somebody not towing the flows policies, especially as hard as these two are could come in and make a difference.The last election, people wanted change so bad they had hope. They got the same old retread bull****. So, we watch people squabble over the tiniest differences or slight changes in stats and graphs and mostly because they enjoy it in the same way we enjoy arguing over whos football team is better. I think people enjoy their immediate comfort of their daily lives and find more importance in the safety of today. I think people are happy being ignorant and there isn't much hope for that. This about sums it up and until America figures out that neither party gives a rat's ass about anyone other than the rich and getting re-elected this will continue ---------- Post added November-6th-2012 at 11:05 AM ---------- Why not vote 3rd party then? The more people vote 3rd party and the polls reflect that there are more people wanting change, 3rd party candidates have a better chance in the future for becoming a viable option instead of people thinking it would just be a wasted vote. And this also is something I feel strongly in and agree with. I will be voting today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I am not voting. I have given up the hope I once in the ability of the political process. I feel the system is too corrupted and favors only the rich. I also refuse to pretend that either of these candidates have a platform that I can support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinInsite Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 The tone in this thread is strangely similar to teen angst about how everything sucks and nobody understands me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Harris Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I am not. Early voting ended Saturday and I am in Baltimore with my mom who is undergoing emergency surgery. So I can't and right now it concerns me zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostofSparta Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 My bull**** is super complicated since it's federal. Sucks man. I was going to ask if you lived in one of the states where you can petition, but if it's federal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I dont mean it to sound harsh, yes you do. but I believe if you skip your consitutional right to vote you cant complain about the result. Yes I can. ---------- Post added November-6th-2012 at 11:29 AM ---------- The tone in this thread is strangely similar to teen angst about how everything sucks and nobody understands me. LoL! So that's how you have decided to dismiss us? I don't trust this government and I refuse to pretend any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdlives Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I am not. Early voting ended Saturday and I am in Baltimore with my mom who is undergoing emergency surgery. So I can't and right now it concerns me zero. MH, I hope everything turns out okay. Obviously that is far more important. Nothing's going to change if we don't exercise our voice through voting. I've never been affiliated with either party and have voted Dem, Rep, and third party. Not voting is not showing up. It's not stating an opinion. It's not being heard when you say you don't like the choices you have. If more people who don't like the choices we have actually voted against those choices, we'd be better off. At least that's how I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stugein Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 5% of the popular vote gets a 3rd party equal access to federal campaign grants in future elections. That's HUGE. If you don't like one of the "big 2" then go out and try to help bring a 3rd option into the conversation. The only vote that "doesn't matter" is the one that isn't cast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeman38 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 If you don't vote and make your voice heard when it really counts then STFU.See, we live in America where Freedom of Speech is written into the Bill of Rights. That pretty much guarantees even those who don't vote are allowed to express their opinion on things. It is because of this we are separated from the countries you invoke in the next sentence. It's a real privilege that many people in this planet don't get the advantage of doing.This also irks me. It is not a privilege to vote, it is a RIGHT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 It makes me feel sad that people think that the sum total of their "voice" is a single digit on an election night news graphic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinInsite Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 LoL! So that's how you have decided to dismiss us? I don't trust this government and I refuse to pretend any more. We are on a Redskin's message board in the middle of a work day, things can't be that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I dont mean it to sound harsh, but I believe if you skip your consitutional right to vote you cant complain about the result. Because something is a right, that doesn't mean you have to do it. People are entitled to free speech and the right to express their opinions as well. If someone doesn't want to vote because they don't like the choices, that's voicing an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticVillain Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I vote because too many people have fought for me to vote. I just feel like I should honor them by voting. Even though I think the whole system is messed up. But I love people who stand up for the right things.... When I do vote, I usually take this approach: To me, it's been, who is the best of the worst. But that is about it. If something happens and I can't vote, I am not going to lose any sleep over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 The tone in this thread is strangely similar to teen angst about how everything sucks and nobody understands me. SI, ya almost a week off for trolling the thread. But you're such a long-timer with a clean record and there was some humor in the incite. Per the old "don't vote, don't complain" it's just another cliched viewpoint. I think the cliche is half understandable in some ways (I have "felt" it at times, but it doesn't stick) and often it is fully stupid as many express it. The very people who come off as "waving their little flag" and putting the non-voter down as a group seem to automatically (stupidly/hypocritically enough) want them to "shut up", which sort of goes against one of our biggest Americanisms--"free speech." Not to mention it ignores human nature. Most folks (including them) ***** about some things some times that they don't lift a finger to doing anything about when they could. I wish everyone who could vote, would. But if you don't that's your right, and so is still ****ing about the whole damn system. The reality is by speaking your thoughts, you're still participating whether you vote or not (but I hope everyone would vote). And you can't accurately gauge the worthiness of a person's thoughts on our political system by whether or not they voted. I know a lot of voters that have nothing to brag about in that department, though I'm fine with giving them "credit for participation." I am also, all of a sudden, remembering when our lauded founding fathers thought voting was solely the province of the while male landowner. A random association, but always worth mentioning this time of season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sikbug Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I'm not planning on voting today, I have to vote in Manhattan and the trains still aren't running near me, plus NY is going to vote the way I'd vote anyway. If I lived in a swing state, I'd vote without a doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Harris Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 MH, I hope everything turns out okay. Obviously that is far more important.Nothing's going to change if we don't exercise our voice through voting. I've never been affiliated with either party and have voted Dem, Rep, and third party. Not voting is not showing up. It's not stating an opinion. It's not being heard when you say you don't like the choices you have. If more people who don't like the choices we have actually voted against those choices, we'd be better off. At least that's how I see it. I wouldn't miss voting if not for this. I would've voted early had I known. I live in WV so my vote for president wouldn't matter but I don't like to miss the local stuff. Especially would love to cast a vote against our incumbent sheriff who is under federal indictment for beating up a bank robber and lying to the Feds about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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