Skinsinparadise Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Liar. Spags took himself out of contention for the job because he didn't want any part of this circus. Yeah I read that. most of what he said didn't add up. Zorn was the bane of all that went wrong according to Vinny but he takes no responsibility for the hire -- how could he -- if he's using Zorn as the scapegoat he can't associate himself at the same time to him. when cornered about why not hire Spags and Schwartz -- his answer was that they weren't ready. Heck Zorn was never even a coordinator in the league but he was more ready than those guys? And the idea that Zorn lost it because his ego was too big and too concerned about being a celebrity is laughable. I've been one of Zorn's toughest critics on the board as back as season 1 -- but as a person that guy exuded class. ---------- Post added March-8th-2011 at 06:02 PM ---------- Seems like the rest of the world has started to figure out how awful Vinny was, and is.http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/08/vinny-cerrato-jim-zorn-ruined-by-ego-becoming-a-celebrity/ Yeah that article summed it well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABSTRACT Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Either Dan Snyder is just an impressionable punk that does not know football or he does not care about this team to have a guy like Vinny at GM. Maybe it's both..idk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Janky Spanky Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Wow Vinny really is in idiot. I guess he's still basically unemployed, with the exception of a few radio appearances, right? I wish I'd called in. Just listened to some of the audio, and some of the callers gave Vinny softballs...like "why is it so hard to evaluate a college quarterback?" If I could be in the same room as Vinny, all I'd want to know is two basic things: 1) Why did you neglect O-line for all those years when it was so obvious it was such a need. 2) What, on God's green earth, made you (and Snyder) think it was OK for you to hire assistant coaches before hiring a head coach?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Wow Vinny really is in idiot. I guess he's still basically unemployed, with the exception of a few radio appearances, right? I wish I'd called in. Just listened to some of the audio, and some of the callers gave Vinny softballs...like "why is it so hard to evaluate a college quarterback?"If I could be in the same room as Vinny, all I'd want to know is two basic things: 1) Why did you neglect O-line for all those years when it was so obvious it was such a need. 2) What, on God's green earth, made you (and Snyder) think it was OK for you to hire assistant coaches before hiring a head coach?!?!? Keep listening he was asked both questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostofSparta Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Prediction: Vinny will be working inside the Redskins' organization in some capacity within three years. LsanTLeFf6Y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 He is in Texas with Coach Brown "helping" i guess thats the word u could use Helping him what? Wax his car? Seriously Zorn was way out of his depth as a HC and probably as an OC but he seemed like a real good guy who acted with class. He was naive in how he opened up to the media at times but I did not see or read anything that suggested he was on some ego trip. He was a bad HC undermined by an even worse GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HapHaszard Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 If anyone is interested the audio is here. http://washington.cbslocal.com/2011/03/08/former-redskins-gm-vinny-cerrato-joins-mike-wise-in-studio/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 I guess the best thing about Vinny appearing on 106.7 is that he is guesting on the "opposition" station. If he were on WTEM I'd be more worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolio47 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 If anyone is interested the audio is here. http://washington.cbslocal.com/2011/03/08/former-redskins-gm-vinny-cerrato-joins-mike-wise-in-studio/ I don't think I can bring myself to listen to him speak ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselPwr44 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 I don't hate Vinny, but I agree with most that he has no business running a football franchise. Holy Mackrel! All we need now is for Art to come back and denounce Vinny and I believe that will complete the 7th and last sign........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 The things he should say:I sucked and helped destroy a once great franchise. I have no clue what it takes to be a sucessfull NFL Executive. I was only qualified to be Dan Snyders driver, not a de-facto GM. I cant believe ESPN pays me to be an 'expert" since I am nothing of the sort. Actually, Charlie Casserly and Norv Turner ruined a once great franchise. Synder and Cerrato just kept it ruined and on a occasion make it worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hail2skins Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Snyder and Cerrato are both disingenuous pricks. When Zorn was hired Danny was the one who crowed to the media that he was the one who called Gibbs (of course, to emphasize that if Joe affirmed a decision it had to be legit) and said "I think this guy would be a great head coach!!" Then after two horrible seasons, Snyder claims he wasn't the one who picked Zorn, saying "I'm not a football guy." Pathetic. As far as LKB's prediction, I'm optimistic that Mike will right the ship and will be here for a while. However, I do cringe at thinking of the time when Shanny leaves and if Bruce Allen isn't around to choose the next HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadKarma Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Vinny just said that Joe Gibbs turned the play calling over to Saunders in '06 because of the media. Vinny said that if Gibbs had continued to call plays into '06 he believed they would have gone back to the playoffs. this angers me, I listened to the latter part of the interview and missed this part but if true it really makes me wonder about Gibbs II and just how power wrought an environment we have here at Redskins Park for a legend like Gibbs to buckle under pressure especially media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grego Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 this angers me, I listened to the latter part of the interview and missed this part but if true it really makes me wonder about Gibbs II and just how power wrought an environment we have here at Redskins Park for a legend like Gibbs to buckle under pressure especially media. ya he said that. now, i dont know if gibbs brought in saunders cuz of the media. could be vinny just saying that with his own spin or interpretation of the situation. maybe gibbs just felt like saunders could do a better job of playcalling. who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeCleater8 Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Vinny is still in denial that he ruined our franchise for years to come. He can blame whatever he would like on Zorn and others, but Shanahan wasn't able to do much with the mess that Vinny left in his first year either. For each great move that Vinny claims he made, there are at least 2 bonehead moves to pair with it -- and some of the moves he touted as solid just a few years ago have panned out to be far less (Horton was his favorite example a few years back) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilburmarshall Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 The funny thing is while this may come off as spin, we all knew ALL of this already.There were no other candidates. The horribly bungled coaching search - probably the worst in pro sports history - scared away or missed out on virtually all qualified candidates. They really had no choice but to give Zorn - or some other equally unqualified loser - the job. We all know Zorn didn't listen to Snyder or Cerrato - and why should he have? This isn't news. Steve Largent told us all about how Snyderatto were waving Zorn's contract in front of his face to force him to do things "their" way. He never had a chance and was intended to be a puppet all along. As far as the radio show who the hell knows about that. It was a ridiculous idea and I don't see what it has to do with Zorn. But yeah, we already know Zorn "Black and Maroon" was awful with the media. If anything, Cerrato opening his trap now just confirms what we already know. Nothing new here. There were plenty of other people to hire. Jason Garrett, John Harbaugh, Ron Rivera, Greg Williams, Jim Caldwell, Rex Ryan, Denny Green and Jim Fassel were all available. They all would have done a better job then Zorn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadKarma Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Greg Williams This was the obvious choice, disappointing Snyder let his personal feelings get in the way of THE RIGHT MOVE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeCleater8 Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 This was the obvious choice, disappointing Snyder let his personal feelings get in the way of THE RIGHT MOVE. I thought it was Gregg, with 2 G's - wasn't the running quote that the second G stood for "genius." Passing on Williams was an incredible mistake on the Redskins' part - I had always thought he was the planned Gibbs successor and the locker room definitely supported the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailToTheRedskins14 Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 This guy is such a weasel. I gotta listen to him try to spin that mess of a decade. To blame Zorn's failure on his ego...WTF. The guy is just a decent dude who was in way over his head. He never appeared to be a celebrity wannabe. WTF, Cerrato's the one that was in a movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeen80 Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Vinny just irks me. He just wont go away. Like a virus. Just as I was sort of forgetting about his failures, I heard his name again and got all riled up and angry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Prediction: Vinny will be working inside the Redskins' organization in some capacity within three years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre The Giant Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Actually, Charlie Casserly and Norv Turner ruined a once great franchise. Totally agree ... Everybody always forgets how bad we were during the mid to late 90s. Wasted draft pick after wasted draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
styx491 Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 goodness, he's like a turd that won't flush. :ols: well said, sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysaskin Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Nine pages on this assclown? Seriously, unless I have a chance to kick Vinny in the balls, I don't want to see or hear him. This guy was Millenesque as VP of Football Operations. Anyone who thinks otherwise, I have one sentence for you: "You mean like Sacks and Stuff?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibby Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Redskin fans all together w/ pitch forks united as one, ah its like the night before a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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