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If I could impart one phrase for JD to focus on when times are tough, when the path to victory looks impossible, when things are just going terribly, it would be…

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

”no pressure, no diamonds.”

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*ducks and runs*

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SoCalSkins

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2 hours ago, Llevron said:

Pretty humble kid

 

 

 


That was a great answer. I didn’t expect him to say that. Great sign. Some of my best friends in life I originally did not like at all until I got to know them better. I hope this is one of those cases! 😂 

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1 hour ago, Ghost of said:

 

How long have you been on this board? People latch onto non football or quasi-character things when they discuss QBs especially. That comes with the territory. Tell me what people think about Jay Cutler after his first year or two and his attitude.

 

Were you here for Ramsey and Brunell? Jason Campbell and whatever the hell else we were rolling out? Do you have any memory of how harsh people were towards every aspect of Brunell and Campbell and many other QBs? Social media barely existed back then (or not at all for some of these). I'm sure if Mark had said 'we need to get better" after throwing hospital balls all game, he would have been annihilated. I know, because I couldn't stand the dude. I constantly pointed out how Jason adopted some bad habits after being around him and allowing reporters to give him credit on good things and saying "we" when it should have been me. By the end of Brunell and Campbell, people were done. Haskins (RIP) was giving more overt signs but even there people were questioning the pick based on a non-running QB who seemed to play in a system that inflated numbers and he had a bad attitude on draft night of all nights.  That and a family that seemed to be involved in an unhealthy way.  Sort of like RG3's dad may have been, but probably less harmful to RG3 or the team than people think.

 

Were you on this board when we drafted RG3? I was. There are always detractors and we didn't really have a lot of options after RG3 but I recall people mostly loving the pick and being excited about him as a person (fool me once!) Many of us thought RG3 had a chance to be the best (or most accomplished) QB from 2012.


So when you make these insinuations, it seems like you were born new into the world rather than someone who has intimate experience with what occurred.

 

 


Ghost you posted that I had something to say and I should be clear about it. So I made myself clear. What is the issue now? What am I insinuating? That people don’t like him for non football reasons? Is that incorrect? I don’t see the issue. 
 

What exactly are you intending for me to give you with this back and forth? 

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Captain James

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Welcome Jayden! Looking forward to seeing your skills and gifts translate to the NFL!

To those that are pissy about it: I just don't understand how you can be so sure that this was a bad pick. There's literally no guarantee that ANY player will succeed or bust. To be so disappointed or personally offended that they ignored your choice is a head scratcher. Nobody can predict the future.

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Berggy9598

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2 hours ago, Ghost of said:

I think it's conflicting information from metrics and tape.  They see a guy who has good accuracy (if they've been following) on deep balls but some of our better experts have talked about guys needing to wait on some of those.  They see someone who runs but is, at least according to data we have, pulls down without looking downfield to extend the play via pass (not that he never does but it's more rare than Maye or Williams who run mostly to extend the passing play.)  They see a guy who's ADOT and over the middle throws appear more scarce compared to guys who may run but also are more daring over the middle/intermediate. Same with processing, it could be that JD walked them through pre and post in one-on-ones and blew their socks off.  But I've seen tape breakdowns that call some of that into question (Kurt Warner is one, and he was critical of Maye and McCarthy on different things.)

 

It's also a logical thing. If a guy ran for maybe 3-500 yards and had same passing numbers and maybe dealt with less talented wideouts, you'd say "Ok he's obviously mostly pocket" if the system was pro style.  If a guy ran for 0 and threw for 5,000 you'd say "pocket QB" (Haskins wasn't really a runner, as an example.)  But a guy who sets running records in conjunction with passing is more difficult to assess.  

 

In short, lots of conflicting stuff, great tape, some mediocre/concerning like other prospects, some bad advanced metrics but are those stats actually telling the full story? 

There are dozens if not more highlight reels and full game cut-ups available to the viewing public now a day. It's very hard to watch those and still conclude he's not a good pocket passer, unless someone has already made up their mind and would rather die on that hill. 

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CapsSkins

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1 minute ago, Llevron said:


You coulda let me live with that lie and it would have cost you nothing lol


I think it was pretty clear Belichick preferred Daniels to the other QBs outside of Caleb by listening to his commentary. Honestly, he may have even been more bullish on Jayden than Williams.


Cooley had Jayden as QB1 above Caleb. Belichick clearly felt Maye was a project.

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srtman04

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Welcome to DC young man!!    Ya'll gonna remember this draft as the one we finally transformed this organization ON the field.   What an amazing time to be a Washington fan!!!!

23 minutes ago, CommandB11 said:

Just another reason to know we messed up.

 

Dude WTF is your problem?  

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Berggy9598

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5 minutes ago, Captain James said:

Welcome Jayden! Looking forward to seeing your skills and gifts translate to the NFL!

To those that are pissy about it: I just don't understand how you can be so sure that this was a bad pick. There's literally no guarantee that ANY player will succeed or bust. To be so disappointed or personally offended that they ignored your choice is a head scratcher. Nobody can predict the future.

What gets me is that there seems to be a foregone conclusion that he's just another "running QB". I'm not sure I want to delve into why that foregone conclusion has been reached though cause I'm fairly sure I know the answer. 

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CommandB11

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4 minutes ago, srtman04 said:

Welcome to DC young man!!    Ya'll gonna remember this draft as the one we finally transformed this organization ON the field.   What an amazing time to be a Washington fan!!!!

 

Dude WTF is your problem?  

I would literally be less upset if they had drafted a kicker last night.

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Berggy9598

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2 minutes ago, srtman04 said:

Welcome to DC young man!!    Ya'll gonna remember this draft as the one we finally transformed this organization ON the field.   What an amazing time to be a Washington fan!!!!

 

Dude WTF is your problem?  

My guess is he didn't watch JD a whole lot and as a result has pegged him as a running QB. Sports fandom in the social media era is being right first and supporting the team second. 

1 minute ago, CommandB11 said:

I would literally be less upset if they had drafted a kicker last night.

Will you ever fill us in as to why?

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Just now, Berggy9598 said:

My guess is he didn't watch JD a whole lot and as a result has pegged him as a running QB. Sports fandom in the social media era is being right first and supporting the team second. 

Ok.... i have watched plenty. Dont assume to know me 

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Just now, Berggy9598 said:

My guess is he didn't watch JD a whole lot and as a result has pegged him as a running QB. Sports fandom in the social media era is being right first and supporting the team second. 

Will you ever fill us in as to why?

 I have. Not worth screaming into the crowd of blind optimism anymore.

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CommanderInTheRye

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Just watching these hilights that we’ve all seen before I'm so impressed with Daniels quick processing, but also his instincts as a runner.

 

We are going to be lethal in the red zone. Daniels’ threat as a runner both inside and on the edge  is going to open up things for the passing and running games and it will limit the aggressiveness of attacking defenses. One mistake, one man missing a gap or freelancing and boom just like that he gashes you for 6.

 

I am so excited for what is to come.

 

 

 

 

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