88Comrade2000 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 (edited) If Jayden is the real deal, he’ll be fine with the WR room we have. He’ll make them better. Next year we can make moves if we need to, if the WR fail to perform, The only position we should trade any picks for this year is OT. Edited May 18 by 88Comrade2000 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrFan Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 Another thing that would be good, Jayden can learn if the WR room this year isn’t the best. He can learn to try elevate his play and the play of the WRs. Patrick Mahomes didn’t have that great of a wr room last year but he managed well enough and the Chiefs were still able to win it all. The Chiefs determined the WR room still had a hole and addressed it in the draft. If we determine after the season our WR still has a hole, we will then address next year. Either in free agency or trading for a player or in the draft. We took a WR in the draft and signed one in free agency. Let’s see if they work out. See if Dotson can bounce back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bird_1972 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 1 hour ago, 88Comrade2000 said: Another thing that would be good, Jayden can learn if the WR room this year isn’t the best. He can learn to try elevate his play and the play of the WRs. Patrick Mahomes didn’t have that great of a wr room last year but he managed well enough and the Chiefs were still able to win it all. The Chiefs determined the WR room still had a hole and addressed it in the draft. If we determine after the season our WR still has a hole, we will then address next year. Either in free agency or trading for a player or in the draft. We took a WR in the draft and signed one in free agency. Let’s see if they work out. See if Dotson can bounce back. That's a lot to ask of a rookie on a team that was 2nd worst in the league last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xameil Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 5 hours ago, bird_1972 said: That's a lot to ask of a rookie on a team that was 2nd worst in the league last year. I think alot of us are blaming the coaching staff last year for us being 2nd worst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJL Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 1 hour ago, Xameil said: I think alot of us are blaming the coaching staff last year for us being 2nd worst I'd put as 4th or 5th worst with us having tanked a game or two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srtman04 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 6 hours ago, bird_1972 said: That's a lot to ask of a rookie on a team that was 2nd worst in the league last year. Normally I would agree, but we literally had over 50% roster turnover from last year. This is a completely different team and Jayden Daniels isn't an ordinary rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdaddy Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 On 5/6/2024 at 11:34 AM, redskinss said: Under those circumstances it is possible, I just believe the likelihood is extremely low. Of all the first round picks over the last, let's say 30 years how many have been cut before the start of their second season? I say that not as a rhetorical question but as a real question because I don't know the answer but I would imagine the number is exceptionally low. I agree with your points BUT, how many 1st round picks over the years have been as slight of build combined with as bad on the field as Forbes was? IF just two of these rookie corners step up and look better than Emmanuel Ford throughout camp he COULD be in some trouble. I imagine he'll get every chance to succeed though and I'm confident he'll make a big jump in year 2 under better coaching/scheme. But some of these rookies sound promising too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hangman- C_Hanburger Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 2 hours ago, kingdaddy said: I agree with your points BUT, how many 1st round picks over the years have been as slight of build combined with as bad on the field as Forbes was? IF just two of these rookie corners step up and look better than Emmanuel Ford throughout camp he COULD be in some trouble. I imagine he'll get every chance to succeed though and I'm confident he'll make a big jump in year 2 under better coaching/scheme. But some of these rookies sound promising too... Wonder what his weight is today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris 44 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 19 hours ago, FrFan said: Didnt hear a word he said up until the 17 second mark...then lost him again at 1:00 and 1;11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrFan Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Chris 44 said: Didnt hear a word he said up until the 17 second mark...then lost him again at 1:00 and 1;11 Works fine with me. He said he's happy to be reunited with his favorite coach of all time Norton. DQ tried to get him when he was with the pokes but it didn't work out. Edited May 21 by FrFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 11 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: Na he's done. Completely washed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJL Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 33 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: Na he's done. Completely washed. it's a case of where he can be cleared to play, but he probably won't play effectively if he does if we want to try to rehab an injured tackle Duane Brown is a local Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhd24 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 (edited) If we want to sign a vet tackle, Donovan Smith is the way to go. Edited May 21 by mhd24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris 44 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 5 hours ago, FrFan said: Works fine with me. He said he's happy to be reunited with his favorite coach of all time Norton. DQ tried to get him when he was with the pokes but it didn't work out. LOL, I heard him fine I was alluding to the other individual in the video. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 49ers have both WRs Aiyuk and Jennings missing from OTAs. Think Jennings got the second round RFA tender assigned that he won’t sign. I certainly wouldn’t give up a second, but for a lower draft pick, I’d be very interested. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 1 hour ago, Est.1974 said: 49ers have both WRs Aiyuk and Jennings missing from OTAs. Think Jennings got the second round RFA tender assigned that he won’t sign. I certainly wouldn’t give up a second, but for a lower draft pick, I’d be very interested. I don't see Jennings as anything special, just disgruntled with his contract I guess. He was a 7th round pick and had 19 catches last year. The 49ers grabbing Pearsall at pick 31 hurt Jennings feelings and mine too. I thought he'd be a great pick for us. He also started a run before our pick at 36 that took out a number of WR's that felt like good picks for us, Legette and McConkey being the key other dudes. I'd move to have seem Peters board leading up to 36. I'd think it was filled with WR's and a few T's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, Est.1974 said: 49ers have both WRs Aiyuk and Jennings missing from OTAs. Think Jennings got the second round RFA tender assigned that he won’t sign. I certainly wouldn’t give up a second, but for a lower draft pick, I’d be very interested. EDIT: Statement retracted, my understanding of how G money hits the selling team on a 5th year option was incorrect. Edited May 23 by FootballZombie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderInTheRye Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 (edited) On 5/21/2024 at 12:59 PM, Warhead36 said: Na he's done. Completely washed. You're probably right. But what if we could get Bakhtiari on a vet minimum deal with serious incentives/escalators for playing time, and being on the game day roster? At worst all we'd be out is the vet minimum salary, but if he actually plays well we both win. Of course, he'd have to be amenable to such a deal. . Edited May 23 by CommanderInTheRye 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins 2021 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 (edited) On 5/21/2024 at 12:49 PM, Skinsinparadise said: He won't sign here if he healthy, he will want to go to more of a contender. He will get an incentive based contract but more them vet min. I don't think he is really health thought. Edited May 23 by Redskins 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 36 minutes ago, CommanderInTheRye said: You're probably right. But what if we could get Bakhtiari on a vet minimum deal with serious incentives/escalators for playing time, and being on the game day roster? At worst all we'd be out is the vet minimum salary, but if he actually plays well we both win. Of course, he'd have to be amenable to such a deal. . Is "vet min plus incentives" ever really a thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderInTheRye Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: Is "vet min plus incentives" ever really a thing? I'm not sure I get your meaning here. Are you saying that no player ever excepts such a deal or something else? If it's the former, I would agree that it is a rare occurrence, but when needs and impediments line up it can be a practical option for both parties. In this case, Bakhtiari's injury history has him facing the likely possibility of forced retirement. There's no team out there willing to risk a roster spot and the financial obligation it would usually take to get a player of his pedigree, even at a discount. He needs a desperate team willing to risk his not being able to play at all this year yr oelr perhaps even ever again, just to have a long shot chance that he might be able to play this year and play well--- enter the Commanders. The best marriages sometimes involve serendipity, mutual desperation, and a confluence of needs. Edited May 23 by CommanderInTheRye 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 2 hours ago, Warhead36 said: Is "vet min plus incentives" ever really a thing? It is here yes…. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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