Moving Towards our Future Front Office and Coaching Hires. All the Way to the Water Boy - Adam Peters Hired as GM! The Mighty Quinn is HC Kliff Kingsbury as OC. Joe Whitt jr at DC.

[KDawg]

Just now, Jericho said:

 

I think he meant Lance

He was close. They both have e’s in their names.

[BleedBNG]

18 minutes ago, spjunkies said:

 

What we don't see is him going back to the trash can to retrieve it for the next year.

[mudhog]

2 hours ago, lovemaskins said:

 Kubiak from San Fran is a name I was interested in, 

Speaking of Kubiak, how is it that he's being reported as a lock to go to NOLA as the new OC when he's still in the Super Bowl? I know that no contract has been signed on paper yet, but doesn't that mean that he's still in play for the rest of the teams in the NFL to interview and promote to OC or HC? Just curious. 

[dunfer]

14 minutes ago, mudhog said:

Speaking of Kubiak, how is it that he's being reported as a lock to go to NOLA as the new OC when he's still in the Super Bowl? I know that no contract has been signed on paper yet, but doesn't that mean that he's still in play for the rest of the teams in the NFL to interview and promote to OC or HC? Just curious. 

you can interview during the bye week before the super bowl for super bowl teams i think and if He wants the saints job , his agent just turns down any other requests

[DiscoBob]

1 hour ago, Rex Tomb said:

Oh please.  I’ll take Dan Quinn’s word before I ever take Skip Bayless seriously.  I remember Troy and Joe Buck talking about Whitt during their many telecasts of Cowboys games.  

 

The fact that Skip Bayless doesn't know the guy is a check in the "right guy for the job" column

[mudhog]

1 minute ago, dunfer said:

you can interview during the bye week before the super bowl for super bowl teams i think and if He wants the saints job , his agent just turns down any other requests

Thanks for that. I am totally on board with this FO and am very excited about our future. Warming up to KK as the new OC from what I am reading/hearing about him, but also wanted to interview Kubiak. Though, after waiting to interview BJ and then seeing how easily that can burn precious time, I am glad that the OC pick is settled and we can move on to the staff picks.

[Fan since a Fetus]

A couple of the new people in here are fun

 

 

[HTTRDynasty]

 

[“Misdirection”]

Just so I’m clear, it’s being suggested that hiring the sons of Gary Kubiak and Bob Slowik weren’t already (or wouldn’t be) nepotism hires? 
 

But Kliff Kingsbury and/or Joe Whitt in DC are?

[AlwaysBeRedskins2Me]

2 hours ago, Dexter said:

Skip is the average fan.....he couldn't name 5 back ups on that team.  I certainly wouldn't put any merit into what he thinks about QB play.

I really don't think that's the case. I read his tweets on Sundays. He is very knowledgeable with their players.

1 hour ago, Conn said:

Skip has to pretend to have a half-formed, controversial opinion on every sport under the sun, and pay particular attention to LeBron and the NBA because that’s his brand. Not one of his opinions is well-educated or vetted by a research staff behind the scenes. He’s a hot take specialist, his entire job is to cause clicks on social media. Hate clicks work fine for that. He’s a controversy engine fueled by online engagement. 

 

I highly doubt he watches hardly any NFL games except the high profile night games and highlights. He’s a cowboys fan who throws his Dak jersey in his kitchen garbage can three times every season in a big show, filmed on a cell phone by his wife or whatever. He’s not an analyst and doesn’t watch film. Doesn’t talk to people in the game. 
 

Skip revealing he doesn’t know who this highly regarded defensive assistant on his own team is, is both not surprising and hilariously revealing. 

I sometimes read Skips tweets on Sundays between 1p and 11p. He seems to be watching all the games. I assume that he has NFL Sunday Ticket like me. He often times discusses live action around the league, as it happens.

[CommandB11]

13 minutes ago, “Misdirection” said:

Just so I’m clear, it’s being suggested that hiring the sons of Gary Kubiak and Bob Slowik weren’t already (or wouldn’t be) nepotism hires? 
 

But Kliff Kingsbury and/or Joe Whitt in DC are?

Yes. You are clearly understanding the insanity

[wit33]

2 hours ago, Conn said:

Skip has to pretend to have a half-formed, controversial opinion on every sport under the sun, and pay particular attention to LeBron and the NBA because that’s his brand. Not one of his opinions is well-educated or vetted by a research staff behind the scenes. He’s a hot take specialist, his entire job is to cause clicks on social media. Hate clicks work fine for that. He’s a controversy engine fueled by online engagement. 

 

I highly doubt he watches hardly any NFL games except the high profile night games and highlights. He’s a cowboys fan who throws his Dak jersey in his kitchen garbage can three times every season in a big show, filmed on a cell phone by his wife or whatever. He’s not an analyst and doesn’t watch film. Doesn’t talk to people in the game. 
 

Skip revealing he doesn’t know who this highly regarded defensive assistant on his own team is, is both not surprising and hilariously revealing. 

Skip is everything you said, but dude is a sports nut and extremely well researched—at least he was when I used to watch him and Stephen A together consistently for a few years. 

[Conn]

1 hour ago, AlwaysBeRedskins2Me said:

I really don't think that's the case. I read his tweets on Sundays. He is very knowledgeable with their players.

I sometimes read Skips tweets on Sundays between 1p and 11p. He seems to be watching all the games. I assume that he has NFL Sunday Ticket like me. He often times discusses live action around the league, as it happens.

 

45 minutes ago, wit33 said:

Skip is everything you said, but dude is a sports nut and extremely well researched—at least he was when I used to watch him and Stephen A together consistently for a few years. 

I’m probably not giving him enough credit for actually watching games, and the dude’s entire job should be to absorb sports information, so that makes sense—but he has to develop “takes” on way too much in way too many sports way too quickly to actually be that knowledgeable about the minutia. And I think it shows, and he doesn’t care because either way it’s engagement. A Skip W and a Skip L both count for the same as long as people are talking and arguing about it. The more controversial the better. 
 

Not knowing pivotal Cowboys assistants I would say is a pretty good sign of that. He can go two inches deep and a mile wide, but picks his spots to dive deeper. When ranting off the cuff he says some truly ignorant things 

[petey hodge]

is there a reason this clown wasn’t fired with the rest?!?

[Dark Acre]

It's weird seeing "KK" here.  I know of two guys named KK:  Downing and Rokossovsky.  Both are highly acclaimed in their own particular field.  Go KK!

[CapsSkins]

31 minutes ago, Dark Acre said:

It's weird seeing "KK" here.  I know of two guys named KK:  Downing and Rokossovsky.  Both are highly acclaimed in their own particular field.  Go KK!

 

I need a Photoshop of Kingsbury defending Stalingrad to replace Snyder as Stalin. Hail to the Commies! 😅

 

 

Edited February 6 by CapsSkins

[BrentMeisterGeneral]

I've made no secret that I really wasn't a fan of the DQ hire, that said I was impressed with the presser yesterday, I thought he spoke well and liked his answer about how he's developed since Atlanta. I like his hires at the co ordinator positions and I like that he seems to have a strong relationship with Peters.

 

Cautious reasons for optimism, I hope he proves me wrong for doubting him.

[FrFan]

1 hour ago, BrentMeisterGeneral said:

I've made no secret that I really wasn't a fan of the DQ hire, that said I was impressed with the presser yesterday, I thought he spoke well and liked his answer about how he's developed since Atlanta. I like his hires at the co ordinator positions and I like that he seems to have a strong relationship with Peters.

 

Cautious reasons for optimism, I hope he proves me wrong for doubting him.

I wasn't either, but well what do I know ?

He started real strong with this , and had a few profanity filters off 😂

He said interesting things such as using the word "recalibrated" instead of "rebuild". He learned his lessons from his tenure with the Falcons, this isn't going to be "rince and repeat".

 

This is his staff from 2023.

• Joe Whitt, secondary/Pass Game coordinator
• Al Harris, defensive backs coach
• Aden Durde, defensive line coach
• Sharrif Floyd, quality control/asst. D-line
• Cannon Matthews, asst. defensive backs
• Scott McCurley, linebackers coach
• Pete Ohnegian, quality control/ defensive assistant
• Eric Simonelli, quality control/analytics
• Darian Thompson, quality control/asst. LB
• Rayna Stewart, asst. special teams
• Harold Nash, strength & conditioning coordinator
• Cedric Smith, asst. strength & conditioning
• Kendall Smith, asst. strength & conditioning
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The DC Report: Who is Aden Durde and is he a serious candidate?

 

The Los Angeles Rams are still in search of a defensive coordinator following Raheem Morris’ departure to the Atlanta Falcons. Following Dennard Wilson’s hire by the Tennessee Titans, the Rams now have just two outside candidates remaining in their pool. One of those candidates is of course Brandon Staley and the other is Cowboys defensive line coach, Aden Durde. Durde was the first coach that the Rams requested to interview, meaning that he was clearly somebody that Sean McVay thought highly of as a potential candidate.

 

The question is obviously, how serious of a candidate is he, especially when compared to someone like Brandon Staley who has experience. Durde wasn’t on a lot of people’s lists coming into the interview process and yet was the first person that the Rams requested to interview.

 

Durde comes from the Dan Quinn coaching tree as that’s who he’s coached under since joining the NFL in 2018. The Cowboys defensive line coach started as the defensive quality control coach with the Atlanta Falcons and then was promoted to outside linebackers coach in 2020. It’s fair to note that Durde and Morris were together in Atlanta on the defensive staff. Durde followed Quinn to Dallas where he has been the defensive line coach since 2021.

 

In short, he’s a Quinn disciple and would likely bring with him many elements of that scheme. With that, there’s going to be a lot of Cover 3 principles in the defense. The Rams ran Cover 3 on 32.6 percent of their defensive snaps this season. Comparatively, the Cowboys ran Cover 3 on 41.8 percent of their snaps which was the ninth highest rate in the NFL. According to Cody Alexander of Match Quarters,

“Quinn’s coaching lineage is heavy on the Cover 3 side...Though Quinn carries more of a zone-match Cover 3 philosophy, he loves to run Cover 1. Until this past season, Quinn has run man-free coverages as a dominant scheme alongside Cover 3. Going from man-match to zone principles helps Quinn keep the playbook simple.”

If Durde carries some of that same philosophy as a defensive coordinator, that simplicity for a young defense and what will be a young secondary could end up being beneficial. However, that doesn’t mean that the Cowboys haven’t also made things chaotic for opposing offenses as they’ve been one of the best defenses in the NFL over the past two seasons. Joey Ickes over at Blogging the Boys described the Cowboys defense below,

“But how has Quinn crafted one to the top units in the league? It boils down to two words—chaotic simplicity...Quinn has been able to create this chaos using mostly four or five man pressures and very traditional and sound coverage structures. In fact, of the 207 blitzes the Cowboys ran against the pass in 2022, over 80% were only five man rushes, and another 10% were “simulated” pressures, where a non-defensive lineman rushed, but only four total players actually rushed the passer...Plays like this exist all over the Cowboys tape, defensive linemen slanting, twisting, and stunting in every imaginable direction, combined with individuals winning their matchups, and the result is chaos for offenses.”

That sounds similar to what the Rams did this past season to create pressure. Morris used a lot of simulated pressures with Ernest Jones and it’s why he became one of the best blitzing linebackers in the NFL. This caused the Rams to drop players like Michael Hoecht into coverage, but it created chaos. The stunts along the defensive line are certainly things that Durde would have had a hand in when it comes to the scheme.

 

Under Durde’s coaching, players like Osa Odighizuwa who was a third round pick became a staple along the Cowboys defensive line. Dorance Armstrong was a fourth-round pick and had a career-year this season in Dallas.

The Rams’ best players on defense are on the defensive line when you consider Aaron Donald and Kobie Turner. Bringing in a coach like Durde may be beneficial for someone like Turner’s development as he looks to build on a strong rookie campaign.

On his coaching style, Justin Morris from Blogging the Boys said,

“Durde clearly has a “take no prisoners” type of mentality. His words are distinct due to his intonation, but he doesn’t mince them, and each is used effectively and with force. He’s a tough love kind of mentor, but that doesn’t minimize the visible love that’s present from him to his mentees. He wants success, his knowledge about the game is impressive, and it’s clear that Durde will accept nothing less than that from his big guys in the trenches.”

Durde has been one of the faster rising defensive coaches in the NFL over the last five years as a native of the hybrid and pre/post-snap motion modern defensive era. He was the NFL’s first full-time British coach as he joined the Falcons after leading NFL UK head of football development previously.

With the success of the Cowboys defense, it makes sense that McVay would at least want to get some insight and the pick the brain of someone who was on that defensive staff. While Durde is a fast-rising coach, he may still be a year or two away from being coordinator-ready.

Edited February 6 by FrFan

[MartinC]

2 hours ago, CapsSkins said:

 

I need a Photoshop of Kingsbury defending Stalingrad to replace Snyder as Stalin. Hail to the Commies! 😅

 

 

You get brownie points for knowing who Konstantin Rossokovski was - but Stalingrad was Chuikov. 🙂

[fearlessNelms]

9 hours ago, Andre The Giant said:

 

Now, If NFL referees feel the same we'll really be in business.

[Skinsinparadise]

5 hours ago, Conn said:

 

I’m probably not giving him enough credit for actually watching games, and the dude’s entire job should be to absorb sports information, so that makes sense—but he has to develop “takes” on way too much in way too many sports way too quickly to actually be that knowledgeable about the minutia. And I think it shows, and he doesn’t care because either way it’s engagement. A Skip W and a Skip L both count for the same as long as people are talking and arguing about it. The more controversial the better. 
 

Not knowing pivotal Cowboys assistants I would say is a pretty good sign of that. He can go two inches deep and a mile wide, but picks his spots to dive deeper. When ranting off the cuff he says some truly ignorant things 

 

I used to watdh Skip religiously.  Agree, he is all about hot takes.  But he watches a lot of football.  He can ad lib when asked about a lot of games including this team's games.  It's Stephen Smith back in the day who would hardly watch a thing and it would show.

 

The Dallas stuff I think is pure show.  When we had RG3, he was almost a quasi Redskins fans.  He for years was agnostic as to fav teams and even said he was once a Dallas fan but no more.  And then Stephen Smith seem to build on his Dallas hate and tried to turn it to comedy.  And Skip seemed to do the opposite, billing himseld a big Cowboys fan it seemed for ratings.  Where they seemed to be doing comedy.  And then it just stuck.  I think in reality he's more of an NFL fan than a Cowboys fan.

7 hours ago, HTTRDynasty said:

 

 

Interesting to read how Peters used Kyle and others from SF as a resource for the coaching search and that they gave him a lot of time and help.  I guess Kyle is over his hatred for this organization now that both Bruce and Dan are gone.

[Chris 44]

I didn't know a lot about Quinn until the last couple of weeks, I admittedly was pulled in to the Ben Johnson love fest. The more I have digested what Quinn appears to be about, the more I feel we made the right choice. BJ may be a very good OC but I don't think he would have brought the same passion, connection with staff, coaches and players that Quinn appears to have. Quinn will have the attention of everyone when he walks into a room, he will make guys want to buy in and play hard. Its obvious how badly he wanted this position, its obvious the amount of work he put into readying himself for this job and that's something he has been  preparing for for years now, not just this hiring cycle. The above doesn't even touch on anything to do with the Xs and Os but I its also obvious he has learnt from his past mistakes as a head coach. Something guys with no HC experience will know nothing about. His past experience in this particular case with an all new ownership group and rookie GM seems invaluable. Excited to see if this actually works out, much more comfortable with Quinn than the unknows of a first time HC, especially in this environment.

Edited February 6 by Chris 44

[CjSuAvE22]

Wasn’t excited about Quinn, that being said I’m curious to see how Whitt and Kliff perform.

[RandyHolt]

I was happy to hear players will not be thrown into overly complex schemes. Used to their strengths. Almost like foreign concepts in these Raljoneous parts. .

[FrFan]

2 hours ago, MartinC said:

You get brownie points for knowing who Konstantin Rossokovski was - but Stalingrad was Chuikov. 🙂

Do I get one if I introduce you to commander Kozlowski ?

 

Edited February 6 by FrFan