mudhog

It's funny that you said this about the over/under Vegas odds. I was just thinking last night that I would throw a few bucks down on the over, but at 6.5 wins and nothing more. I don't want to jynx anything, or press my luck on betting a feeling versus Vegas wisdom. No reason to make the line any harder than 6.5

I agree with you that it's aggressive and it would be safer not to go out on the limb and just stick with a middling win count of 7 or 8 games. But if that was the goal of DQ and AP, we NEVER would have signed Bobby Wagner. He could have stayed in Seattle and made more money and have a better core team around him with fewer holes. Sure, his QB would be Sam Howell, but his coach wouldn't be Apathy-Ron. You are also correct about the caliber of talent and amount of holes we had to fill. We are definitely going to have to over-achieve to get to 10 wins and 1 post-season win, but I think it's achievable with the culture change. Just compare this team to 2012 and the amount of talent and change that squad had. 2012 had a better supporting cast at LT and WR and RB. But this roster is close. And it's close to the amount of change that we had in coaching staff, as well as hype for the new QB. This year is going to be electric. These players and coaches are already feeding off that electricity and it will continue to grow once the fan base is plugged in. It's gonna be like watching RG3 for the first time in game 1 against Drew Brees in NOLA, and with that energy, overachieving will be the by-product.

I expect a 10-7 record which either outright wins the NFC east, or gets us the wild-card game. We have the inside scoop on every NFC team (at least for this year) with our new coaching hires. DQ and Witt know Dak Prescott's weaknesses inside and out. Brian Johnson knows Jalen Hurts' offense and players, and Bobby Johnson knows the Giants weaknesses. Sure, schemes will change every year, but we'll never have a bigger advantage than we do NOW. Nobody knows us. Hell, we don't even know us, lol. That in it's self is a big advantage. I expect a similar year to 2012 where we start out slow before the bye, but finish strong thru the end of the season. We now have coaches who are competent. We can produce players, rather than letting them rot. Weather we sign another OT or WR before the season (which I feel we will do one or both), or go with the players on the current roster, we still have upside in many on this roster. Hell, there's 5-6 O-linemen on the roster that have not been released that could be answers for back-up/rotation, or even a starter at T or G. We have Larry 'The Weasel' Izzo as our ST coach. One of the best in the business. With the new rule changes on kickoffs, I expect Izzo's impact to be 3+ to 6+ points per game average, which will give us the edge in the close games we usually lose as a rule. When was the last time we blocked a punt, FG or extra point? I can't even remember. I'm sure it was pre-Danny Smith. I expect the offense to be average or better before the bye, and to finish just outside the top 10. Having competent OC who mixes up the run and pass, along with a dual-threat QB will open up so many more key match-ups because teams will have to use a fast player to spy our QB and play contain on him. At the very least, play-action will be believable. I expect to start and finish the season with a top 10 D. And finally, I expect to win at least one post season game for the first time in forever. It will be fun to come back to this post after the season and see how close it was, or how much of a homer I was, lol. But for once in 3 decades, I have hope.

Well, well, well. Looks like the sun doesn't rise and set outta Howie Roseman's ass after all. Looks like AP beat him to the punch on MRJ, and good for him/us. Looking at his bio, the 4.8 40time stands out vividly, but watching his catch highlights, that kid is special.

I was thinking the same thing. Straight up player swap with no extra pick. Edit: I still think Forbes can be an outstanding CB for us with some quality coaching. As some here have stated, he's not quite the DQ-mold as far as what Dan looks for because of his rail-thin build, and DQ wants heavy hitters. But he is a healthy 1st round CB with elite traits. He's still worth a 1st regardless of weather he fits OUR new system or not.

What have you heard that would suggest Pearl could be done with football? Was he questionable going into the draft?

Could be Kaz Allen, but gut says they keep Crowder instead of Milne

I will say this, if trade rolls across the bottom of the screen, then I know we are getting Jaden. I've felt all along that Maye will be taken at 2, weather by us, or NE.

See, I'm kinda opposite in that I would pick Kingsley because the only DB I would take that early would be Kool-Aid if he fell. I would take my chances that if I missed Ladd at 40, I could grab Persall.

Just curious, if Suamataia, McConkley and Morgan are there at pick 36, Who do YOU take?

Glad to see you give some love to Nathaniel Watson in your power rankings. Kid's raw but is perfect size for MLB. He can cover and stuff the run and is a tackling machine. Fits the mold of what Whitt is looking for on his D.

I don't see Gabriel Murphy on your EDGE list. What's the deal with him? Is he injured or have bad medicals or something? He's all over the board on mock drafts from 3rd round to 7th. But PFF power rankings have him solidly ranked around pick 110.

Got the PM and looked but I don't have Excel. I'm sure that's the problem. Gonna wait till I get with the fam tonight and open it on a different computer with it. Appreciate it GS10! Ahh Ha! That did it. TYVM

PICK: 2 RND: 1 (WSH) Drake MAYE QB North Carolina PROFILE PICK: 36 RND: 2 (WSH) Ladd MCCONKEY WR Georgia PROFILE PICK: 40 RND: 2 (WSH) Kingsley SUAMATAIA OT BYU PROFILE PICK: 67 RND: 3 (WSH) Patrick PAUL OT Houston PROFILE PICK: 78 RND: 3 (WSH) Max MELTON CB Rutgers PROFILE PICK: 100 RND: 3 (WSH) Johnny WILSON WR Florida State PROFILE PICK: 139 RND: 5 (WSH) Tommy EICHENBERG LB Ohio State PROFILE PICK: 152 RND: 5 (WSH) Erick ALL TE Iowa PROFILE PICK: 222 RND: 7 (WSH) Myles HARDEN CB South Dakota

I couldn't get it to open

That's the first Bang cartoon I've seen in 10+ years. Glad to have e'm back. Edit: I just re-read your post and this in not a Bang cartoon. Well, hopefully a new QB on this team will be just the thing Bang needs to start pumping out new video jewels.

Damn GC, that was instantly one of the 3 top highlight reels I have ever watched. I'll be honest, I haven't even considered a RB before the 6th or 7th round because of so many needs that we have and how this draft has so many great players at or near our natural slots. I've found 50+ different ways of addressing our most glaring needs of QB, LT, X-WR, RT, DB, EDGE, G, LB, TE and FS that I've figured RB to be a luxury pick. But after watching that, I really don't see how you could pass him up as an AWESOME offensive weapon. And I'll be willing to bet money that Peters has him on his radar.

This is a beautiful draft. I only wished you doubled up on DB instead of edge. But that said, I love every player in this list.

I would love to see them too. If you find them, please come back to this thread and make a post. Thanks!

Just looking at the 2nd round in that PFF mock, and the players left after our 36 and 40 picks, I would have taken Suamataia and Persall if I were making straight picks. These mock drafters really have no idea about the majority of team's needs and it shows more often than not. The mock that really surprised me was JP Findlay's mock, which just seemed completely underwhelming. Especially for a guy that's plugged-in.

1. Bears take Caleb 2. We take Maye 3. NE takes JJ 4. AZ takes MHJ 5. SD trades with MIN for a haul of picks and MIN takes JD

Wow, I didn't see that coming. Guess he really didn't flash at all when he played.

This is awesome SIP. Thank you! I know that you and GC and the rest of the ES draft-gurus with their own big-boards were talking recently about starting a big-board thread. I'm sure it's a huge amount of work along with things like this post here, not to mention your real life schedule, but have you or anyone decided to actually start one? I'd love to see someone's actual board on here. Even if it's a cut-and-paste thread where folks can see what our OWN educated ES talent evaluators have for themselves. The first and only big-board i've ever seen was the PFF board that was leaked a week after the combine.

What do you think of Nathanial Watson Miss St?