No Nonsense Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 To the people who says that "any goodwill that Josh Harris had is now gone." What exactly were they supposed to do differently? They had to wait on their guy and he stood them up. MacDonald chose Seattle. Slowik chose to stay in Houston. You can't make coaches come here. 9 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinews Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 The vast chasm between the fanbase perception of Q and players/league personnel/media is fascinating. Like polar opposites almost. I'm just curious to see how that dynamic plays out. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 2 minutes ago, No Nonsense said: To the people who says that "any goodwill that Josh Harris had is now gone." What exactly were they supposed to do differently? They had to wait on their guy and he stood them up. MacDonald chose Seattle. Slowik chose to stay in Houston. You can't make coaches come here. I don't think the FO did anything wrong either. But that doesn't mean we still can't be disappointed. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 1 minute ago, formerly4skins said: This made me laugh... We better not trade our #2 pick for Parsons. He's the best out there at his position but we need a QB in the worst way. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 2 minutes ago, RWJ said: We better not trade our #2 pick for Parsons. He's the best out there at his position but we need a QB in the worst way. Neither team would make that trade. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickyJ Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 6 minutes ago, Simmsy said: Any good will the Harris group had is now gone, they've lost a big part of the fanbase right now and has a lot of people on their heels. I don't know how you went from everyone being excited to...this. They better hope this works and works out fast, I've lost all excitement over new ownership. It's been so long since we've won an offseason, I don't blame you for throwing in the towel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrFan Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 3 minutes ago, The Consigliere said: However, here's some alarming trends, far too much like Ron for my liking: Atlanta Day 1 and Day 2 picks under Quinn: Round 1: 4/7 Defensive Players (and all 3 firsts from 2015-2017 were used on defense) Round 2: 4/4 used on defensive players Round 3: 3/6 used on defensive players So 11 of 17 day 1 and day 2 picks were used on defense. Not insane, or anything, the defense was the weakness of those teams, but it does carry a trend line with Ron, especially firsts early on in the tenure. Otoh, how much of that is Quinn, and how much was the GM? I don't know. I read something lately in a tweet from a media pundit implying that Peters will be more hands on the draft than hands off, sorry can't find it back. This is an interesting topic you brought and I hope this FO will give us a hint about the decision process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoBob Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Tell you what..... I'm OK hiring Dan Quinn if the Cowboys hire Ron Rivera.... deal? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrFan Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 1 minute ago, DiscoBob said: Tell you what..... I'm OK hiring Dan Quinn if the Cowboys hire Ron Rivera.... deal? Here you go 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmsy Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 1 minute ago, NickyJ said: It's been so long since we've won an offseason, I don't blame you for throwing in the towel. I want it to work, I really do. However, this is a massively bumbling start to the off season. As soon as the off season begins, our dysfunction is making national headlines again. I'm willing to call it an anomaly, an off shoot, whatever, it still doesn't make me feel good about their ability to do this correctly at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 11 minutes ago, RWJ said: I saw one of Dallas's CBs post about Al Harris as DC on Twitter. I could see it. This is Al Harris talking to Schefter... 8 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 8 minutes ago, RWJ said: We better not trade our #2 pick for Parsons. He's the best out there at his position but we need a QB in the worst way. Dan and Vinny are gone and Jerrah’s not that stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 (edited) 18 minutes ago, The Consigliere said: I'm just not a fan. It's not horrible, its obvious he's at worst an average coach which is better than any coach we've had since Shanny, and really better than any coach we've had the past 30 years other than Shanny and Gibbs, but it's still highly unlikely he's "special", and not many coaches win or build consistently contending teams that are just average, or a little better. Having some fun in response to you are your record case closed rap, nothing personal. 😎 How can he be worse than Shanahan? He was well below average record wise here -- along with his joke staff, Kyle, McDaniel, Sean and company, all losers. Record is what it is, they needed to wear it. Gibbs ditto. Yeah Gibbs had a nice run initially. But in Gibbs' 2nd stint he didn't match Quinn's record so can we really say he's a better coach? Peters needs to get his head on straight if he can't read a record like the rest of us can, by simply spending two minutes on football reference where we can look up someone's record and define a head coaches prospects in a heartbeat. Shame on them for all these dumb interviews they do with these guys. Waste of time. Peters needs to join the 21st Century and understand that there is a thing called the Internet. He needs to look these guys up. Edited February 1 by Skinsinparadise 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris 44 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 29 minutes ago, Lombardi's_kid_brother said: Why? Dallas beat us by a combined score of 176-3. Seriuosly?...why wouldn't you. Not interested in hearing how he attacked Howell, EBs playcalling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaper Skins Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 We've had 20+ years of Snyder telling the fanbase every offseason that there's one special guy who's gonna come in and totally transform our franchise, and wipe away all the past ineptitude in one clean, instantaneous swipe. It doesn't work like that. It didn't work for Mike Shanahan, it didn't work for RG3, it didn't work for Chase Young, it didn't work for culture change Ron Rivera. It wouldn't have worked for Ben Johnson. It's not gonna work with whoever we take at number 2 this year in the draft. The fanbase needs to get out of the mindset of swinging for the fences and expecting a lottery ticket to fix everything. Rather than striking out on homeruns, I'm gonna sit back and start being happy with singles and doubles for the next few years. Dan Quinn isn't perfect but I do still think he's better than what we had. I'll be curious to see who we get for OC, and I expect if nothing else, the bottom half of our roster and special teams to be significantly upgraded over the next 2 seasons. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrFan Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 9 minutes ago, sinews said: The vast chasm between the fanbase perception of Q and players/league personnel/media is fascinating. Like polar opposites almost. I'm just curious to see how that dynamic plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 (edited) Composite of the fan base reaction to today's news. Edited February 1 by SkinsFTW 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 18 minutes ago, Simmsy said: Any good will the Harris group had is now gone, they've lost a big part of the fanbase right now and has a lot of people on their heels. I don't know how you went from everyone being excited to...this. They better hope this works and works out fast, I've lost all excitement over new ownership. Is this satire? 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 12 minutes ago, No Nonsense said: To the people who says that "any goodwill that Josh Harris had is now gone." What exactly were they supposed to do differently? They had to wait on their guy and he stood them up. MacDonald chose Seattle. Slowik chose to stay in Houston. You can't make coaches come here. They were not interested in Slowik according to multiple reporters. Quinn was a serious candidate from the jump. for those not spending time on this thread, I gather its a shock. But those following the process, Quinn was a serious candidate from the start. 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoBob Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Just now, BatteredFanSyndrome said: Is this satire? I think this is an example of your screen name.... but yes, it is crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 7 minutes ago, FrFan said: I read something lately in a tweet from a media pundit implying that Peters will be more hands on the draft than hands off, sorry can't find it back. This is an interesting topic you brought and I hope this FO will give us a hint about the decision process. Well, his whole background in the league is scouting, so it makes sense he would be hands on with the draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Well ...at least it's not Raheem Morris. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayouBrave86 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 5 minutes ago, Reaper Skins said: We've had 20+ years of Snyder telling the fanbase every offseason that there's one special guy who's gonna come in and totally transform our franchise, and wipe away all the past ineptitude in one clean, instantaneous swipe. It doesn't work like that. It didn't work for Mike Shanahan, it didn't work for RG3, it didn't work for Chase Young, it didn't work for culture change Ron Rivera. It wouldn't have worked for Ben Johnson. It's not gonna work with whoever we take at number 2 this year in the draft. The fanbase needs to get out of the mindset of swinging for the fences and expecting a lottery ticket to fix everything. Rather than striking out on homeruns, I'm gonna sit back and start being happy with singles and doubles for the next few years. Dan Quinn isn't perfect but I do still think he's better than what we had. I'll be curious to see who we get for OC, and I expect if nothing else, the bottom half of our roster and special teams to be significantly upgraded over the next 2 seasons. The Houston Texans say hi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 I know we all built ourselves up into believing this was a great destination, but clearly the market said otherwise. We still have a crap stadium filled with opposing fans, crap facilities and a crap roster. Much of that won’t be fixed until at least the next coach gets hired. Beyond that, I think it says that these young guns don’t see a slam dunk QB prospect available either. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayouBrave86 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 This front office and ownership got absolutely played, like they have since the early 90s. All I know is pain with this franchise. My first memory isn’t even the SB win against the Bills. It’s a 3-0 loss to the Jets at home 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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