Rufus T Firefly Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Conn said: He was bad and stewarded a horrendous locker room in Miami while he was there, no thanks. I won't agree that "bad" is the proper way to label his tenure. He got decent results with not a lot. But yeah, all the talk since he left is that players didn't like playing for him, the locker room was getting out of control and that they had to move on from him to salvage Tua's career. The bloom is off the rose on his HC prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 I just want a Head Coach that gives us some kind of advantage on gamedays. Doesn't necessarily have to be an offensive guy, although that is the current trend, but I actually think we could potentially be a trend setter if we went for a young defensive guru that could possibly counter all the offense out there and really maximize our talent on that side of the ball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samy316 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Warhead36 said: I just want a Head Coach that gives us some kind of advantage on gamedays. Doesn't necessarily have to be an offensive guy, although that is the current trend, but I actually think we could potentially be a trend setter if we went for a young defensive guru that could possibly counter all the offense out there and really maximize our talent on that side of the ball. No. Unless the defensive coach we hire is a DeMeco Ryan’s, I want nothing to do with DC’s who are angling to become HC’s, especially if we draft a QB down the road, or we stick with Howell. I want the best young offensive mind we can find, and pair them with our QB. DC’s that become HC’s don’t work in today’s NFL. Unless you’re Mike Tomlin or Bill Belichick, chances are that you won’t be an HC that can bring your team into contention. Today’s league is offensively oriented and slanted, so why would we be the team to break that mold? Especially with talented HC’s in the league like Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVay, Mike McDaniel and Andy Reid? We already have a team built mainly in the defensive mold, and you see the current results. Even if we had a much better DC, no defense in today’s NFL is stopping Pat Mahommes/Andy Reid or any other talented QB/HC combo. Edited October 25, 2023 by samy316 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 Lions OC Ben Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stihl89 Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 Has to be an offensive guy. If it’s not the OC is good and is hired away and the offense falls off the face of the earth. Your HC HAS to be of the offensive variant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxSpearheadxX Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 (edited) It seems the only way to have an offensive design that sticks around for 4 plus years is to have an HC involved in offensive design. It's too important for the growth of QBs I'm a defensive minded guy also but QB and skill position rythym and design is more important to have continuity Edited October 26, 2023 by XxSpearheadxX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bantu Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 This may be out of context on the 5th page of this thread, but to the original question my answer is this: Whomever the new GM sees fit to coach the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 I'd like to have anybody that is currently not on this coaching staff/front office. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 Ejiro Evero the DC of the Panthers and Denver last year would make a good HC choice fro what I've read. Other than him, I want an OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskinscub Posted October 26, 2023 Author Share Posted October 26, 2023 Whomever we get, I hope they are Fan centric 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Redskinscub said: Whomever we get, I hope they are Fan centric how is a head coach supposed to be fan-centric? Don’t get me wrong, we could poll the crowd at games for playcalls and do better than the current crew. But I don’t get how the head coach himself is supposed to be fan-centric. His job is to coach. And the GM’s job will be to build the roster and manage its assets. I’m guessing the guy you’re looking for will be on the business side. Probably Wright’s replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Tomb Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 5 hours ago, Koolblue13 said: Ejiro Evero the DC of the Panthers and Denver last year would make a good HC choice fro what I've read. Other than him, I want an OC. Get the guy from Miami! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskinscub Posted October 27, 2023 Author Share Posted October 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Conn said: how is a head coach supposed to be fan-centric? Don’t get me wrong, we could poll the crowd at games for playcalls and do better than the current crew. But I don’t get how the head coach himself is supposed to be fan-centric. His job is to coach. And the GM’s job will be to build the roster and manage its assets. I’m guessing the guy you’re looking for will be on the business side. Probably Wright’s replacement. It was said tongue in cheek. If you remember when paddleboat Ron was hired, they wanted the organization to be coach centric. That obviously has not worked 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bird_1972 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 I think a better question than who we want as the next coach, is who do we want as the next GM... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 22 hours ago, Conn said: I’m guessing the guy you’re looking for will be on the business side. Probably Wright’s replacement. Interestingly, I was thinking just the other day we haven’t heard a peep from Jason. Unless I missed something, not a single little peep. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsGuy Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, Voice_of_Reason said: Interestingly, I was thinking just the other day we haven’t heard a peep from Jason. Unless I missed something, not a single little peep. I think Harris has already decided what he's going to do when this season ends. It was too late to make changes when he acquired the team, but those changes are coming. He's just biding his time, I think. There was a report, I think either the week of the Bills or Bears blowout games, that he was seen up in the box drinking and laughing. That upset some people, but I don't think it's because he doesn't care. Harris, I believe, has checked out on these coaches, and is waiting for the time to drop the hammer on them and maybe the whole front office as well. 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 I liked the idea of Ben Johnson last season and was glad he didn’t take a HC job this year. If we can’t get him, another name I’d throw out there is Bobby Slowick. Currently the OC in Houston in his first year and doing nice things with Stroud. Before that he had several years working with Kyle in SF. Got his start here in 2011 as a defensive assistant. Grew up in the game as his father was a coach in the league including here as a linebacker’s coach. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, SkinsGuy said: I think Harris has already decided what he's going to do when this season ends. It was too late to make changes when he acquired the team, but those changes are coming. He's just biding his time, I think. There was a report, I think either the week of the Bills or Bears blowout games, that he was seen up in the box drinking and laughing. That upset some people, but I don't think it's because he doesn't care. Harris, I believe, has checked out on these coaches, and is waiting for the time to drop the hammer on them and maybe the whole front office as well. 🤔 I'm going to have to disagree that it was "too late" to make changes when the sale becomes final. Snyder agreed to sell him the team in May, four months before the season. He could have (should have) been doing is reaching out to candidates to take over football operations before it became official in July, nearly two months before the season. He should have been researching and considering potential candidates before then. Would have given the new guy the year to assess (in particular being close tot he team gives you a chance tp appraise players' characters and such), as well as giving him an early start on filling out the whole FO before the offseason. And, obviously, that person would be in position to take of this trade deadline which could/should be a chance to build for the future. It actually becomes an issue hiring front office types after he season became teams don't want to release people from contacts who have worked on their draft boards. This isn't unforgivable sin or anything, and I'm not making a huge deal about it or anything. But it was a missed opportunity and therefore a mistake, imo. 1 hour ago, Ball Security said: I liked the idea of Ben Johnson last season and was glad he didn’t take a HC job this year. If we can’t get him, another name I’d throw out there is Bobby Slowick. Currently the OC in Houston in his first year and doing nice things with Stroud. Before that he had several years working with Kyle in SF. Got his start here in 2011 as a defensive assistant. Grew up in the game as his father was a coach in the league including here as a linebacker’s coach. Would be yet another member of the Mike S staff here to get a HC job. Edited October 27, 2023 by Rufus T Firefly 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 34 minutes ago, Rufus T Firefly said: I'm going to have to disagree that it was "too late" to make changes when the sale becomes final. Snyder agreed to sell him the team in May, four months before the season. He could have (should have) been doing is reaching out to candidates to take over football operations before it became official in July, nearly two months before the season. He should have been researching and considering potential candidates before then. Would have given the new guy the year to assess (in particular being close tot he team gives you a chance tp appraise players' characters and such), as well as giving him an early start on filling out the whole FO before the offseason. And, obviously, that person would be in position to take of this trade deadline which could/should be a chance to build for the future. It actually becomes an issue hiring front office types after he season became teams don't want to release people from contacts who have worked on their draft boards. This isn't unforgivable sin or anything, and I'm not making a huge deal about it or anything. But it was a missed opportunity and therefore a mistake, imo. Would be yet another member of the Mike S staff here to get a HC job. Ron has that authority. Do, he couldn’t bring someone in to go front office moves this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, 88Comrade2000 said: Ron has that authority. Do, he couldn’t bring someone in to go front office moves this year. The owner isn't allowed to hire someone new to be the head of football operations? LOL. Nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Ball Security said: I liked the idea of Ben Johnson last season and was glad he didn’t take a HC job this year. If we can’t get him, another name I’d throw out there is Bobby Slowick. Currently the OC in Houston in his first year and doing nice things with Stroud. Before that he had several years working with Kyle in SF. Got his start here in 2011 as a defensive assistant. Grew up in the game as his father was a coach in the league including here as a linebacker’s coach. Yep. I think both Slowik and Drew Petzig are guys who should be considered. I’m impressed by how competitive the AZ offense has been so far with Dobbs and, if Kyler plays well, his stock will go higher. With Slowik, I am curious about his personality. He worked for PFF - is he just a smart analytical dude or is he a leader too? 42 minutes ago, Rufus T Firefly said: I'm going to have to disagree that it was "too late" to make changes when the sale becomes final. Snyder agreed to sell him the team in May, four months before the season. He could have (should have) been doing is reaching out to candidates to take over football operations before it became official in July, nearly two months before the season. He should have been researching and considering potential candidates before then. Would have given the new guy the year to assess (in particular being close tot he team gives you a chance tp appraise players' characters and such), as well as giving him an early start on filling out the whole FO before the offseason. And, obviously, that person would be in position to take of this trade deadline which could/should be a chance to build for the future. It actually becomes an issue hiring front office types after he season became teams don't want to release people from contacts who have worked on their draft boards. This isn't unforgivable sin or anything, and I'm not making a huge deal about it or anything. But it was a missed opportunity and therefore a mistake, imo. Would be yet another member of the Mike S staff here to get a HC job. This take doesn’t make sense. You really can’t get a guy to leave his job in the summer right before the season. He is not going to be able to bring his staff too. You would be limiting yourselves to guys outside of football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 10 minutes ago, method man said: This take doesn’t make sense. You really can’t get a guy to leave his job in the summer right before the season. He is not going to be able to bring his staff too. You would be limiting yourselves to guys outside of football You can't get people to take a promotion to one of the 32 most coveted Front Office positions in the NFL in July? Are you serious? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDibbs31 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Ben Johnson or Ken Dorsey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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