illone Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 47 minutes ago, MrJL said: from the way most people talk if we actually prefer Daniels to Maye we could trade back a few spots No point, if Daniels is the guy you just take him at #2 as it's way too crowded at the top. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyst Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 There is no way Chicago should keep Fields. Sucks for us but he just isn’t good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 On 10/9/2023 at 9:43 AM, MartinC said: We are not going to be in the Maye or Williams stakes. Yes, it’s been a hell of a few months. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovi Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 If they are retaining their head coach, would they want to start over with a new rookie qb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Just now, Lovi said: If they are retaining their head coach, would they want to start over with a new rookie qb? The million dollar question. One could also argue that Eburflus inherited Fields and now the org wants to give him a reset with a new QB... There are lots of angles to this damn thing 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovemaskins Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 33 minutes ago, Conn said: Point taken @Renegade7 One last point from your post I want to address separately… Your comment about the Wizards ownership change shows you just don’t understand what people are excited about, in a way. Not really. And it would explain a lot about your mood right now. Maybe it’s because you, as an “eternal optimist” in your own words, never fully allowed yourself to understand and give in to how hopeless things were under Snyder. The big thing here is that people aren’t excited and hopeful because they think it’s guaranteed or destined that Harris is a great owner (though that would be awesome). Snyder was SO historically, epically, cosmically, karmically, stupefyingly bad that literally nothing could work here. He would mess everything up, his management style and the people he attracted could not be overcome. There was NO hope. Harris is hope personified even if he’s just an average (or even regularly bad) owner because just by not being Snyder, we have a chance to experience what other fanbases take for granted. Any draft pick could be a superstar. Any year we could go on a run. Maybe we build something real and lasting, maybe not. But things can develop and grow and proceed like a normal sports franchise…and if it doesn’t work, there will be normal expected accountability and regime change and something new and different WILL be tried. And maybe that next thing will work. Or maybe it won’t. But it will always be worth having hope that it COULD, because we will be a normal functional organization. Because there won’t be a rotting snake at the head of the organization tarnishing everything. For you to comment that just because we have a new owner, it doesn’t mean things will necessarily change—it really betrays a sincere and foundational misunderstanding of why we had no hope under Snyder. Which, again, could actually be because you remained such an eternal optimist under Snyder. You never really let it sink in how pointless being a fan was, during that era. And that’s the fundamental difference NOW that people are celebrating—not some guarantee of success. Waxing a bit poetic hey Conn! Great post! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 @Conn I lost count how many threads folks posted on they wouldn't come back until Snyder was gone. The idea of leaving too instead of defending us still having scandals of sexual assault in front of Congress or supposedly taking Cheerleaders passports and asking them to mingle with big rollers on an island to my toddler daughters. They could be winning and I was still ready to go, they too little to ask questions like that, but it was comin and winning would not of kept me here. Winning can do somethings not having a plan can't when sports is supposed to be a distraction in life. But there are some things not even winning can overcome. I still em, but the Wizards are the most irrelevant Big 4 team in this city. Leonsis getting the team from Abe didn't change that. Upgrading the Commanders to a franchise that isn't toxic anymore finally halted that nose dive into that territory. I do feel a kinda way the perception of not trying to salvage anything on this team during this transition year, it's hard enough to develop talent here as it is, new or not, the whole team regressed this year and they jus watched it happen, trying too hard my option to avoid looking like meddling owners. I get it, don't believe it was worth it, but that was a business decision that will pay off for Harris. I don't expect our play development facilities and capabilities become state of the art overnight, sometimes i wonder why they could even start with that without looking up to something. I won't agree with anything that resembles the process, I jus don't believe it could work in NFL anyway like NBA results, so don't see us trying that to be concerned about it. His new analytics dude should of been told him that by now. I'll feel much calmer once I see how front office is structured, I respect the he'll outta what Wizards are doing right now...those games are sometimes over before 1st quarter is over, but if you believe in their plan I can believe in their scorched earth losing this season to fix the cap sitaution for moving Beal Show me something growing for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatNFLChick Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 So are most agreeing with this? Williams - Ceiling is Patrock Mahomes Maye - Ceiling is Josh Allen or Justin Herbert? Daniels - Ceiling is Lamar Jackson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYSkins21 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 hour ago, Skins199021 said: Only way we trade back is if its with the Cardinals and we just want 1 of the top 3 QBs That won’t happen. No incentive for Cards to deal anything when they know we’re taking a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 8 minutes ago, ThatNFLChick said: So are most agreeing with this? Williams - Ceiling is Patrock Mahomes Maye - Ceiling is Josh Allen or Justin Herbert? Daniels - Ceiling is Lamar Jackson Similar playstyles but idk bout their ceilings 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYSkins21 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 9 minutes ago, ThatNFLChick said: So are most agreeing with this? Williams - Ceiling is Patrock Mahomes Maye - Ceiling is Josh Allen or Justin Herbert? Daniels - Ceiling is Lamar Jackson Being compared to Josh Allen, it will be interesting to see if Maye’s perceived value ticks up if Josh Allen plays well and the Bills go deep into the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Josh Allen isn’t who I would’ve thought of as the NFL comp for Drake Maye. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 I don't believe Fields believes he'll be back... https://www.reddit.com/r/CHIBears/s/oQIa3tPmbB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxprodigyxx Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 so many analysts are mocking us as trading up for the #1. i hope this doesn't happen. i don't want it to happen. we need all our picks this year and next. if they do this...they'd better be damn sure. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Just now, Sacks 'n' Stuff said: Josh Allen isn’t who I would’ve thought of as the NFL comp for Drake Maye. Josh Allen thinks he's bigger size wise then he actually is the way he runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 minute ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said: Josh Allen isn’t who I would’ve thought of as the NFL comp for Drake Maye. Yeah I think Herbert with more mobility is a good comp. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 minute ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said: Josh Allen isn’t who I would’ve thought of as the NFL comp for Drake Maye. Yeah, I've seen a couple people post it here, but I don't see it. I see Burrow, or more Herbert. Not Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 12 minutes ago, ThatNFLChick said: So are most agreeing with this? Williams - Ceiling is Patrock Mahomes Maye - Ceiling is Josh Allen or Justin Herbert? Daniels - Ceiling is Lamar Jackson Yeah I would probably agree on Williams with Mahomes, though I'd say closer to a "poor man's Mahomes". Not because Williams sucks, but because Mahomes is such a transcendent talent. Maye I can see Herbert but not Allen. IMO Maye doesn't have all that much in common with Allen. Daniels has been a far superior passer to Lamar as far as college, but Lamar is the superior runner. Which is fine with me. Lamar is a running QB and I want one who absolutely can run, and do it well, but who will be a pass first guy in the NFL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srtman04 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 I think Maye is comparable to Justin Herbert....both are big and tall, both have cannons for arms....and both kinda look similar to each other physically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 3 minutes ago, xxprodigyxx said: so many analysts are mocking us as trading up for the #1. i hope this doesn't happen. i don't want it to happen. we need all our picks this year and next. if they do this...they'd better be damn sure. Take everything they're saying with a tablespoon of salt. Our decision makers for that department aren't even in the park yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mh86 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 2 minutes ago, Rufus T Firefly said: Yeah, I've seen a couple people post it here, but I don't see it. I see Burrow, or more Herbert. Not Allen. I’d lean more Trevor Lawerence myself, but I’ve watched very little of Maye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins 2021 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 I could see the Bears taking Maye instead of Williams. Williams and Fields are similar. They may want more of a drop back passer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatNFLChick Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 5 minutes ago, Rufus T Firefly said: Yeah, I've seen a couple people post it here, but I don't see it. I see Burrow, or more Herbert. Not Allen. Definitely not Burrow. I don't get that comp at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 The Bears, after analyzing their choices and suffering traumatic flashbacks of taking Trubisky over Mahomes, will draft Caleb Williams. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 23 minutes ago, ThatNFLChick said: So are most agreeing with this? Williams - Ceiling is Patrock Mahomes Maye - Ceiling is Josh Allen or Justin Herbert? Daniels - Ceiling is Lamar Jackson I can see this with playing styles but I think people wanting Daniels to be Lamar Jackson are gonna be disappointed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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