Trump on Trial (Trump indicted for a fourth time in Georgia. Expands his record of most indictments by a former president)

[tshile]

1 hour ago, Fergasun said:

He can technically go up there, state, "I did not have sex with that woman" and then plead the 5th on everything else asked - right?  

(edit: this is my understanding but I may be wrong, not a lawyer)

There are rules about that. You don’t get to get on the stand and say what you want to say and then plead the 5th to everything else. 
 

I’m not sure of the specifics

Edited May 9 by tshile

[Califan007 The Constipated]

36 minutes ago, stoshuaj said:

if that’s the case, couldn’t Mrs Trump be compelled to testify as to the validity of some of Ms. Clifford’s statements?

 

If nothing else, I would be compelled to think that would be worth an entire bucket of popcorn.

 

 

 

 

 

[PokerPacker]

51 minutes ago, stoshuaj said:

if that’s the case, couldn’t Mrs Trump be compelled to testify as to the validity of some of Ms. Clifford’s statements?

 

If nothing else, I would be compelled to think that would be worth an entire bucket of popcorn.

I'm think a person cannot be compelled to testify against their spouse.  That said, if Trump goes to prison, does Melania stand to gain?

[Larry]

26 minutes ago, PokerPacker said:

That said, if Trump goes to prison, does Melania stand to gain?

 

Something other than the absence of Trump?  And probably emotional satisfaction?  

[Fergasun]

@tshile

@Larry

 

My understanding is as Larry states.  He can deny the incident happened, but then it opens him up to questioning on that topic and he probably can't invoke the 5th when it comes to his relationship with Stormy.

 

Then prosecution than can also ask him a thousand other questions related to the facts of the trial and he can plead thr fifth.

[LadySkinsFan]

1 hour ago, PokerPacker said:

I'm think a person cannot be compelled to testify against their spouse.  That said, if Trump goes to prison, does Melania stand to gain?

 

I'm sure that's in the latest version of their pre-nup. For big bucks.

[PokerPacker]

6 minutes ago, LadySkinsFan said:

 

I'm sure that's in the latest version of their pre-nup. For big bucks.

I wonder if that would be legally binding.

[LadySkinsFan]

Just now, PokerPacker said:

I wonder if that would be legally binding.

 

I'm willing to bet that Melania has better lawyers than Trump!

[TheGreatBuzz]

2 hours ago, LadySkinsFan said:

 

I'm sure that's in the latest version of their pre-nup. For big bucks.

 

Does he have big bucks to take?

[skinsmarydu]

3 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said:

 

Does he have big bucks to take?

I don't believe he does. 

Said he was running in '16 on his own dime, then sold the hell outta hats and flags and all kinds of dumb t-shirts to fund his campaign. 

He's flat-ass broke, can't pay his legal fees without asking his booger-eating morons to help. 

[LadySkinsFan]

2 hours ago, TheGreatBuzz said:

 

Does he have big bucks to take?

 

Her pre-nup money is probably in a trust. That's the way I'd do it. And that's probably one reason why he doesn't have any money. Probably a trust for Barron too. Melania is probably as big a grifter as Trump.

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[PleaseBlitz]

17 hours ago, Fergasun said:

@tshile

@Larry

 

My understanding is as Larry states.  He can deny the incident happened, but then it opens him up to questioning on that topic and he probably can't invoke the 5th when it comes to his relationship with Stormy.

 

Then prosecution than can also ask him a thousand other questions related to the facts of the trial and he can plead thr fifth.

 

You can plead the 5th to invoke your right to no self-incriminate.  Trump having an extramarital affair with a pornstar is not a crime.  It's reprehensible and is the kind of conduct that, in a sane world, would disqualify someone from have a realistic shot at the Presidency, but it's not a crime in the US.  In any event, even if he denied the affair, the jury would still be assessing the validity of his claims versus Stormy's and their respective credibility (and the defense would get to bring forth evidence that Trump is a big fat liar, which is well-documented), so that would be like stepping on a million rakes.   What he really needs is someone else who was there (Big Ben maybe) to say he/she was with Trump the whole time and the encounter didn't occur.  That could potentially happen when the defense presents its case. 

 

Bigger picture, Trump's legal team would never, in a million years, allow him to take the stand in this case.  If he did, the prosecution has the right to cross examine him, and there are so many angles they could attack him from.  Further, Trump is entirely undisciplined, and there is 100% chance the prosecution would be able to get him to admit wrongdoing (likely after they wore his old feeble ass down with a few hours of "boring" testimony about minutiae) because he is an arrogant stupid asshole with a pathological urge to look like a tough guy.  

Edited May 10 by PleaseBlitz

[TheGoodBits]

16 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said:

Further, Trump is entirely undisciplined, and there is 100% chance the prosecution would be able to get him to admit wrongdoing (likely after they wore his old feeble ass down with a few hours of "boring" testimony about minutiae) because he is an arrogant stupid asshole with a pathological urge to look like a tough guy.  

Tell us how you really feel. 

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[Cooked Crack]

Why arent Trump supporters supporting the constitution? Locking Trump up should be universal now that he wants it.

[BringMetheHeadofBruceAllen]

2 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said:

Why arent Trump supporters supporting the constitution? Locking Trump up should be universal now that he wants it.

 

Why arent Trump supporters supporting the constitution? Locking Trump up should be universal now that he wants it.

 

I have a real problem with this too, it's like a collective hysteria has descended on these people who no longer support the rule of law first and foremost, and instead don't care as long as it gets "their boy" into power. I wonder if, a few years from now, any of them will ever admit to being wrong...or will they be on their deathbeds years from now still saying that Trump won in 2020?

 

[China]

Judge Merchan orders Michael Cohen to keep quiet about Trump after he posted mocking video

 

Former President Donald Trump's lawyers won a concession from Judge Juan Merchan on Friday when he ordered former "fixer" Michael Cohen to stop publicly mocking the former president for the duration of the Manhattan hush-money trial.

 

As reported by legal journalist Adam Klasfeld, Trump lawyer Todd Blanche at the end of Friday's hearing brought up Cohen posting anti-Trump videos on TikTok despite the fact that in the past he had been ordered to stop doing so.

 

Manhattan Assistant District Attorney Joshua Steinglass informed Merchan that he has "repeatedly, repeatedly" told Cohen to knock it off, but he said ultimately prosecutors can't control witnesses.

 

Merchan then told Steinglass and his team to inform Cohen that he personally is directing Cohen to refrain from making public statements about the case until its conclusion.

 

"That comes directly from the bench," he emphasized.

[China]

 

[Larry]

5 hours ago, BringMetheHeadofBruceAllen said:

 

Why arent Trump supporters supporting the constitution? Locking Trump up should be universal now that he wants it.

 

I have a real problem with this too, it's like a collective hysteria has descended on these people who no longer support the rule of law first and foremost, and instead don't care as long as it gets "their boy" into power. I wonder if, a few years from now, any of them will ever admit to being wrong...or will they be on their deathbeds years from now still saying that Trump won in 2020?

 

 

 

[mistertim]

I can just imagine a prosecutor licking his/her chops at the idea of being able to cross examine a defendant who is essentially a human shaped lying machine with no off button.

 

And I doubt it would take hours to get him to admit wrongdoing. I think he'd unwittingly do it within 30 minutes.

Edited May 11 by mistertim

[AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy]

6 hours ago, BringMetheHeadofBruceAllen said:

I wonder if, a few years from now, any of them will ever admit to being wrong...or will they be on their deathbeds years from now still saying that Trump won in 2020?

 

Is this a serious question?

[skinsmarydu]

22 minutes ago, mistertim said:

And I doubt it would take hours to get him to admit wrongdoing. I think he'd unwittingly do it within 30 minutes.

His oath would be a lie in itself, as was the one he took on the Capitol steps...you know, the one he told his followers to "take back".

[Fergasun]

Nothing on the Weisselberg tea from today? 

 

Apparently there is a contract for $750k for him to not cooperate with prosecutors.  The state wants to introduce the contract to explain why he is not testifying.  But they didn't subpoena him either.  Could be some juicy hearing next week....