El Mexican Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 There's a lot of discussion around the web about this subject. From really complex indexes to the 50 year-old passer rating system the NFL uses. I've always viewed either Yards per Attempt (YPA) or Yards per Completion (YPC) as the most relevant indicator of a good QB. The higher the number the more probability we have of a balanced game-plan since our QB is passing the right amount of times and doing some damage on the opposing D. No dinks and doinks that serve no purpose but to artificially inflate the total completion %. Case in point with QBs who had at least 100 pass attempts during 2022: Tua T led the League with 8.9 YPA Sam Darnold - 8.2 Mahomes - 8.1 Purdy - 8.1 Hurts - 8 Jimmy G - 7.9 Tannehill - 7.8 Dalton - 7.6 Goff - 7.6 Josh Allen - 7.6 Geno - 7.5 TH finished about middle of the pack with 7.2 YPA and Wentz was one of the worst at 6.4. It's a simple stat and I firmly believe if we want to have any success around here we should take it seriously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 I’ll keep it simple. Touchdowns. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Could never tell this was started by a hive guy. 😆 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazel-Ra Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Wins 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Just now, Hazel-Ra said: Wins We're supposed to embrace the notion that a win is not a qb stat. It's a team game. But I like to be a rebel too so let's stand our ground. 😁 2 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Nicknames 👍...followed closely by their ability to cook a grilled cheese sandwich. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmandoug1 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Consistency, and better than 9 wins with no oline. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 There is no one stat. You want a QB who is productive, accurate and constantly makes good choices. This allows him to be a guy who is capable of carrying the weight of a team and be the engine that allows it to function. Your not gonna find that looking at one stat. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 The only stat that matters, wins. He wins he has a nice long career. He doesn’t, then he’s just a backup or out of the league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Mexican Posted March 2, 2023 Author Share Posted March 2, 2023 48 minutes ago, Jumbo said: Could never tell this was started by a hive guy. 😆 Hey, I try to keep an open mind about future QBs around here. Either that or I would have lost my mind 20 years ago 😎 48 minutes ago, Califan007 The Constipated said: Nicknames 👍...followed closely by their ability to cook a grilled cheese sandwich. Like our ex-QB now in Minny? Or was that some baby back ribs? 39 minutes ago, FootballZombie said: There is no one stat. You want a QB who is productive, accurate and constantly makes good choices. This allows him to be a guy who is capable of carrying the weight of a team and be the engine that allows it to function. Your not gonna find that looking at one stat. Ok but that's a pretty good QB list I gave as an example with YPA. It's not an exact science, of course, but that's my assumption seeing Howell. RR is maybe looking for that with him? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Steaks eaten. I know, pretty obscure stat—doubt it comes up in the context of our QBs 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraveWarrior Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 How quickly they develop a subset of fans here, with their own group name and their ability to overreact to any criticism of their favored QB. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostofSparta Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Terry McLaurin targets Terry McLaurin catches Terry McLaurin yards Terry McLaurin TDs 2 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 The entire premise is flawed very early in your statistical evidence. Quote Case in point with QBs who had at least 100 pass attempts during 2022: Tua T led the League with 8.9 YPA Sam Darnold - 8.2 And that’s where you lost me. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 3 hours ago, El Mexican said: Like our ex-QB now in Minny? Or was that some baby back ribs? I think he cooks grilled cheese sandwiches with foil lining the skillet lol... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrFan Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Career starts for our franchise. If he has a couple hundred starts, chances are he has had a lot of career wins. 9 hours ago, Conn said: Steaks eaten. I know, pretty obscure stat—doubt it comes up in the context of our QBs and SamWow never has. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan66 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Has he played baseball? Not the most important but with a mobile QB the best ones have played. Sliding, arm levels throwing, eyes, back peddling....... And mobile QB's are the ticket lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskinss Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 1 hour ago, skinsfan66 said: Has he played baseball? Not the most important but with a mobile QB the best ones have played. Sliding, arm levels throwing, eyes, back peddling....... And mobile QB's are the ticket lately. Howell was an all state baseball player in high school so he's got your prerequisite covered. My number one requirement for a quarterback this year is that his name doesn't rhyme with a muffler shop. Beyond that hopefully he's got that "it" factor we've so desperately sought out for what feels like an eternity. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 How many supermodels he impregnates. It's why Tom Brady is the GOAT. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Dare I say Injuries is the most important stat? Having Tom Brady on IR doesn't do you any good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wit33 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Good to elite Backyard abilities, then build from there. And…… On a rookie deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodpecker Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 15 hours ago, Jumbo said: We're supposed to embrace the notion that a win is not a qb stat. It's a team game. But I like to be a rebel too so let's stand our ground. 😁 Yep. You guys beat me to it, but definitely wins. I realize it’s not a true barometer of QB play, but all QBs have their good and bad traits and I wouldn’t want to limit the pool of candidates by focusing on one or two of them. It’s all about the total package which is the sum of all the traits. Can win with any type of quarterback if they are a good player. As my grandfather used to say there’s more than one way to skin a cat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Mexican Posted March 2, 2023 Author Share Posted March 2, 2023 12 hours ago, KDawg said: The entire premise is flawed very early in your statistical evidence. And that’s where you lost me. It is? Data obtained directly from NFL.com, friend. Those two guys are on top with the minimum of 100 pass attempts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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