Next Day Thread: Eagles Soar to New Lows

[KDawg]

Short and quick when it pertains to Heinicke. He was there. He made smart moves and smart plays when they mattered and he elevates the team around him. He throws death balls and wounded ducks but gets the guys to play hard every down offensively and that can't be downplayed. They won. They seem to do that with him. I can't explain it. I can't even begin to other than using one word: moxie. I don't know. Guy just has buy in from the locker room and that makes things happen.

 

Brian Robinson is going to get a stud point today... Not due to his yards per carry, but his effort. Guy just keeps moving forward and doesn't go down. And he's coming off of being shot. Going to be fun watching him and Gibson the next few years. 

 

Darrick Forrest and Jamin Davis are two big factors on our D right now that weren't there prior. Forrest is out of position at times, but he is a legitimate ballhawk on the field. He finds himself around the football time and time again. Davis got lucky he didn't get a facemask call, but he has been all over the field the last few weeks and this defense hasn't missed Cole Holcomb very much. Interesting to see how the defense reacts when Holcomb is back and Young is added to the mix. 

 

Scott Turner called his best game of the season. Not going to go into detail here. I'm sure it'll be hashed out over and over again here. 

 

We mismanaged the clock on the last few drives again, it's a small nitpick when there was such a big win but it's carryover from doing the same in most games this year. Throwing on third down was bailed out by Heinicke making a heads up play by falling and not forcing it.

 

Long story short: We beat the Philadelphia Eagles. A team that absolutely mauled us last time we met them. This is the first time that I actually believe people when they say we have a shot at the playoffs. Knowing this team that means we have a major let down next week, but maybe things are different now that the team may get sold and some of that bad mojo will start to turn around. We hold our destiny right now. Are we going to do it? I don't know. I've stopped trying to figure this team out. When I feel like the season is over we win, when I feel like we have any kind of shot we lose. It's brain pinball and I'm just going to get on the roller coaster and pray the cars stay on the track. 

 

Terry McLaurin watch: Heading into today he was 13th all time in Washington Football Redskin Commander Team History with 3,699 yards. Today he added 128 yards bringing him to 3,827. #12 is Henry Ellard with 3930 and #11 is Michael Westbrook with 4,280. He's in range for both this year. On this season McLaurin has 46 receptions for 737 yards.

 

Studs and Duds:

*** - Terry McLaurin

*** -  Joey Slye

*** - Scott Turner

*** - Jack Del Rio

** - Darrick Forrest

* - Jamin Davis

* - Brian Robinson

*- Antonio Gibson

 

NO DUDS TODAY BOYS AND LADIES!

 

Season to date:

* x 13 - Terry McLaurin

* x 10 - Daron Payne

* x 9 - Jon Allen

* x 7 - Curtis Samuel

* x 6 - Benjamin St-Juste

* x 6 - Jamin Davis

* x 5 - Jahan Dotson

* x 4  - Antonio Gibson

* x 3 - Darrick Forrest

* x 3- Dyami Brown

* x 3 - Back Judge in Vikings Game

* x 2 - Joey Slye

* x 2 - Montez Sweat

* x 2 - Jack Del Rio

* x 1 - Brian Robinson

* x 1 - Rachad Wildgoose

* x 1 - James Smith-Williams

 x 1 - Scott Turner

 x 1 - Taylor Heinicke

 x 1 - Bobby McCain

 x 1 - Wes Schweitzer

 x 3 -Rivera's Clock Management

 x 3 - John Ridgeway

 x 3 - Cam Sims

 x 5 - Charles Leno

 x 5 - Trai Turner

 x 6 - Nick Martin

 x 6 - WJ3

 x 7 - Sam Cosmi

 x 8 - Andrew Norwell

[profusion]

This team now has a championship-caliber defense (yes, I said that) coupled with a sputtering, headscratcher of an offense. If they had even a medium-level QB on the roster, we'd be talking about bigger things than just making the playoffs.

 

At this point, I can't even really fault Rivera for going with Wentz in the offseason. Turns out there weren't really any good options in the offseason. At least they're not stuck with Russell Wilson's enormous contract for years to come. 

 

Might as well roll with Heinicke for the rest of the season as long as they're mathematically alive for the playoffs. At least he gives them some energy and a chance most weeks.

[NoVaSkins21]

Best and most complete game by the team all season.  Won the game in all 3 phases

[Zim489]

The way they play is exactly how they have to with the worst QB room in the league. Everyone knows it’s not sustainable. But we have said that for 3 years now. They some how keep dragging wins out of their asses. 
 

Taylor is arguably the worst QB playing right now but at the same time is a real life Angels in the Outfield player. Some how everything consistently goes their direction. 

[Ball Security]

Who had Dyami Brown outperforming AJ Brown on their bingo card?

[Spaceman Spiff]

This is the game plan I've been waiting to see all season.  Turner has done it to a certain extent, but not to the extent that he did it yesterday.  

 

Pound the ball.  Run it.  Run it some more.  Win the time of possession, keep the other team's offense off the field.  And don't stray from it, even if you get down a score early.

 

IMO, this team should enter each game with the #1 goal of rushing for 150+ yards as a unit and winning the time of possession game by having the ball for 35+ minutes.  Do that, and we'll win more than we lose.

 

 

This is something they should be trying to improve upon each game.

 

If we try to go toe to toe with quarterback play, we'll lose more than we win.  Heinicke can do some things, but he's not going to win a shootout and he's probably not going to win a game where he has to throw it more than we run it.  But we should be able to gash defenses with Gibson, Robinson, McKissic and Samuel and we should be able to get plenty of carries for each of them.  There's enough change of pace and different looks across those 4 to keep defenses honest.  I believe our defense is getting better and better but they're still far from being lights out.  And you want those guys fresh and off the field as much as possible no matter what.

 

But yeah, run for 150+ and win the time of possession by having it for over 35 minutes per game.  IMO, a recipe for winning.   

[DJHJR86]

I want to see a 40 minute time of possession before this season is over.

[Spaceman Spiff]

2 minutes ago, DJHJR86 said:

I want to see a 40 minute time of possession before this season is over.

 

You saw it last night.  Or they got damn close to it.

[NoCalMike]

I like the time of possession domination approach, I just want to see another couple of drives end with a TD.  Put some of these games away before the final drive of the game.  It cost them against Minnesota, and allowed the Eagles to hang around at the end longer than they had any right to be.   

[skinsmania123]

The TOP was a huge factor in the win obviously.  Best game called by Turner all year. I was shocked mainly because he actually stayed with the run, because sometimes he deserts things that are working.  Sort of kept TH from throwing his lofts and other ill-advised passes trying to make something happen. Didn't they put the league on notice a little bit. That you can run against the Eagles if you have some solid backs, and decent blocking upfront.  So, hats off to our O line. They were very surprising effective last night.  The secondary has improved significantly with St-Juste and Forrest out there. I think what I noticed most is that there is a lot of talent on this roster. If we can improve at the QB position AND sell the team, I think we would be in the conversation as a solid team for years to come. 

[Est.1974]

Stunning victory in the circumstances. The team sure looks all in together and fully behind Rivera. Terry Mc is one Hell of a player and locker room leader.

Edited November 15, 2022 by Est.1974

[goskins10]

Everyone needs to see this if they have not, especially anyone that does not think the locker room has Rivera's back. And Terry is a legit team leader. 

 

 

Edited November 15, 2022 by goskins10

[NoCalMike]

23 minutes ago, skinsmania123 said:

The TOP was a huge factor in the win obviously.  Best game called by Turner all year. I was shocked mainly because he actually stayed with the run, because sometimes he deserts things that are working.  Sort of kept TH from throwing his lofts and other ill-advised passes trying to make something happen. Didn't they put the league on notice a little bit. That you can run against the Eagles if you have some solid backs, and decent blocking upfront.  So, hats off to our O line. They were very surprising effective last night.  The secondary has improved significantly with St-Juste and Forrest out there. I think what I noticed most is that there is a lot of talent on this roster. If we can improve at the QB position AND sell the team, I think we would be in the conversation as a solid team for years to come. 

 

Run the rock against the Eagles and do everything to keep Hurts inside the pocket as a pure passer and he looks very different.

[NoVaSkins21]

This game proved that Terry is the best WR in the NFC East and a top 10 WR in the NFL.  

[TradeTheBeal!]

Aiiight, back home on the couch and firing up the DVR.  Literally have only seen like two plays on the morning highlights.  let’s see what all the fuss is about…

[Zim489]

At some point the statistical anomaly wins have to to stop right? 

 

 

 

The 7th lowest YPC with at least 45 carries since 2000 with a win. Nearly every win above and below them were more than 1 score games.

[Forehead]

As serious as that video is, 1:08 to 1:14 is pretty under-rated with Cheeseman and his mini porn-stache half smirking and grinning in the background, not looking like he at all belongs in that locker room.  His last name being what it is just makes it better.

[fearlessNelms]

Great win and thought we were solid in all three phases. If there was one thing that peeved me though was when we were up 20-14 in the 3rd quarter and had first and goal on the Philly 5. After a run on 1st down, we called two consecutive passes. The 2nd down pass was incomplete and then Heinicke was sacked on 3rd down. Although we did get a FG to go up 9, I thought we let Philly off the hook by passing and it felt like by them holding us to a FG, it flipped momentum in their favor.

 

I would've liked to see us run it right at them on 2nd and 3rd down and slam it in for a TD. They were frustrated and we were smashing them in the face- with Robinson and Gibson getting tough yards. I think a TD right there would've broken any fight they had left. But that proved to be irrelevant in the outcome and we got the big win.

 

Also, last nights win changes the way I look at the rest of our schedule. I'm not going to say we'll win out, but by beating an undefeated Philly team on their home field has me looking at the rest of our games as all winnable games. I didn't feel that way before last night. Again, not saying we'll run the table, but there is now no game left on our remaining schedule that I don't think is a winnable game for us.  

[Est.1974]

32 minutes ago, Zim489 said:

At some point the statistical anomaly wins have to to stop right? 

 

 

 

The 7th lowest YPC with at least 45 carries since 2000 with a win. Nearly every win above and below them were more than 1 score games.

Well we aren’t beating the 8-0 Eagles by throwing it 50 times. Pretty clear that such an unexpected win comes with slightly unconventional statistics really.

[FrFan]

[Redd]

Imagine if this offense had even an average passing attack. 

[Idaho fan]

Last year I bet the money line a few times... usually taking big favorites with big bets.  Had one close call but won the few that I made.  

 

This poor guy.  lol.

 

[NeverSurrender]

48 minutes ago, fearlessNelms said:

Great win and thought we were solid in all three phases. If there was one thing that peeved me though was when we were up 20-14 in the 3rd quarter and had first and goal on the Philly 5. After a run on 1st down, we called two consecutive passes. The 2nd down pass was incomplete and then Heinicke was sacked on 3rd down. Although we did get a FG to go up 9, I thought we let Philly off the hook by passing and it felt like by them holding us to a FG, it flipped momentum in their favor.

 

I would've liked to see us run it right at them on 2nd and 3rd down and slam it in for a TD. They were frustrated and we were smashing them in the face- with Robinson and Gibson getting tough yards. I think a TD right there would've broken any fight they had left. But that proved to be irrelevant in the outcome and we got the big win.

 

Also, last nights win changes the way I look at the rest of our schedule. I'm not going to say we'll win out, but by beating an undefeated Philly team on their home field has me looking at the rest of our games as all winnable games. I didn't feel that way before last night. Again, not saying we'll run the table, but there is now no game left on our remaining schedule that I don't think is a winnable game for us.  

I said the same thing in another thread.  We had the perfect opportunity to break them and we let them off the hook. 

21 minutes ago, Redd said:

Imagine if this offense had even an average passing attack. 

Well Terry kinda tore it up last night idk if you were watching.

[TradeTheBeal!]

That snap over the head play was very Romo-esque…in a good way.

[veteranskinsfan]

This win against the Eagles should be a confidence booster for this team.  For years we would lose on Monday Nights so last night was so enjoyable

for the players and the fans.  I listened to two Eagle sports radio stations today.  They are still in shock that Washington won.  Some of their fans

are ready to fire some coaches- specials team coach and the defensive coordinator.