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I will say this. I like Nick Saban. He is not the most complementary guy, can be fairly critical, so when he assesses particular players, I listen. He definitely mentioned the durability concerns, pointing out that conditioning and putting weight on and relying more on his passing game, would really help him grow. He also said he is a good passer and demonstrates an ability to move up in the pocket to buy time, which many young QB's don't do. They tend to move side to side. He says he sees the field pretty well but will have to release the ball quicker in the NFL. When I bought up his passing ability and accuracy here on this board one day, I was told he had great receivers. Yeah, okay so that should continue with Terry and Jahan. And I still hope they pick up a decent, might I say, big-bodied receiver in the 3rd round. Where he differs from RG3 IMO is that he does have a solid passing game. I honestly think, he is a better passer then RG3 ever was. When you took RG3's wheels away, he was not able to fall back on his passing game as a staple. I guess I am saying he might want to be more focused on becoming more like a Pat Mahomes, who only runs when he needs to or to shake things up a bit. And I think that capacity to grow in the passing game should be his goal. I am super excited to turn the page and I look forward to seeing what Jayden can do. I think it is going to be exciting.

I agree. I was very aware during the 1st round how they kept coming off the board. I like Suamataia. He is the only one I have really looked into. I think we have a decent shot at him, and he can play either right or left tackle. I don't know what we would have to give up, maybe our other 2nd round pick, hopefully not, but the O line desperately needs to be shored up heading into the season, with any QB, but especially JD. I don't think he could take the pounding Howell took.

Hope you are right. I have been thinking that, but my gosh he is a small glass of water.

I am starting to be concerned. Like we could be rolling into an RG3 2.0 with JD. He looks so tiny, like a small gust could blow him over like a cheap tent. And I have been so supportive of him, but he looks like a boy among men with that physique.

I don't know. I can't wait to hear the process they went through to come to their decision, whoever it is.

I said the same thing relative to Daniels. But I think your 100% right about Maye as well. I guess the thing I don't get @KDawg is if there is so much concern about injury risk, why wouldn't you take Maye over Daniels? I don't think it is worth taking a guy that could burn bright for a season or two and then crumble, literally. I am glad I am not making the decision. I have already admitted I am leaning more towards Daniels.

I think some of the videos of Jayden getting blown up being that "dog" in college have been overemphasized, to the point that his competencies and assets are overlooked. I do agree with posters that point out that some of his tendencies will NOT fly in the NFL. He will be destroyed if he does that in the NFL. But with that said, he has made some adjustments to his game, which means he is not too stubborn to learn. RG3 in my opinion, is a very fixed stubborn personality. Sometimes you just have to adjust to thrive. I am thinking JD can with proper coaching, and relying on his teammates.

I thought the same thing earlier in the thread. Why would he care if goes 2nd or 3rd? He sure doesn't care. After all the **** this kid has been through, he is just happy to be here. I have never, until now, heard anything regarding character concerns. Geez it is almost like a re-run of Williams and his mother. Bring on the draft.

I know not all evaluators of QB talent are always correct and trust our FO to make the right decision. I mean even watching Daniels play and Maye play I have clearly walked away with different observations then a lot of posters on here. And I will admit many of you on here know a lot more then myself. All I have is my own perceptions based upon what I see. I admit I am a just fan of NFL football. But I did go out my way to support Daniels because I think he is better than Maye at this juncture and I believe in his ability to further adjust, so I see a lot more upside for him with proper coaching and good conditioning. With that being said I noticed that Kiper, was all in on Daniels in comparison to Maye. I think he has made some good observations. Some of you have even pointed out that at times that Maye is inconsistent and does not always deliver the ball accurately. Also, I agree Daniels had superior receivers, but he delivered the ball accurately. This is what Kiper said: Mel Kiper Jr. debates value of Jayden Daniels, Drake Maye as NFL Draft prospects (on3.com) “Drake Maye had three games, even after Tez Walker came back — Clemson game, Virginia game, NC State game — I keep harping on it because I went back and looked at those games time and time again. I said, ‘OK, why were those throws not accurately delivered?’ There was no reason. I think you look at Jayden, how many games like that did he have? Zero.

I know. I was screwing around with one of the posters.

I am going to say your 100% correct about that. But you still have to get the ball them in stride.

One of the reasons that Daniel's won the Heisman was his pass completion rate. Also, when you look at the number of yards he threw, as I have said in other posts, the yards were comparable to both Williams and Maye. So, it is not as though he can't complete passes accurately and just takes off. That is just not true. But he has used his legs more because he is a dual-threat QB, and they designed plays for him. He will have to make some adjustments. I really do not think it is going to take a long time. He can rely on his ability to pass and to be accurate. This is why I think we really need to pick up a big, bodied receiver and an excellent TE receiver. And I think he would be great with Terry and Jahan. I really think this guy can be coached up. Some QB's can't. One concern I have is the strength of our O line. If it is not substantially better than it was for Howell, and we draft Daniels forget it. He would develop so many bad habits, all the concerns you are raising will happen. But they already added some pieces, and they will add more through the draft. I think we could run a very fast offense with him. He is ahead of some of the other prospects, and yes, he has played longer in college, and right now that is a plus. So, his development is key. That to me is the most important element for any young QB who comes into the league. I think we have the coaches to get the most out of him and ensure longevity if he listens.

LOL! Your right do you know the two QB;'s that did? And Roger Staubach I think.

Two and he will be the third. Joe Montana is one.

I can't figure out how he had so many completions then. The guy won the Heisman. He had an amazing year, and I think it is transferable even though some on here actually said college stats don't matter. Yes, completions matter. The ability to use your legs in the modern NFL matters. I don't think he is going to get killed in the NFL. I think he will continue to make adjustments like rookies have to. I think the will pass the tests.