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  1. Every year that goes by with middling or worse results for a young QB I believe their ceiling goes by with it. Meaning the three guys you mentioned— Darnold, Mayfield, and Trubisky— I think all three of them are already pretty clearly not going to be superstar QBs (Darnold has had fewer starts so he’s less defined). Star QBs develop and produce much faster today than 20+ years ago. No one really follows the Terry Bradshaw or even Drew Brees path now. It’s different. Now, that does NOT mean that those guys mentioned are all going to suck for their careers. They might be OK; maybe have
  2. Nah, a QB means everything. You put Kyler Murray on this team right now and we are a playoff contender even with the weaknesses along the OL, TE, etc. The defense is good enough to compete already and a good QB masks a whole lot of issues. Gotta the QB position right and shouldn’t hold back just because we invested in one already. Let’s just say by the middle-ish part of season Haskins isn’t getting any better; I’d be fine giving Kyle Allen a run for at least 3-4 games so we could compare apples to apples. If there is a noticeable improvement then you have your first clue that Haskins May trul
  3. I think it’s pretty obvious Kyle Allen is the better QB RIGHT NOW. If you asked me point blank, with my house on the line, who starts at QB for us this week at Cleveland and if I lose my house goes with it... I start Allen. That said, due to our investment and his physical tools (along with some glimmers or flashes here and there) I am OK starting Haskins right now because we have to find out who he is. The only issue I see is that Allen is also pretty young— last year was his second in the league and the first starting— and the results were decent. He looked somewhat promising. So the issue t
  4. There is a difference now though. Two actually. 1. Snyder no longer has a crony by his side to do his bidding. He’s always had a buffer, or what sounds like several buffers. A group inside the organization to sort of insulate him while also able to do his bidding. I don’t think Wright fits into that crony role like Allen, Vinny, etc. Hopefully they have at least a cordial personal relationship, but Wright doesn’t come off as a raquetball-buddy type. Nor does Julie Donaldson or the other people who have replaced the departed. 2. The fact that so much has come to light very m
  5. Exactly. This type of message is extremely self aware. This is a non-invasive way for the Team President to address the divide between the organization and the fans. It’s positive and upbeat, but not hokey or pandering. One major issue for fans was how much they HATED the people in charge. To the point where their loyalties were strained because they didn’t want those people to have any success. Snyder is still here and that might continue to keep some fans away or at arms length. But with people like Wright and Rivera in charge, it’s hard to not root for them.
  6. Difference for me was that I felt Gruden more or less got out of his team what was there. He didn’t get any EXTRA, but under Jay we were actually pretty good in games against teams similar or worse than us. We just never were able to elevate against better teams. I also don’t think we “blew” many games under Jay. Under Norv we just had such a hard time doing the easy stuff— like beating the Cardinals when they were awful or closing out a late lead. Norv was just always so close to breaking through and we just never could figure out how to get out of our own way.
  7. It’s funny, Mosley was considered THE money kicker of the early to mid 80’s, but judged against today’s kicker standards he wouldn’t even be in the league. His career FG % was about 65% and he had a number of years sub 62%. As a comparison Dustin Hopkins currently sits at 85% for his career and I think most of us would term him as average to slightly above average. And by the way, Mosley career from 50+ he was 12-42. Like you said, Tampa was DONE. I have no idea how that defense of ours was smothering them so, but they were. All we had to do was not mess it up. Hallmark of
  8. One of the dumbest/worst plays in my history as a fan. He blew that game.
  9. For me the point isn’t that Cooke and Casserly and a Norv somehow “screwed” Snyder by leaving a mess. Even if it was the worst situation in NFL history a good owner would have figured it out in a shade less than 21 years. Even an average owner would have likely stumbled on some moderate success over that time. In now way is talking about 1993-1999 a “defense” of Snyder’s tenure. It’s been an F. There is no other way to put it. The reason I point out our organizational failures is to illustrate two main points: 1. The initial post-Gibbs era was a total failure and that is
  10. Totally disagree on the QBs. BJ was awesome the first half of 1999, then dropped off big time. He didn’t play well down the stretch in 99, especially against better teams. He was then absolutely awful in the playoff game at Tampa. Granted, the Bucs D was fantastic but we had a 13-0 lead late in third quarter. All we need was BJ to not screw up. Well, he did. He threw a terrible INT to John Lynch that totally shifted the momentum of that game. BJ was terrible to start 2000, picking up right where he left off in 1999. George was the superior QB at that point and probably should have be
  11. My biggest “defense” of Snyder over his tenure is 2000. I know he’s always probably treated people poorly but one year wasn’t enough to say the culture was so bad that it translated down to the field. 2000 was much more of a coaching issue in my mind. The signings we made more or less panned out. Deion gets blasted around here and obviously his contract was silly, but he played well for us that year and was a big part in our defense going from something like 30th in 1999 to 4th in 2000. Problem in 2000 is that it just became a total Norv year— finding all manner of ways to
  12. Yes, 1993 was the start. We were due for a rebuild so the fact that we went 4-12 wasn’t that huge a deal (although it was still a shock to the system for fans, myself included). But it was the start. We for sure wasted a year because we approached 1993 like we were trying to win the SB again. Passed the torch from Gibbs to Petitbone and pretty much kept the core together. Made a bunch of FA signings that were old older guys at the end of their careers. This added to our roster which also had a bunch of older guys at the end of the careers. Then we blow out the defending SB champs on
  13. My gut tells me this still isn’t enough for a forced removal because the actual allegations that directly involve Snyder are still very much he said/she said. And the most damaging piece here (the video) is an accusation that one former employee asked for it so he could show the owner— no evidence that Snyder asked for it or even ever saw it. We can all assume, but assumptions won’t get someone ousted. I don’t think the direct allegations are enough to move the needle to removal. The ONE lingering hope would be the old NCAA “lack of institutional control” thing. MAYBE this pushes that far enou
  14. First, no need to jump to conclusions. None of us know obviously and I seriously doubt that RR, his family, his friends, or his docs would advise him to do anything that wasn’t in the best interest of him besting this. Meaning, if he continues to coach and be at the park daily that means the people that know have deemed it a good/safe decision and that’s good enough for me. Plenty of cancer treatments can coincide with a fairly “normal” day to day existence. Other treatments are much more invasive and would force someone to take a step back for awhile. Unlike a player, if a head coac
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