Silvernon Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 Harris saying that Rivera is going to stay until the end of the year buying something unforeseeable is not surprising. I don't think we've seen anything from either of the coordinators to suggest that they are a good head coach for the rest of the year. Β Smells like a full clean house. Front office and the entire coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Silvernon said: Harris saying that Rivera is going to stay until the end of the year buying something unforeseeable is not surprising. I don't think we've seen anything from either of the coordinators to suggest that they are a good head coach for the rest of the year. Β Smells like a full clean house. Front office and the entire coaching staff. Harris has said this or someone legit has posted this (i.e., Schefter etc.) about RR staying until the end of the year or just speculation?Β Update:Β I see an article where Rap speaks about him staying then there is the preverbal "BUT". I am not much of a I.R. fan.Β Β Edited November 24, 2023 by RWJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 Keeping Rivera ensures a tank and good shot at top 5 pick.Β Β Harris aint no fool. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: Keeping Rivera ensures a tank and good shot at top 5 pick.Β Β Harris aint no fool. I think listening to the fans would help.Β This team is well done to say the least.Β Everyone knows that RR and Co. are gone and you might as well cut ties tomorrow.Β JMO, WH.Β 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Command The 414 Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, Silvernon said: Harris saying that Rivera is going to stay until the end of the year buying something unforeseeable is not surprising. I don't think we've seen anything from either of the coordinators to suggest that they are a good head coach for the rest of the year. Β Smells like a full clean house. Front office and the entire coaching staff. Harris doesnβt want to come off as the bad guy here, the last thing he wants is the aroma of a Snyder like move (knee jerk) him giving RR & Co. the entire season seeing what this season has become will make him out to be the good guy, once the season is over and he clears house it will be a move that has to be made, after all his biggest excuse can be he inherited the team way to late to do anything FO or on the field, but now after this team finishes 4-13 or 5-12 and he clears house then heβll come off as the man in charge and all moves going forward will be hisβ¦ and honestly I canβt disagree with that either, what good can come out of firing RR and JDR now? (Even though I think it should happen, I can agree with it not actually happening) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 19 minutes ago, RWJ said: I think listening to the fans would help.Β This team is well done to say the least.Β Everyone knows that RR and Co. are gone and you might as well cut ties tomorrow.Β JMO, WH.Β why would listening to the fans help anything right now? The fans affect nothing on or off the field in the next six weeks.Β 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraCommander Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 Doesnβt matter anymore. Just like last year when they waited until the last week to start Sam. Might as well finish out the season and compete the tank job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuckinIA Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 The day ownership listens to the fans to make any football-related decision may just be the day I finally abandon this team for good. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre The Giant Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 Β Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins island connection Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 Β From play calling to defense, this team is lost. The secondary have no idea how to box a WR, safeties are taking wrong angles exposing 2/3 of the field to a WR who has 2 steps on coverage. The defense itself isn't playing aggressive, they're playing reactionary defense, which means offenses dictate what they're gonna do and its up to the defense to adjust and try to defend it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvernon Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 I don't see it happening, but I would love to see EB take over and they get stomped in the games against weak teams post bye week. Show me who still shines in the garbage, besides Tress Way. Β Full clean-out of the staff is the acceptable outcome, so I would like to see strong individual performance among the losses.Β Β Always pumped for a top 5 pick. Hopefully they don't screw it up this time, because you should get an All-Pro with that pick(aka Bowers).Β Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 Punish Ron and make him keep coaching this team he assembled.Β 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Voice_of_Reason said: Punish Ron and make him keep coaching this team he assembled.Β Except he isnβt actually coaching. He just stands there chewing gum staring into space 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins island connection Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 Just now, Voice_of_Reason said: Punish Ron and make him keep coaching this team he assembled.Β Β Β Rivera knows the heat is at full blast right now, but he's set and stoic. Besides, this team is not remotely sniffing the playoffs, and RR doesn't care. Howell, if he's gonna be the QB in 2024, should be benched, maybe sent to QB camp or else the line will get him hurt long term, and the frew stars on this team should take the season off because a bad injury is just around the corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 π Β Β 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovemaskins Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 Whatβs sad, is JDR defense has been dysfunctional since he got here. Β Every year weβve been blowing coverage and offenses have been running wide open. And now the players are talking about how complex the defense is. On top of that the offensive line has been bad since RR second year and has only gotten worse. So a complicated defense players canβt figure out and an offense with no time or physicality equals a coach fired with no explanation or excuse after 4 more years. Sad! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANONYMOUS SOURCE. Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 My opinion but Ron and Co knew they were gone the minute Josh became owner ,they are Β fools if they didnβt. The EB hire was an βall in hope it works outβ Β move to stave off the hatchet. All Weβll end up with after 4yrs is aΒ solid but small core of guys and some decent draft position Β and thatβs about it. Ron did a lot of good things here but building a winner just wasnβt one of them.Β 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, ANONYMOUS SOURCE. said: My opinion but Ron and Co knew they were gone the minute Josh became owner ,they are Β fools if they didnβt. The EB hire was an βall in hope it works outβ Β move to stave off the hatchet. All Weβll end up with after 4yrs is aΒ solid but small core of guys and some decent draft position Β and thatβs about it. Ron did a lot of good things here but building a winner just wasnβt one of them.Β I agree that the decision to move was made even before the sale was final. They were too far into the cycle to get a new coaching staff. Theyβve coached like they know thereβs no future.Β 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexa Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 EB sucks. I'm so tired of his shotgun plays on 3rd and 1. He can't get under center and call better plays? His dumb ass had 3rd and 1 and called two passes out of gun. I'm sorry but Ron should have yanked that play sheet from him and give it to anyone else. He is obsessed w/ his shot gun crap in short yardage. Why do so many want this guy as a head coach? He doesn't deserve it. He hasn't proven that he is capable.Β Β Ron and Jack are actually worse than EB. They are just flat out incompetent losers at their jobs.Β Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassSkinsFan Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 42 minutes ago, Silvernon said: Always pumped for a top 5 pick. Hopefully they don't screw it up this time, because you should get an All-Pro with that pick(aka Bowers).Β Cβmon man. This team will draft a long snapper with that pick.Β 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoVaSkins21 Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 1 minute ago, MassSkinsFan said: Cβmon man. This team will draft a long snapper with that pick.Β Probably being sarcastic I think.Β This coaching staff and FO would.Β A competent one doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilandil Tasardur Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 I never really understand the point of firing a coach mid season. The season is done. There isn't anything to salvage. I don't believe one iota in any nonsense about development of moral or momentum. Β I'm convinced that 95% of mid season firings are cases where the best candidate is already doing the best possible job, and the team just isn't good. There's nothing gained from shaking things up.Β 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassSkinsFan Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 Just now, NoVaSkins21 said: Probably being sarcastic I think.Β This coaching staff and FO would.Β A competent one doesn't. Sarcasm is all I have left after being a Skins/Team/Commanders fan for nearly 50 years. πΒ 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoVaSkins21 Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 (edited) We're getting closer to where want to be, but it's going to take some endurance.Β Enduring some big time @ss kicking like this and more to come before there's light at the end of the tunnel Edited November 24, 2023 by NoVaSkins21 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 23 minutes ago, Alexa said: EB sucks. I'm so tired of his shotgun plays on 3rd and 1. He can't get under center and call better plays? His dumb ass had 3rd and 1 and called two passes out of gun. EB may have out-thought himself given the lack of confidence in our line. But sometimes you gotta line up and run a manβs hat on a hat run play. Where-TF was Alex Armah?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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