Redskins Reparations Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 I still blame Daniel Snyder for everything! 1 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmandoug1 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Is this right... Scherff Cosmi Samuel's Thomas Sims Brown All out? Tough to overcome that with our defense playing poorly. Winston overcame his offensive issues with his defense playing well. IMHO Oh........Lattimore is legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartyPosse Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Skinsinparadise said: I practically wrote a dissertation the morning before we drafted him about why we should take Terry in the third round. I'd bet 25% of so of the tribute posts on the Terry thread are from me. Heck I drove with my kids 2 years ago an hour plus in traffic on a Friday night before the SB to meet him in a meet and greet. Heck I just bought a bunch of cool merchandise from Terry's web site this morning, mclaurin17.com, for those interested. . He's my favorite player on the team. I can go on and on. I'll put my fan carrying Terry card up against anyone here. But yeah today wasn't his day against Lattimore. Yeah Heinicke's floaters don't help but IMO it was deeper than that. Heck it happens. WRs can have an off game and #1 CBs do actually at times a good job against them -- it happened, its OK. It wasn't hard to see Latimore enjoying giving Terry a hard time at the end of the game for how it played out -- I hate to say it but Latitmore earned it. Terry is a great player. I get the angst here about Heinicke. I've challenged Heinicke from time to time. I am far from 100% sold on him. but I don't think that's the full story for today's matchup between Terry and Latimore. The Heinicke narrative is a different conversation IMO. How many of Terry’s longer catches this season didn’t involve him having to come back for the ball? I doubt any. Like I said, virtually no receiver is going to thrive against a guy like Lattimore if the throws are that slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Voice_of_Reason said: I dunno. I think that only really happened in known passing situations at the end of the game. He didn’t have a great game. So from what you saw Lattimore struggled? I wasn't always paying attention to him. i'll rewatch this game eventually. And heck if Terry had a good game against Lattimore and I got it backwards, I'll be more than glad to backtrack. But I am not taking anyone's word for it yet because this is my initial impression. But my impressions sometimes change on rewatches. Edited October 10, 2021 by Skinsinparadise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan1812 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Taylor was bad but the defense has been atrocious. Collins was a high FA bust last year..nothing has changed this year. Early returns on our 14 mil FA corner are trending towards a bust. And on to Ron. He is lost. He might be a culture change guy but he is not the guy to select talent and lead the team on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Mclaurin was fine. Lattimore is a great CB and you need good QB play to beat him. Heinicke missed throws. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 I don’t know why we are pretending this is even a debate. This team needs a starting caliber quarterback. Heinicke is awesome and a great backup that I want around for a decade. But we need a starting caliber quarterback. Period. 10 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cakmoney61 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 I want to say the future looks bright, but I can't. It doesn't look good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins4eva Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, ConnSKINS26 said: Rivera doesn’t seem like he has it anymore. Was it the cancer? Just the fact that he’s a retread and starting over (without a Cam Newton this go around, too) is exhausting for someone who’s made it to a Super Bowl and lost and had to try to re-climb that mountain? There’s just no energy. I’m sure the players love him as a man, but are guys really falling all over themselves to run through a brick wall for him? Is the cultural change in the locker room really that meaningful? We’re still undisciplined and sloppy, start slow and don’t know how to finish, and the players on defense are still ****ing arrogant and indignant about criticism in the media even when they’re bad. The roster building and schemes are two whole other issues of course, and their own problems. I think the FO and business-level changes are probably more important long-term, and Wright could probably run a real GM search that builds the team properly from the top down—GM after a comprehensive (not good ol’ boys club) search, then HC (based on schematic brilliance and not name value), then staff. I just don’t think we’re seeing a team/organization that is somehow being held together and kept from being even worse solely by the willpower and league-wide respect of Rivera—I have no idea what he’s bringing to the table if I’m honest, except that commentators are nicer about us bc they like him. His coordinators stink, his players don’t face accountability or competition if they’re bad, we’re undisciplined and stupid situationally. What exactly is the special sauce that Rivera brings other than holding Snyder at bay (for now)? this is a great post and essentially sums it up. I think we all love Rivera as a person. He’s an absolutely gem of a man, but he’s not a very good football coach. And his coordinator selection was always suspect; now it’s looking like malpractice. The players have basically given up on the defensive side of the ball. They look disinterested. And you’re right: there is zero energy on this team. Everyone kind of hangs their heads. We have a kicker who looks like he’s going to have a nervous breakdown. We have linebackers who have no business being starters. We have a secondary being put in positions to fail and we have an offensive coordinator who has zero rhythmic sense as a play caller and doesn’t really understand how to scheme to our strengths. And then on top of it all, as you’ve pointed out, there seems to be zero accountability. It’s the same players making the same boneheaded plays over and over. What really did it for me though was the Hail Mary. That play doesn’t happen to a mediocre coaching staff (it happens to a bad and unprepared coaching staff). It was entirely foreseeable. These coaches are clueless, and that entire play laid it out there for all to see. The defensive game plan seems to be one of simple attrition: try to slow them down since we know we can’t stop them. There is zero energy or enthusiasm on this coaching staff. It really feels like some of these guys are just mailing it in and that is filtering through to the players. What a hot mess. Edited October 10, 2021 by skins4eva 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Updating my list of new team names. Let's it hear if for your Washington: Disappoinments Bums Goof Ups 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, clskinsfan said: In fairness there were multiple plays today where Terry was open if the ball gets to him on time. Terry consistently schooled Latimore on deep outs and Taylor couldnt get the ball there on time. But I do agree with you that Latimore played Terry better than anyone else so far this season. With all our injuries on Offense, I thought our Offense did pretty OK. In the end, it was obvious where the ball was going because we didn't had anybody else playing. So it didn't helped Terry. But our D is getting schooled on each game. I can believe guys being ****u early in the season, but 5 games in and they're still being owned like these? 4TD from Jameis Winston, still hard to believe. And if coaches really lost the players, I'll start to wonder how much of this is related to the vaccination stuff early this summer. That could really be the turning point of this team this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins Reparations Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Just now, tmandoug1 said: Is this right... Scherff Cosmi Samuel's Thomas Sims Brown All out? Tough to overcome that with our defense playing poorly. Winston overcame his offensive issues with his defense playing well. IMHO Oh........Lattimore is legit. Lattimore is a beast no doubt but there were a few balls thrown behind Terry that made Lattimore’s coverage look better than it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCF Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 I can't stand that decision at the end of the half to be so conservative as to just try and chew up 2 minutes because we were at the 1. We go for it on 4th and 10 and 4th and 14, yet are so beyond conservative on that and it cost us. The defense is beyond awful. I don't care if the offense coughs up a couple turnovers, we continue to let up 30+ points every game and you can always expect to lose with a growing pains offense. Pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdcskins Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 It's amazing how this team fails to improve every year. I guess you could say we improved a bit last year, but then we immediately take three steps back. Fitzpatrick going out the first game hurt a lot. Samuel being injured constantly also hurts. Coaching is horrible, defense is horrible. This franchise is the definition of bleak. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Skinsinparadise said: So from what you saw Lattimore struggled? I wasn't always paying attention to him. i'll rewatch this game eventually. And heck if Terry had a good game against Lattimore and I got it backwards, I'll be more than glad to backtrack. But I am not taking anyone's word for it yet because this is my initial impression. But my impressions sometimes change on rewatches. I'd give the edge to Lattimore, but thought that Terry had his wins too. I think some better throws would flip the score, but woulda, coulda, shoulda don't count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmandoug1 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Just now, Redskins Reparations said: Lattimore is a beast no doubt but there were a few balls thrown behind Terry that made Lattimore’s coverage look better than it was. Yep...but I saw more blanket coverage by Lattimore than the 3 balls thrown behind or not in front of Terry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cougs Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Burgold said: Updating my list of new team names. Let's it hear if for your Washington: Disappoinments Bums Goof Ups How about Miss Communicators? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins4eva Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: 50% on his passes and two ints with no TDs doesn't sound like he's completely absolved from fault. I agree with not putting it all on him, ill watch the game and decide for myself, though. Not a good QB Stateline, im tired of giving him credit when he does well and defending him when he does poorly, have to call a a spade a spade at some point. Again, ill watch the game when I get back to VA before commenting further (unless someone quotes me) im not going to tell you not to blame the guy. Blame him all you want. But my view is that he’s the best QB we’ve had playing the position in a long time. It’s an incredibly low bar but that’s a different story. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 1 minute ago, skins4eva said: What really did it for me though was the Hail Mary. That play doesn’t happen to a mediocre coaching staff. These coaches are clueless, and that entire play laid it out there for all to see. The defensive game plan seems to be one of simple attrition: try to slow them down since we know we can’t stop them. There is zero energy or enthusiasm on this coaching staff. It really feels like some of these guys are just mailing it in and that is filtering through to the players. What a hot mess. Sorry, but that Hail MAry is on the players and nobody else. Everyone knows it's coming, and not one of our guys jumps for the ball. Not even one of them look for the ball when the Saints are looking at it. Players have to play. If they don't want to, you have to bump them out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins Reparations Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Burgold said: Updating my list of new team names. Let's it hear if for your Washington: Disappoinments Bums Goof Ups What about the Washington Cesspool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Just now, cougs said: How about Miss Communicators? Dude. Miss Communicators is the name of our cheerleading squad. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCF Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 1 minute ago, abdcskins said: It's amazing how this team fails to improve every year. I guess you could say we improved a bit last year, but then we immediately take three steps back. Fitzpatrick going out the first game hurt a lot. Samuel being injured constantly also hurts. Coaching is horrible, defense is horrible. This franchise is the definition of bleak. It's only because of the last place schedule we had, and even then we got a whopping 7 wins (the last of which was a tank job from Philly). I feel like the NFL scheduling gives you that kind of year every 4 seasons, like a casino trick to keep you invested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoVaSkins21 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Looking back at the offseason, it looks like the FO added two bad guys in Jackson and McCain to a secondary that already had Landon Collins and made it significantly worse. They need to play some of the younger guys and see what they have over the course of what's going to be a long 2021 season. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, KDawg said: I don’t know why we are pretending this is even a debate. This team needs a starting caliber quarterback. Heinicke is awesome and a great backup that I want around for a decade. But we need a starting caliber quarterback. Period. I think hes an ok starter. But you need better than ok to sustain success in todays NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csup Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, tmandoug1 said: Is this right... Scherff Cosmi Samuel's Thomas Sims Brown All out? Tough to overcome that with our defense playing poorly. Winston overcame his offensive issues with his defense playing well. IMHO Oh........Lattimore is legit. Washington is dinged by injuries but so is New Orleans. I’m so tired of the excuses year in year out. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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