PartyPosse Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, ILikeBilly said: He has covid. He is out whether he is vaxxed or not. Now he can be treated and play against the eagles. Plus, he now will have natural immunity. Well played by him, but wish he caught it 2 weeks ago. Also, don't blame him if teammates catch covid. If they do, it is because the vax doesn't work as well as promised. 1 1 18 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSurrender Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 15 minutes ago, Califan007 said: Not gonna go into it here--there's a lengthy thread in the Tailgate that goes into stuff like what you mentioned that would be more appropritate. But the issue here that people are most upset by is Sweat's unavailability due to not being vaccinated. If he had been vaccinated there was a better possibility that he could at least return sooner. I think you should re-read my OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 20 minutes ago, ILikeBilly said: He has covid. He is out whether he is vaxxed or not. Isn’t the rule for vaccinated players that they just need two negative tests 24 hours apart? If he was vaccinated and tested negative 24 hours apart, he would be available for Sunday. There lies the issue that people have with him, that his decision is now leaving him unavailable for Sunday’s huge game against Dallas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, ILikeBilly said: He has covid. He is out whether he is vaxxed or not. Now he can be treated and play against the eagles. Plus, he now will have natural immunity. Well played by him, but wish he caught it 2 weeks ago. Also, don't blame him if teammates catch covid. If they do, it is because the vax doesn't work as well as promised. He can’t rejoin the team until the day before the Eagles. No football activity since Halloween. If he was vaccinated he could join the team after two negative tests. Also, if 90 is asymptomatic, he wouldn’t have been tested as often if he was vaccinated. And neither would his vaccinated teammates. Edited December 8, 2021 by Ball Security 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 21 minutes ago, NeverSurrender said: I think you should re-read my OP. I read it just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luca Brasi Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 Hopefully he hasn’t been around his teammates. I haven’t seen him on the sidelines during any of the games, which maybe there are rules against IR players being at games, who knows. At any rate, he looks like a complete jackass and I hope this costs him $$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 18 minutes ago, Cooleyfan1993 said: Isn’t the rule for vaccinated players that they just need two negative tests 24 hours apart? If he was vaccinated and tested negative 24 hours apart, he would be available for Sunday. There lies the issue that people have with him, that his decision is now leaving him unavailable for Sunday’s huge game against Dallas. 14 minutes ago, Ball Security said: He can’t rejoin the team until the day before the Eagles. No football activity since Halloween. If he was vaccinated he could join the team after two negative tests. Also, if 90 is asymptomatic, he wouldn’t have been tested if he was vaccinated. And neither would his vaccinated teammates. Both of those *nodding*... "The main difference between vaccinated and unvaccinated players is that vaccinated players don't have to worry about being a "high-risk" close contact at any point. They also have more freedom to participate in activities than their unvaccinated counterparts. Vaccinated players can go out on the road and more easily spend time with teammates outside the facility, among other perks." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 Horrific timing. Biggest game of the year, right when you need him the most. Now I gotta pray we don't have some extensive outbreak that derails our whole season. What a let down 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 "I don’t see me treating Covid until I actually get Covid." - #90 Missing games for a broken jaw, I don't think there are any sideeyes in the locker room. Missing another game because of this? Ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris 44 Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 This might hurt his chances of breaking the sack record this year. 😏 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapsSkins Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 "I don’t see me treating Covid until I actually get Covid." - #90 Amazing that this guy has gone 25 years without understanding the general concept of "insurance" or "preventative care". Then again, these are football players not Mensa members. Lol Now, I bet there are guys in the WFT locker room that have fake vaccine cards. I bet that's actually pretty widespread across the league. But this is such a dumb reason for Montez to miss more games. Could you imagine Jon Allen being unvaccinated? No way. That's real leadership. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtisDriftwood25 Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 Why is the question here not about the hypocrisy of the vaccinated vs unvaccinated in league standards. Show us the scientific data showing why unvaccinated players have to wait 10 days and not 5? Why can’t Montez Sweat show 2 negative tests just like a vaccinated player and come back to play? People should not be questioning his choice but more about the reasoning behind things. If Covid is out your system then you are not a risk to other people. Why wait 10 days? 2 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, OtisDriftwood25 said: Why is the question here not about the hypocrisy of the vaccinated vs unvaccinated in league standards. Show us the scientific data showing why unvaccinated players have to wait 10 days and not 5? Why can’t Montez Sweat show 2 negative tests just like a vaccinated player and come back to play? People should not be questioning his choice but more about the reasoning behind things. If Covid is out your system then you are not a risk to other people. Why wait 10 days? Because it’s the rule and this is about availability. Back in the day, Trent Williams and Fred Davis were dumb for smoking weed. Not because smoking weed is some evil that we need to clutch our pearls. But because they knew they would continually be tested and they’d get popped. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 22 minutes ago, OtisDriftwood25 said: Why is the question here not about the hypocrisy of the vaccinated vs unvaccinated in league standards. Show us the scientific data showing why unvaccinated players have to wait 10 days and not 5? Why can’t Montez Sweat show 2 negative tests just like a vaccinated player and come back to play? People should not be questioning his choice but more about the reasoning behind things. If Covid is out your system then you are not a risk to other people. Why wait 10 days? Theres an entire thread dedicated to "showing you the science " but you have to read it. This is the stadium, where we talk football only and the data says he violated the rules and now has to follow the punishment. End of story. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 (edited) If he was in the building, hopefully he was masked, which is the rule for people like him. Edited December 8, 2021 by justice98 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedskins 21 Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ball Security said: This is what happened to Trea Turner and the Nationals. He gets tested more frequently because he’s unvaccinated. So he tests positive and then everyone around him gets tested. I think it was 7 other guys tested positive, some players, some staff. Those guys were asymptomatic and vaccinated and wouldn’t have been tested if it wasn’t for the unvaccinated guy. Is being infected and none the wiser better? Edited December 8, 2021 by Tedskins 21 spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 16 minutes ago, Tedskins 21 said: Is being infected and non the wiser better? From a being able to participate perspective, yes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooper Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 Montez and Chase have been massive disappointments on and off the field this year. I thought they were going to dominate too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, Hooper said: Montez and Chase have been massive disappointments on and off the field this year. I thought they were going to dominate too. Yeah. I’m willing to give them a chance to turn it around this offseason and prove they can play much better. Hopefully it happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander -JB- Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 Eh, give him an extra week to rest his jaw 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticksboi05 Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 3 hours ago, NeverSurrender said: Im fully vaxxed and am currently getting over Covid right now. Its been about 10 days. So im not sure it really matters but Montez or any other player could get covid as well regardless of Vax status. This thread is making me hate this place. I got COVID fully vaccinated and never had more than mild congestion for a couple of days. My point is not to say I told you so or "there!", but that anecdotes are just that - the population-level data proves vaccinated people are at less risk of disease, and clear the virus faster than unvaccinated people. We know you can still get COVID vaccinated and you can still have severe disease - the point is, reduce your odds of screwing over your team. If I avoid serious injury not wearing a seatbelt, it doesn't mean not wearing a seatbelt still isn't stupid. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartyPosse Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 Let's not turn this into another vax debate. The guy knew the consequences and now he's let the team down. It'll come back to bite him in the ass or he comes back and proves he's able to be a good teammate and leader. Ball still is in his court. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 After managing it well last season and the first 13 weeks this season, the Team is having some problems. Along with Sweat, Smith-Williams, Roberts, and Hudson (IR) all tested positive this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMacAttack Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 That's what I was most worried about the ripple of one person testing positive. Hope the d line can keep it together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Omicron is going to run rampant through the league, and Im curious to see if they will keep the arbitrary testing vax/non-vax rules with it if it continues to appear it makes no difference for either. I dont recall whether the commish gets to just make the rules on that or whether the NFLPA is involved as well, but I suspect they change the rules in about a month or so or end up with a lot of cancelled games. I dont think our D has particularly struggled without Sweat(and in fact without Sweat and Chase its been much better, coincidence or not). He knew the rules and the chances, I think people are too bent out of shape about it but we live in that age and he gets paid the millions to deal with that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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