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1 hour ago, Burgundy Yoda said:

Trading up for Justin Fields might have been difficult and costly, but we could have easily traded up for Mac Jones. Trading up 5 spots would not have killed us, I wouldn't be surprised if Ron and Co. were hesitant on drafting and developing a rookie QB after what happened with Haskins. 

 

You really think the prior FO and Snyder (and Tanya lol) drafting Haskins made Rivera jumpy?...I don't see it, not from him.

 

 

42 minutes ago, TheShredder said:

This is going to be a big deal this year.

The depth of the roster will hurt teams like NY & Dallas.

Slow and steady wins the race, but at the end of everybody sprints with all they've got left.

WFT has superior depth in the East.

 

You win with starters in September, you win with depth in December.

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1 hour ago, Burgundy Yoda said:

It took me a long time to get on board, but mostly for me I felt like he could handle the mental aspects of the NFL more than anything. He just seemed to have that hyper competitive mentality needed to succeed at the NFL level, while having an above average arm. 

 

I don't think we can go into next season without a franchise QB in place. I dont have faith in Fitzpatricks ability to be called that and play like one, he's just a placeholder in my eyes. 

 

I like Fitz more than most but clearly he's not the future.  Mac throws well with anticipation, has insanely good accuracy from 1-10 yards, manipulates the secondary very well with his eyes and body language, really good with play action.  His limitations IMO are that his arm strength is just ok, he would under throw some deep balls, and he's not fast/mobile.  He has some sneaky mobility but nothing special.  Intangibles supposedly through the roof. 

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https://www.yahoo.com/sports/wft-camp-notes-two-stars-175410830.html

WFT camp notes: Two stars remain sidelined while the kicking unit has a hiccup

 

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As their date with the seriously-streaking Ravens looms, Washington put in another 90 minutes worth of work at their home facility on Wednesday.  Though the starters on both sides of the ball still got their fair share of action, the backup and third-string units were also heavily involved. Perhaps that is a hint of what's to come from Ron Rivera's squad at FedEx Field this weekend. As for a review of what the coach's bunch did on Wednesday, head right this way...

  • Here are a few items that have become routine at camp for Washington: The quarterbacks wear yellow jerseys, the sun never gives up and Curtis Samuel and William Jackson III trot over to the side fields for agility and light exercising once practice begins. Samuel came off of the PUP list on Aug. 15, but after doing individual drills that day, he hasn't practiced in any capacity since. Jackson III, meanwhile, has a leg issue that's preventing him from gelling with the rest of the secondary. “We’re pretty optimistic that some time next week we’ll have them out there,” Rivera said in his daily presser. Sure, Week 1 is still 18 days away, but that number is shrinking more and more and the receiver and corner just keep missing out. Maybe their absences won't prove to be a huge deal come the opener, but it feels like there will at least be some level of consequence because of them

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  • Ryan Fitzpatrick opened his afternoon up by dropping a deep shot right into the arms of Terry McLaurinwho came down with it in between Kam Curl and Torry McTyer. Back in late July, McLaurin told reporters that he'd like to get back to registering those game-changing catches he became known for as a rookie. Of course, there were many factors at play in 2020, but his yards-per-catch average did dip about three yards (from 15.8 to 12.9) from his rookie campaign to his second one. He and Fitz have linked up for their fair share of 40- and 50-or-so yarders this summer, so betting on McLaurin to raise his YPC in 2021 appears to be a smart bet

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  • Now, in the interest of transparency and accurate recapping, Fitzpatrick had a later throw that zoomed right over the head of Dyami Brown and directly to Bobby McCain, who converted the QB's mistake into an interceptionJust prepare yourself now for a couple of those this fall and winter, because they're coming.

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  • In a mid-session kicking period, Dustin Hopkins went 4-for-6 on his field-goal attempts. He hit the right upright on his first try, which came from about 40 yards out. After that, he was good from 35, 40 and 33. His next kick came from 43, which he once again banged off the right upright. However, Camaron Cheeseman's snap was a low one that Tress Way had to battle with before placing it down. Hopkins then finished by hitting a 45-yarder. The trio of specialists handled their three short kicks in their most recent preseason outing, but this particular stretch wasn't their best. Hopefully, they once again take care of business against the Ravens on Saturday.

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  • With Steven Sims in Buffalo now, the remaining punt returners are DeAndre Carter, Dax Milne and Isaiah Wright (Jaret Patterson seems to be relegated to just serving as a kick returner for now). Carter and Milne might be neck-and-neck as they contend for that last receiver spot, with Wright probably a step or two behind them. But still, any sort of highlight — or lowlight, for that matter — in the Baltimore contest could be a deciding factor when it's time for Washington to trim its depth chart down for the regular season. While all three got reps at returning on Wednesday, they're only asked to field the punt and take a couple of steps forward. There is no simulating the real thing at camp.

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  • With Casey Toohill still not healthy enough to suit up, could Daniel Wise sneak into a backup defensive end role for Washington? The 25-year-old Kansas product has yet to log a meaningful minute as a pro but he has spent time with the Cowboys and Cardinals franchises in the past and he's standing out a bit with the Burgundy and Gold (NBC Sports Washington's Mitch Tischler thinks Wise's rise has been going on for a couple of weeks now). He took the field early on versus Cincinnati, recovered a fumble and does hold his own in 1-on-1s with the offensive linemen in Ashburn. The exhibition finale matters quite a bit for his future, but at a minimum, he seems like a logical fit for the practice squad.

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  • Coordinator Jack Del Rio was awfully complimentary of what McTyer's done at camp, explaining to the media that the reserve corner has pleasantly surprised the staff with his consistent performance. It was the type of praise that came across as more significant than your typical presser remarks.

 

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19 minutes ago, Jumbo said:

In a mid-session kicking period, Dustin Hopkins went 4-for-6 on his field-goal attempts. He hit the right upright on his first try, which came from about 40 yards out. After that, he was good from 35, 40 and 33. His next kick came from 43, which he once again banged off the right upright. However, Camaron Cheeseman's snap was a low one that Tress Way had to battle with before placing it down. Hopkins then finished by hitting a 45-yarder. The trio of specialists handled their three short kicks in their most recent preseason outing, but this particular stretch wasn't their best. Hopefully, they once again take care of business against the Ravens on Saturday.

Why is every kick so short? I guess they're an extension of the practice, but going 4/6 on shorties is far from impressive. If he's iffy on 40 yarders how can the team trust him at 50 or 55?

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22 hours ago, Koolblue13 said:

He's the special team captain. 

 

And? Dwayne Haskins was a captain last year. Didn't even make it through the year. Bobby McCain was a captain in Miami. He got cut. Everett's maybe the 4th best safety on the roster. That's the optimistic view, but he's clearly behind Collins, Curl, and McCain. Then you have Reaves and Forrest. You have to believe Everett is really, really better at special teams than the rest of the roster to really justify his spot. Maybe he is, but if he isn't then he's gone.

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22 hours ago, Jericho said:

 

Everett wouldn't be much of a surprise, he's far from a lock. He's a back-up, who's expensive, and at a position of depth. In fact, I think the team would like to move on from Everett...if it can be fine with a decent replacement for the special teams.

I still think a surprise cut will be Barber. I think Everett makes it over Reaves.

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28 minutes ago, Borgold said:

Why is every kick so short? I guess they're an extension of the practice, but going 4/6 on shorties is far from impressive. If he's iffy on 40 yarders how can the team trust him at 50 or 55?


I’d really love to know why the guys only get in 6 total kicks for a practice. It’s all they do…. They’re not position players. Taking 6 kicks…. what’s that, about 15 minutes?

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5 minutes ago, Die Hard said:


I’d really love to know why the guys only get in 6 total kicks for a practice. It’s all they do…. They’re not position players. Taking 6 kicks…. what’s that, about 15 minutes?

Ha this is a good question but I would assume it means in like… a scrimmage situation? As opposed to just kicking off a tee or practicing with just the kicker, snapper and holder?

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I’m calling my shot on Reaves. He’s making the roster. I’m not sure if it’s at the expense of Everett or Forrest, but I think he has more potential than the former and is more of a known quantity than the latter. And he seems to be a high character guy who is loved by his teammates and coaches. 

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Of our 2021 draft picks, Forrest and Toney seem the most likely to make it on to our practice squad. Neither has made a name for himself during the preseason. I'm predicting that Reaves and Bradley-King make the roster. If B-K doesn't make it, I'm thinking it's likely to be Toohill or Wise who gets the spot...not Toney.  

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28 minutes ago, mudhog said:

I still think a surprise cut will be Barber. I think Everett makes it over Reaves.

 

I don't think that qualifies as a surprise. People have very liberal definitions of surprise. You know that 6th year RB who is bad at running and catching and no one else in the NFL wanted to sign as a free agent?

 

I thought Finlay and Keim had a decent definition of a surprise cut. A guy you thought would be a starter but ends up cut. Last year had two in Peterson and Davis. I might expand the definition a little to guys I'd label as roster locks. Neither Barber or Everett has come close to being a roster lock. A surprise cut would be someone like McKissic or Leno or Bostic or maybe even, and this might be a stretch, Tim Settle. I would personally consider all those guys roster locks.

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32 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said:

Reaves is a slow player and not good. Everett is better at FS and a ST captain, as well as under contract, while Reaves is on the last year of his rookie deal. Reaves is not making it over Everett. 

 

Barber is the only power back we have and isn't getting cut.

Reaves is an RFA next season. Depending on how they tender him, he’d probably still be cheaper to keep than Everett’s $2.3M cap hit in 2022. That’s a lot for a backup who’s going to be 30 years old.

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6 minutes ago, terpfan said:

Reaves is an RFA next season. Depending on how they tender him, he’d probably still be cheaper to keep than Everett’s $2.3M cap hit in 2022. That’s a lot for a backup who’s going to be 30 years old.

Hes proven reliable and he's one of our best players on teams. Not that he's someone we can't live without, but he's better than Reaves at both jobs.

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1 hour ago, dswerdlw said:

Of our 2021 draft picks, Forrest and Toney seem the most likely to make it on to our practice squad. Neither has made a name for himself during the preseason. I'm predicting that Reaves and Bradley-King make the roster. If B-K doesn't make it, I'm thinking it's likely to be Toohill or Wise who gets the spot...not Toney.  

I'm an Eagles fan who was ticked off when they casually released Toohill last September, thinking he would easily clear waivers and they would be able to slide him onto their practice squad and therefore be able to promote him on and off the active roster throughout the season. Instead, he got snagged by your team and they were stuck looking like idiots.

 

So I'm genuinely curious how he's doing. Is he a bubble guy? Or is it expected that he's going to make it? Has he done anything at all in the preseason games?

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1 minute ago, Franklin60 said:

I'm an Eagles fan who was ticked off when they casually released Toohill last September, thinking he would easily clear waivers and they would be able to slide him onto their practice squad and therefore be able to promote him on and off the active roster throughout the season. Instead, he got snagged by your team and they were stuck looking like idiots.

 

So I'm genuinely curious how he's doing. Is he a bubble guy? Or is it expected that he's going to make it? Has he done anything at all in the preseason games?

He's been injured for a few weeks now I think.

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