New Stadium News?

[Skinsinparadise]

 

 

 

 

[JamesMadisonSkins]

The only site that makes sense is the Dulles site (CIT/quarry) ... I will stand on the table for that site over any other in the DMV outside of RFK. RFK will not happen as long as Dan is the owner. But that might also be the case in Loudoun because they will not support a stadium with taxpayer dollars, especially for Danny boy.

 

Really starting to feel like ... if the team doesn't change ownership ... we are going to be absolutely screwed into a stadium complex rebuilt at Landover. Because nobody wants to work with Dan.

[Zim489]

Landover isn’t good. It’s pretty bad but it’s infinitely better than those 3 spots. FedEx wouldn’t be so hated if the stadium wasn’t awful. 
 

a stadium in of those 3 spots would be hated by anyone who doesn’t live within 20 mins of the stadium. Completely lose Maryland and DC fan bases.

[ixcuincle]

 

 

Moving the team to Richmond seems pointless.

 

Edited February 25, 2022 by ixcuincle

[profusion]

Dumfries?

 

Might just as well go all in and move 'em to Richmond if they're going to head that direction. 

 

I think even the Sterling location is too far out, and that's approximately where I live. There's a reason why exurban football stadiums aren't on the agenda anywhere else, and leave it to dummy Dan to end up with one for his zombie franchise.

 

edit: I hadn't seen the post above while I was writing this. Apparently I'm not the only one thinking this way!

Edited February 25, 2022 by profusion

[Zim489]

Any of the 3 options is an infinitely worse location than just leaving them in Landover

[samy316]

1 hour ago, profusion said:

Dumfries?

 

Might just as well go all in and move 'em to Richmond if they're going to head that direction. 

 

I think even the Sterling location is too far out, and that's approximately where I live. There's a reason why exurban football stadiums aren't on the agenda anywhere else, and leave it to dummy Dan to end up with one for his zombie franchise.

 

edit: I hadn't seen the post above while I was writing this. Apparently I'm not the only one thinking this way!

What can he do though?  There’s no way DC will work with him with Congress at his neck, and holding the purse strings.  Maryland might be better, but who wants to deal with Landover?  If they guarantee building a more accessible metro with a brand new development with bars and restaurants, then maybe.  National Harbor works, but again, can they get a metro station there?  If not, you’ll be dealing with horrific traffic on the beltway on gamedays.

 

Since VA is the only municipality willing to work with the team, they don’t really have a choice.  I ultimately think that they’ll find a new location in VA near the Silver Line in Ashburn.

[fullnelson9999]

2 hours ago, profusion said:

There's a reason why exurban football stadiums aren't on the agenda anywhere else, and leave it to dummy Dan to end up with one for his zombie franchise.

 

 

It never worked when they'd build a stadium surrounded by a massive parking lot and nothing else, but that doesn't seem to be the case here.  The proposed development surrounding the stadium seems to be right up Loudoun County's alley.

Edited February 25, 2022 by fullnelson9999

[mcees4life]

4 hours ago, JamesMadisonSkins said:

The only site that makes sense is the Dulles site (CIT/quarry) ... I will stand on the table for that site over any other in the DMV outside of RFK. RFK will not happen as long as Dan is the owner. But that might also be the case in Loudoun because they will not support a stadium with taxpayer dollars, especially for Danny boy.

 

Really starting to feel like ... if the team doesn't change ownership ... we are going to be absolutely screwed into a stadium complex rebuilt at Landover. Because nobody wants to work with Dan.

Rebuilding at Landover wouldn’t be bad if they actually put some thought into it this go around. Built an indoor capable stadium designed similar to Minnesota or Atlanta with 60,000 seats and all the bells and whistles. Build plenty of entertainment/food options right around it. And most importantly improve the road infrastructure to make it easy to get in and out of.  One reason why traffic was so bad was because 90,000 people was leaving at the same time at the conclusion of an event. If you decrease capacity to 60,000, provide plenty of places for people to hang out at after events, then you will have less total people and everyone naturally won’t be leaving at the same time. That would immensely help the flow of traffic 

Edited February 25, 2022 by mcees4life

[CRobi21]

 

Just leave Dan in Ashburn. He can ride the elevators (if they even have any there) and press all the buttons.

Edited February 25, 2022 by CRobi21

[dunfer]

Oh God please come to Richmond.

[JamesMadisonSkins]

If it’s in Richmond it can no longer be the Washington team.

 

It’s either RFK or Dulles. But the Loudoun Board will have something to say about the tax piece. 

[CobraCommander]

If they become the Virginia Commonwealth Commanders I’ll have a very hard time rooting for the team. At some point the Ravens will become the closer team to me.  

[dunfer]

50 minutes ago, CobraCommander said:

If they become the Virginia Commonwealth Commanders I’ll have a very hard time rooting for the team. At some point the Ravens will become the closer team to me.  

Down in richmond you dont have to drive to another town to buy beer on sunday

[dyst]

7 hours ago, Zim489 said:

Landover isn’t good. It’s pretty bad but it’s infinitely better than those 3 spots. FedEx wouldn’t be so hated if the stadium wasn’t awful. 
 

a stadium in of those 3 spots would be hated by anyone who doesn’t live within 20 mins of the stadium. Completely lose Maryland and DC fan bases.

There is a reason why the area around FEDEX never got developed in the 25+ years…its not desirable there. 

[CobraCommander]

2 hours ago, dunfer said:

Down in richmond you dont have to drive to another town to buy beer on sunday

I don’t have to do that now. Is that supposed to be some sort of incentive.

[dunfer]

Just now, CobraCommander said:

I don’t have to do that now. Is that supposed to be some sort of incentive.

lol i dunno last time me and my buddies drove up to fed ex (decade or so ago) i had to go find beer and apparently on sunday its a thing up there. Took me awhile

 

Down here in Richmond weve got apps that bring the beer to you even Sundays. And you can have weed too....and we have better breweries

[Koolblue13]

10 hours ago, CobraCommander said:

If they become the Virginia Commonwealth Commanders I’ll have a very hard time rooting for the team. At some point the Ravens will become the closer team to me.  

I use to pass 2 other stadiums to go see the Maryland football team that use to be the Washington Redskins play.

[Renegade7]

Now that the franchise is openly talked about development around the new stadium that cannot realisticly happen around the RFK site, this all but assures the stadium is going to be in Virginia.

 

I live in Woodbridge, a stadium in Dumfries would be a total cluster****, jus go to Dulles, make it official, and do everything you can to keep the new stadium metro accessible. 

 

Silver line will be done before they ever seriously stretch blue line to Dumfires (even though this was made public Metro and Viriginia were looking into this).

[dyst]

Towards Dulles there is a community being built, green space, townhomes, condos, shops, etc. Also near metro. I could see something like that.

[tomwvr]

On 2/25/2022 at 2:55 PM, ixcuincle said:

 

 

Moving the team to Richmond seems pointless.

 

Move them

to Richmond call them the Virginia commanders and then bring in an expansion team into dc. And give them a real name

[Commander PK]

My current order of preference based on the known possibilities...

 

1.) Commanders Stadium at RFK (sponsored by?) (This is far and away my #1)

2.) Somewhere else in D.C. 

3.) National Harbor (in or very close to)

3.) Virginia side of Woodrow Wilson bridge.  Within a few miles of the City at most.

4.) Rebuild at Fed Ex with a much better design and additional infrastructure.

52.) In or around Dulles or similar distance from the City.

 

 

[Commander PK]

On 2/25/2022 at 1:30 PM, JamesMadisonSkins said:

Because nobody wants to work with Dan.

 

I hear this all the time, but do people really believe this to be the case?  I mean what evidence is there that "nobody" wants to work with Dan?  I haven't heard D.C, Maryland, or Virginia claim that they "don't want to deal with Dan Snyder."  

 

I don't want this to be taken as me defending Dan.  I absolutely get the dislike for him, but the local jurisdictions "not wanting to work with him" sounds like hyperbole to me.  Money talks, and there is a lot of money to be made for having an NFL team.  Even if that team is owned by Dan Snyder.    

Seems to me the obstacle they had to overcome was the name.  Now both Maryland and D.C. appear to be back in play.

[Mrshadow008]

4 hours ago, Commander PK said:

My current order of preference based on the known possibilities...

 

1.) Commanders Stadium at RFK (sponsored by?) (This is far and away my #1)

2.) Somewhere else in D.C. 

3.) National Harbor (in or very close to)

3.) Virginia side of Woodrow Wilson bridge.  Within a few miles of the City at most.

4.) Rebuild at Fed Ex with a much better design and additional infrastructure.

52.) In or around Dulles or similar distance from the City.

 

 

Unfortunately at the moment the last two are the only realistic options. And out of those two and I know you disagree but the last is the better of the two options. Landover and the state of Maryland have had since 1997 to build up infrastructure around fedex and capitalize on the stadium being there and landover is a dump and a large reason a lot of people don’t wanna go to the stadium anymore. I’ve met quite a few fans that have said they won’t go back until there’s a new stadium in a new area. You won’t have those same complaints about the area surrounding the stadium in Dulles area. And it’s also about to have metro access plus access to the airport and most of the players/coaches/personnel live in Loudon anyways. I know most want RFK but I think that’s honestly one of the least likely options at the moment 

[Voice_of_Reason]

So I just want to point something out, regardless of what I want: Virginia politicians are going to want this thing as far into VA as they possibly can get it, and they are going to want it in an area which could use some significant economic growth.

 

The assumption is they are going to build a "Command Center" or "Commander Land" which will include, at the very least:

- A "climate controlled" stadium so they can have up to 100 events there a year.  That's 2 a week.  

- A resort/conference hotel.  Parts of the stadium probably double as conference facilities.  

- At the bare minimum a sports book, very possibly a full Goddamn Casino.  If you build a Casino, they will come.  Period.  

- An "amphitheater" to hold other live shows and other such sundries.

- The new Team facility.  Which means WHAMMO you have an additional 20-50 millionaires probably living somewhere reasonably close the facility.  

 

I think the VA politicians WANT this in Dumfries.  It expands the scope of "Northern VA" a ways further south. If you put something like this into an area, the thought is all kinds of things would come up around it.  

 

They would absolutely HAVE to figure out some type of public transportation, and my bet is there is light rail and possibly even some river transportation involved. The site is right on the river.  There is no reason they couldn't have something like a somewhat smaller version of the Staton Island Ferry to bring literally boatloads of people into and out of the area in a fairly cost effective manner.    

 

I would prefer it not go there, but I absolutely 100% see why the VA politicians WANT it there, and would make it extremely enticing to the team to put it there.  

 

Loudon doesn't need this type of development.