Heinicke Hive: The LEGEND of Taylor Heinicke Thread

[duffy]

1 hour ago, mistertim said:

This could go so many other ways though, so it's a borderline pointless argument to make. The Chargers would probably have put up at minimum another 2 TDs on us if it weren't for an incredibly bad fumble call and a couple of blatant drops by their WRs.

That's fair. I'm simply saying that Heineke was in position to grt the win if not for a costly fumble. But you're right, other events could have gone another way and he wouldn't have been in that position. The comment I was responding to seemed to be slightly blaming Heineke for not getting the win. 

[Malapropismic Depository]

1 hour ago, my_friend_goo said:

Honestly, I won't care if the passes aren't pretty or pinpoint accurate if they keep on ending up in the hands of our receivers, the chains move and the points keep coming. It's a lot to ask at this much higher level of play though.

 

 

 

I wish more people had this perspective.

We've had so many years and decades of QB futility (with a couple exceptions) who mostly could not accomplish what you stated. And every fan was depressed because of it.

Now we apparently have one who can do just that. And are we going to be unhappy just because his passes aren't pretty ?

Can we be grateful for what we have, and the traits that have been so hard to find over the years ?

If he gets a chance to start for a while, and ends up winning games for us, even though it's not pretty, can we appreciate that ?

If we keep looking, or keep waiting for the perfect QB, we will be waiting for a long time.

 

 

1 hour ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

 

 

 

I think a lot of us would like to know the reaction from Chase Young, in particular

 

Edited September 13, 2021 by Malapropismic Depository

[Peregrine]

Heinicke did a great job coming in, again, and if he can keep his talent level and play up to where he has been in his last few games, he will have a great season.  That of course is the big if. 

 

Keep in mind, he only got 5 drives, 3 of those were scoring drives(except missed FG), 1 of those was a fumble where he never got to throw a pass.  The last drive he drove us down again deep into Chargers territory but got it pushed back because of a clipping penalty.  Basically there wasnt a single drive where the offense didnt drive down the field when he had the ball.

[Burgundy Yoda]

Once again Heinicke looks pretty good. His off-key playmaking ability buys the offense some time and he finds ways to move the ball down the field. He likes to throw high but I think overall he's a starter in this league. Hard to think of a comp for him. 

[Peregrine]

1 hour ago, Rocky21 said:

I know some of you are pretty damn excited about Heinicke.

 

Just remember he’s won as many games as a starting QB in the N F L as your Mom.

Good point, and remember, Tom Brady has won as many games starting for WFT as my Dad.

[mistertim]

16 minutes ago, duffy said:

That's fair. I'm simply saying that Heineke was in position to grt the win if not for a costly fumble. But you're right, other events could have gone another way and he wouldn't have been in that position. The comment I was responding to seemed to be slightly blaming Heineke for not getting the win. 

 

Yeah that loss certainly isn't on Heinicke. He did a good job with what he had.

[mistertim]

11 minutes ago, Burgundy Yoda said:

Once again Heinicke looks pretty good. His off-key playmaking ability buys the offense some time and he finds ways to move the ball down the field. He likes to throw high but I think overall he's a starter in this league. Hard to think of a comp for him. 

 

I know it's borderline blasphemy to compare one of our guys to a Dallas player, but he kind of reminds me of a poor man's Tony Romo. He doesn't have Romo's size or arm but he has some of Romo's slipperiness in the pocket and ability to get outside and make off-schedule plays. 

[PartyPosse]

Remember that LA had a scheme against a much different QB. A scheme that relied on a less mobile QB which meant a more aggressive front 4. Thankfully it’s a short week which means giants don’t have a ton of time to prepare for that either.

[ODU AGGIE]

1 minute ago, mistertim said:

 

I know it's borderline blasphemy to compare one of our guys to a Dallas player, but he kind of reminds me of a poor man's Tony Romo. He doesn't have Romo's size or arm but he has some of Romo's slipperiness in the pocket and ability to get outside and make off-schedule plays. 

I actually think that is a solid comparison with your size and arm caveats. 

[Malapropismic Depository]

The week before the Chargers game in the game preview thread, people were posting pics of the OLine wearing Fitz shirts.

I replied, "do they have these in their lockers, just in case ?"

Strange how things worked out.

I wonder if anyone expected this to come so soon.

 

 

[CobraCommander]

49 minutes ago, Malapropismic Depository said:

 

That's not true. He did not get injured in his first game he played for us. His first game was Carolina in Week 16.

He played extremely well that game, for a 102.3 Rating. And did not get hurt.

So he's played more like, almost 2 and a half games for us.

Yes, he gutted it out against Tampa. But still...

He has missed zero time due to injury.

And his performance has not suffered at all, due to injury.

So his bumps and bruises in the Tampa game were a non-issue then, and are a non-issue now.

 

 

I disagree, because I never hear that criticism of other starting NFL QB's, who have a similar playing style as Heinicke.

It seems like, if we get a QB who is not mobile, he gets called a statue; Then if we get a QB who actually is mobile, then he's a "reckless injury waiting to happen"

 

 

Lol. Ok. Time will tell if he can endure an NFL season. 

[NickyJ]

Everyone's talking about Heinicke, but Kyle Allen just got his foot back in the door after being seemingly shut out behind the playoff starter and the free agent signing. Allen is one brittle Heinicke away from being a starter again.

[Malapropismic Depository]

2 minutes ago, Florgon79 said:

Lol. Ok. Time will tell if he can endure an NFL season. 

 

Let's wait it out, and ride it out, and most importantly enjoy the ride !

 

[ODU AGGIE]

1 minute ago, NickyJ said:

Everyone's talking about Heinicke, but Kyle Allen just got his foot back in the door after being seemingly shut out behind the playoff starter and the free agent signing. Allen is one brittle Heinicke away from being a starter again.

And hopefully, he will be that way a very, very, long, long time.

[NickyJ]

Just now, ODU AGGIE said:

And hopefully, he will be that way a very, very, long, long time.

In Heinicke years, that's 2 weeks from now, just in time for a QB controversy between Kyle and a returning Fitz.

[Chris 44]

6 minutes ago, NickyJ said:

Everyone's talking about Heinicke, but Kyle Allen just got his foot back in the door after being seemingly shut out behind the playoff starter and the free agent signing. Allen is one brittle Heinicke away from being a starter again.

I hope the foot in the door isnt his bad one and it gets hit.  lol

[Malapropismic Depository]

 

10 minutes ago, NickyJ said:

Everyone's talking about Heinicke, but Kyle Allen just got his foot back in the door

 

2 minutes ago, Chris 44 said:

I hope the foot in the door isnt his bad one and it gets hit.  lol

 

Or that he doesn't try "kicking in" that door, to get in...

 

https://larrybrownsports.com/football/vikings-qb-taylor-heinicke-injury-door/314744

 

[ODU AGGIE]

Taylor Heinicke, 6'1", 210 lbs, QB

 

Oshane Ximines, 6'4", 250 lbs, OLB

     

 

These two Monarchs will get reacquainted Thursday night! Let's go, TH!                       

Edited September 13, 2021 by ODU AGGIE

[my_friend_goo]

45 minutes ago, Malapropismic Depository said:

 

I wish more people had this opinion.

We've had so many years and decades of QB futility (with a couple exceptions) who mostly could not accomplish what you stated. And every fan was depressed because of it.

Now we apparently have one who can do just that. And are we going to be unhappy just because his passes aren't pretty ?

Can we be grateful for what we have, and the traits that have been so hard to find over the years ?

If he gets a chance to start for a while, and ends up winning games for us, even though it's not pretty, can we appreciate that ?

If we keep looking, or keep waiting for the perfect QB, we will be waiting for a long time.

 

I do try to stay level headed 😁

 

Just bear in mind that this isn't akin to finding the perfect soul mate on a personal and emotional level and then complaining that they ain't much to look at.

 

This is asking your starting quarterback to possess some of the most critical skillsets that pretty much all of the most consistently successful NFL quarterbacks possess. That to me is where most of the concern lies. Of course, there's many elements that add up to ensuring the ball keeps ending up in the hands of your receivers, but being able to drop the ball to exactly where they and only they can get their hands on it and/or exactly when they're open makes up a big part of that.

Edited September 13, 2021 by my_friend_goo

[mistertim]

16 minutes ago, NickyJ said:

Everyone's talking about Heinicke, but Kyle Allen just got his foot back in the door after being seemingly shut out behind the playoff starter and the free agent signing. Allen is one brittle Heinicke away from being a starter again.

 

I'm wondering if they bring someone else in if Fitz ends up being out for an extended period. Heinicke has been injury prone in the past and Allen is coming back from a really bad ankle injury. Betting on both of those guys staying healthy may not not be a great idea.

[Malapropismic Depository]

 

2 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

He's very comfortable throwing to the right, not as much to the left as far as accuracy based on his own admission.  The way I think I'd play him is force him as much as possible to stay in the pocket.  Heinicke seems to be at his best on the move. 

 

 

 

Would you say maybe, that his "improv ability" may make it harder for other teams and DC's to gameplan against him, versus a guy who stays put in the pocket and is predictable, etc ?

So maybe, even with teams getting a chance to watch more film on him, study him, and game-plan and adjust for him, won't necessarily negate his positive traits - since he's so freakin unpredictable ?

Not just his mobility, but his vision. His ability to speed through 5 reads, is off the charts according to some coaches.

 

 

 

Edited September 13, 2021 by Malapropismic Depository

[Idaho fan]

5 minutes ago, mistertim said:

 

I'm wondering if they bring someone else in if Fitz ends up being out for an extended period. Heinicke has been injury prone in the past and Allen is coming back from a really bad ankle injury. Betting on both of those guys staying healthy may not not be a great idea.

At this point what's the over under for number of starting QBs this year?  Id guess 3.   

 

Still can't believe Fitz didn't even last a half.

[Burgundy Yoda]

30 minutes ago, mistertim said:

 

I know it's borderline blasphemy to compare one of our guys to a Dallas player, but he kind of reminds me of a poor man's Tony Romo. He doesn't have Romo's size or arm but he has some of Romo's slipperiness in the pocket and ability to get outside and make off-schedule plays. 

Yeah I can definitely see a Romo-Lite comparison. I still question his arm... it seems like everything completed is off-schedule passes lol. What does Heinicke look like when things are going right?

[ODU AGGIE]

15 minutes ago, mistertim said:

 

I'm wondering if they bring someone else in if Fitz ends up being out for an extended period. Heinicke has been injury prone in the past and Allen is coming back from a really bad ankle injury. Betting on both of those guys staying healthy may not not be a great idea.

QB Kyle Shurmur added to the practice squad according to the Virginian-Pilot. They also report that Fitz will be out at least three weeks.

Edited September 13, 2021 by ODU AGGIE

[Kelvin Bryant]

53 minutes ago, Burgundy Yoda said:

Once again Heinicke looks pretty good. His off-key playmaking ability buys the offense some time and he finds ways to move the ball down the field. He likes to throw high but I think overall he's a starter in this league. Hard to think of a comp for him. 

Maybe Doug Flutie.