A New Start! (the Reboot) The Front Office, Ownership, & Coaching Staff Thread

[RabidFan]

1 hour ago, Gurgeh said:

What does a billionaire have to do before they are held accountable?

 

 

First he has to lose his net worth so he can't be above the law anymore.

 

I'm curious if this so called internal investigation being run by that hired attorney of Dan's would have any of this information in her report.  Too bad they didn't file a report first with a Frank Dreben nothing to see here line after ousting the bad apples, then these articles came out.  Would show the corruption and idiocy of Goodell by not ordering his own impartial 3rd party investigation.

[Skinsinparadise]

 

 

 

 

 

[FS#21]

9 minutes ago, spjunkies said:

 

I'm sure Dan took care of Larry's pockets when he was allowed to "resign". I seriously doubt he'll turn heel on his pal.

 

Oh please. This is sweet revenge for what he did to Herzog and even more funny in this scenario that Dan has to trust this sleezeball to not turn on him.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Yeah, Mike Wise doesn't have an axe to grind or anything.

 

The people who have been against Snyder for a long time are nothing new.  We need some people who previously have been ambivalent towards him to turn against him and mount some pressure.

[Dissident2]

9 minutes ago, spjunkies said:

 

I'm sure Dan took care of Larry's pockets when he was allowed to "resign". I seriously doubt he'll turn heel on his pal.

 

It depends on what the alternative is. If this goes to trial, and it comes down to it was either Larry or Dan who asked these to be made, that truth will come out. I hope. If Dan did ask for it, which I believe, then Larry - if he chooses to take the fall - will basically be totally destroying what's left of his reputation, possibly ruining his family, possibly being on the hook for millions ... and if all he has to do to avoid that is say, "Yeah, it was Dan" ... I don't know, that may not be that hard of a choice, no matter how much money he's been paid so far. It'll be interesting, for sure. 

[profusion]

2 minutes ago, RabidFan said:

Would show the corruption and idiocy of Goodell by not ordering his own impartial 3rd party investigation.

 

Goodell is an errand boy for the more powerful owners like Mara, Kraft and  Jerruh. He doesn't do anything on his own.

 

The NFL is a small, interconnected world. I guarantee there are other owners who know about at least some of this stuff. They're loathe to act against a member of their club, but I'm there are dossiers ready to go if they do.

[Califan007 The Constipated]

4 hours ago, Riggo#44 said:

 

Yes, I did he DC Metro Area--I believe it's included

 

I could never remember if the "Metro area" included parts of VA and MD, even when I lived there for like 20 years lol...

[E-Class]

Just let me know when we can start calling them the washington redbezos's

[spjunkies]

3 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said:

Yeah, Mike Wise doesn't have an axe to grind or anything.

 

The people who have been against Snyder for a long time are nothing new.  We need some people who previously have been ambivalent towards him to turn against him and mount some pressure.

 

Who is pro Snyder? I think most just tolerated him since it seemed like he wasn't going anywhere. 

[Dissident2]

1 minute ago, profusion said:

 

Goodell is an errand boy for the more powerful owners like Mara, Kraft and  Jerruh. He doesn't do anything on his own.

 

The NFL is a small, interconnected world. I guarantee there are other owners who know about at least some of this stuff. They're loathe to act against a member of their club, but I'm there are dossiers ready to go if they do.

 

I think "their club" is important here. What has Snyder done to "their club"? All of these things reflect HORRIBLY on "their club." Kraft did something wrong and embarrassing, but he's a great owner from the football side of things, and what he did was a reflection on him and him alone. It was something done outside the organization. Here we have incidents involving NFL CHEERLEADERS, as well as the people working in the building. I don't know, people keep comparing this to Kraft, but I see a huge difference here. That, plus the fact that there's NO WAY Snyder is liked by these guys. His actions as reported in this story, just the next in a chain that ends who knows where, are hurting ALL owners and the NFL as a whole. That's a big difference in my eyes. If this was the mafia, someone would be inviting little Danny out for a "fun ride."

[Burgundy Yoda]

9 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said:

Yeah, Mike Wise doesn't have an axe to grind or anything.

 

The people who have been against Snyder for a long time are nothing new.  We need some people who previously have been ambivalent towards him to turn against him and mount some pressure.

25+ women don't count?

 

Edit: If this was an opinion article I would have your same thoughts. 

Edited August 26, 2020 by Burgundy Yoda

[TD_washingtonredskins]

6 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said:

Yeah, Mike Wise doesn't have an axe to grind or anything.

 

The people who have been against Snyder for a long time are nothing new.  We need some people who previously have been ambivalent towards him to turn against him and mount some pressure.

 

I think we are far beyond "name change agenda" stuff here. He directed his employees to produce a nude video against people's wishes. That's disgusting man. 

[TradeTheBeal!]

The video thing really could get him forced out.

 

Let justice be done.

[Califan007 The Constipated]

Videotaping the cheerleaders is beyond the pale...somebody, no matter who did it and/or who ordered it to be done, needs to face some serious repercussions. That is abhorrent. (full disclosure, I tend to be VERY protective of models since I've worked with my share of models during photo shoots, so I may not be very objective here).

 

The "don't eat smelly food at your desk" and make sure the toilet paper rolls are folded to a point are absolutely nothing. They should have left stuff like that out.

Edited August 26, 2020 by Califan007

[profusion]

7 minutes ago, Dissident2 said:

If this was the mafia, someone would be inviting little Danny out for a "fun ride."

 

It's probably more like politics. Snyder will have an extremely sudden desire to "spend more time with his family." 😄

Edited August 26, 2020 by profusion

[DCranon21]

I do believe Jerry Richardson was forced out on sexual misconduct. This was going on for over 20 years. This maybe death blow for Snyder. This is now trending and national news.

[Spaceman Spiff]

11 minutes ago, spjunkies said:

 

Who is pro Snyder? I think most just tolerated him since it seemed like he wasn't going anywhere. 

 

As I said, "ambivalent" aka most just tolerating him.

 

7 minutes ago, Burgundy Yoda said:

25+ women don't count?

 

Edit: If this was an opinion article I would have your same thoughts. 

 

It's sad, but no they don't, apparently.  You and I would say differently, but in the court of public opinion and, more importantly to Goodell and the boys club NFL owners, they don't.  

 

Nothing happened to Snyder after the first cheerleading scandal.  Nothing happened to Snyder after the article last month.  Is there a reason to believe that all of a sudden they'll matter?  

 

Said it before, I'll say it again...Snyder has to say something racist to sell. You guys that are saying AS BAD AS JERRY RICHARDSON are forgetting that a big part of what got Jerry kicked out is using racial slurs.

 

Edited August 26, 2020 by Spaceman Spiff

[hail2skins]

2 minutes ago, Califan007 said:

Videotaping the cheerleaders is beyond the pale...somebody, no matter who did it and/or who ordered it to be done, needs to face some serious repercussions. That is abhorrent. (full disclosure, I tend to be VERY protective of models since I've worked with my share of models during photo shoots, so I may not be very objective here).

 

The "don't eat smelly food at your desk" and make sure the toilet paper rolls are folded to a point are absolutely nothing. They should have left stuff like that out.

You mean the part where he demanded that his paper clips all face the same way didn't outrage you??  Man, how numb are we as a society? 😁

[Califan007 The Constipated]

2 minutes ago, hail2skins said:

You mean the part where he demanded that his paper clips all face the same way didn't outrage you??  Man, how numb are we as a society? 😁

 

The paper clips thing made me laugh lol...but I also thought that, if true, it shines a light onto a part of Snyder's psyche.

 

The other stuff in that part of the article was *yawn* in my eyes...calling him "Mr. Snyder" or "Sir" hardly makes the needle move. The videotaping made my blood boil, though

Edited August 26, 2020 by Califan007

[profusion]

I don't buy conspiracy theories, but it doesn't seem impossible that other owners are behind this second wave story against Dan. Maybe they're going to "bring the pain" until he sells. They'd certainly rather have Bezos in The Club than Captain Crown Royal.

 

The Post says they didn't have the videos back when the first story ran. Some of those involved have worked or are working elsewhere in the NFL. Lafemina's guys knew some of the stuff in this article. I'd guess there's more and worse of this (though not the kooky "Epstein's pal" stuff) available to the league.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

4 minutes ago, Califan007 said:

Videotaping the cheerleaders is beyond the pale...somebody, no matter who did it and/or who ordered it to be done, needs to face some serious repercussions. That is abhorrent. (full disclosure, I tend to be VERY protective of models since I've worked with my share of models during photo shoots, so I may not be very objective here).

 

The "don't eat smelly food at your desk" and make sure the toilet paper rolls are folded to a point are absolutely nothing. They should have left stuff like that out.

 

Yeah, I think the important/new aspects of this story should have been highlighted more. They spent a lot of time regurgitating older storylines and watered things down with him being a tough boss to work for. That just detracts from him directly pimping a cheerleader out to a friend of his and suggesting they go to a hotel room and directing the raw footage of the cheerleader video be cut into a soft-core porn for the executives of the team. 

[Panninho]

I feel so bad for Ron Rivera. As if having cancer is not enough for a single person he has to deal with this constant ****. And this will impact his daily work.

 

The NFL has already lost all credibility when they didn't do **** last time. I am not betting on them doing the right thing now. They don't care about women, because the society does not care as much about them either. If he had treated black people like this he would have been gone a long time ago - and rightfully so. This is horrific.

[tshile]

11 minutes ago, DCranon21 said:

I do believe Jerry Richardson was forced out on sexual misconduct. This was going on for over 20 years. This maybe death blow for Snyder. This is now trending and national news.

Up to #10 on twitter trending

its moving slowly but it’s moving. 

[Spaceman Spiff]

8 minutes ago, Califan007 said:

 

The paper clips thing made me laugh lol...but I also thought that, if true, it shines a light onto a part of Snyder's psyche.

 

The other stuff in that part of the article was *yawn* in my eyes...calling him "Mr. Snyder" or "Sir" hardly makes the needle move. The videotaping made my blood boil, though

 

Snyder rolling around Ashburn like 

 

[tshile]

12 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said:

Nothing happened to Snyder after the first cheerleading scandal.  Nothing happened to Snyder after the article last month.  Is there a reason to believe that all of a sudden they'll matter?  

Yes... the original story was not even close to as bad as this. And the story last month never directly implicated snyder. 
 

this one is both way worse and directly implicated him. 
 

filming people naked without their permission and sharing it is all kinds of illegal. 
 

will the outcome be different? Who knows right now. But lumping all 3 into the same general category and saying there’s nothing different this time is incorrect.