Warhead36 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Koolblue13 said: Alex Smith is definitely a big reason that all of a sudden the Oline looks good. Yep that is generally the case. Competent QB play tends to make OLs look better. It reminds me of back when we had Jason Campbell getting sacked all the time and all of a sudden when Todd Collins comes in the OL look like the Hogs. Or when we went from RG3 to Cousins. Its funny how the best QBs tend to have the best OLs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malapropismic Depository Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Steinmetz came in near the end of the game. Was that due to injury, or just to give linemen a rest ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stone Cold Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Alex gets thru his reads super quick and gets the ball out. Unless there’s immediate inside pressure, Alex is gonna get the ball to someone. I’ve had my reservations regarding Alex but I’m happy to acknowledge that his playing style marries well with what turners offense appears to be tryin to do. ....is it possible we’re....improving?...lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 I’m coming around to the idea of trying to retain both Roullier and Scherff. I think with Schweitzer that is a becoming a very good interior. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 We have to give John Matsko huge props for the job he has done. Nearly all these guys are playing at career best levels. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carex Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 I would be perfectly happy with us starting Wes Schweitzer at LG next year the way he's played so far 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 3 hours ago, UK SKINS FAN 74 said: I’m coming around to the idea of trying to retain both Roullier and Scherff. I think with Schweitzer that is a becoming a very good interior. Roullier has played consistent and always healthy. I have warmed to trying to resigning him. Scherff is great for the 10 games a year he is healthy. His health and size of contract scare me. I do wish they had extended him last year. Agree with Schweitzer. If he continues his play he should be next years starter at LG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veteranskinsfan Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 I thought we would miss Our old line coach but this new offensive line coach is doing a good job of mixing player combinations due to injuries. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malapropismic Depository Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, veteranskinsfan said: I thought we would miss Our old line coach but this new offensive line coach is doing a good job of mixing player combinations due to injuries. Yea, I knew he would be good, after looking at his resume after the hire. Thing I don't get is, why is there such a huge chasm between our run and pass blocking ? Our run blocking has been outstanding. But practically every pass play, the whole OLine immediately collapses and gets pushed back into the QB face. Even weirder, it was exactly that way with Callahan too. So, a different OL coach, and a few different players - and same result of good run blocking, with simultaneously poor pass blocking. Edited November 27, 2020 by Malapropismic Depository Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinny21 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 I’m happy with the oline. They can’t sell a rb screen for **** though (apparently). I’d be shelving those for the foreseeable future. I think the multiple motions, and misdirections have helped the oline a good bit. I’m not sure I love the empty backfield at times, though it’s generally worked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panninho Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Take PFF for what it's worth but our primary starters Scherff, Roullier, Schweizer and Moses all currently have grades that easily exceed their best career year in the PFF grading system. John Matsko has really done a great job with this uni. Also might open up the opportunity to prioritize other roster holes going forward if we extend Roullier and Scherff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrepDC Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 I'm still looking to upgrade the OL with a Tackle + Guard/Center in the draft. Smith helps the OL by being a predominantly check down guy who gets the ball out quick, but I'd like to see our offense continue to evolve. We will need 1 or 2 upgrades for that to be possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyHolt Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 (edited) Who are these guys. I like em! That huge hole for Gibson on his 3rd TD was a thing a beauty and back breaker in one, which ruined thanksgiving proper for our preferred enemy. I am so glad Callahan is finally gone. His OL units couldn't handle stunts, repeatedly and couldn't even establish an identity. I still wonder about his super blow loss and abandoning the gamplan/playbook that set even his star players off. Edited November 28, 2020 by RandyHolt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Hard Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 17 hours ago, Malapropismic Depository said: Yea, I knew he would be good, after looking at his resume after the hire. Thing I don't get is, why is there such a huge chasm between our run and pass blocking ? Our run blocking has been outstanding. But practically every pass play, the whole OLine immediately collapses and gets pushed back into the QB face. Even weirder, it was exactly that way with Callahan too. So, a different OL coach, and a few different players - and same result of good run blocking, with simultaneously poor pass blocking. Recency bias. When Callahan took over, we went to a power blocking scheme... which never fit our previous personnel. And we couldn’t run the ball at all under Gruden. But they excelled at pass blocking. And why our pass-run ratio was 60-40. And the team couldn’t ever convert short-yardage for first downs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) Has Ismael played at all this season at C or G? Seems there are hopes he takes over for Roullier. Edited November 30, 2020 by DWinzit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I'd rather just resign Roullier. He's been pretty solid and dependable since year 1 and I doubt he breaks the bank since he's not an All Pro type guy. We should be able to retain him for a fairly good price. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 On 11/25/2020 at 7:11 AM, Koolblue13 said: Alex Smith is definitely a big reason that all of a sudden the Oline looks good. Helping his pass pro out with quick throws, but it's not much of a passing game. However, when we play two fronts as shockingly soft as the Bengals and Cowboys were, then we can run the ball and score a ton of points on the ground. Schweitzer has been good. Been a tone setter along with Scherff. They bullied those defensive lines the past two games. Hopefully something weird happens with the Steelers game and they come into our match up exhausted. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: I'd rather just resign Roullier. He's been pretty solid and dependable since year 1 and I doubt he breaks the bank since he's not an All Pro type guy. We should be able to retain him for a fairly good price. He’s playing top ten for his position this year. Could be looking at 8m per year, don’t know, what do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswerdlw Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Outside of Moses, we don't have a proven starter at tackle. While I'm hoping Charles is that guy, I lean toward drafting a tackle in the first three rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, dswerdlw said: Outside of Moses, we don't have a proven starter at tackle. While I'm hoping Charles is that guy, I lean toward drafting a tackle in the first three rounds. Same here. ideally I hope we are in a suitable draft position to go QB/ OT first 2 picks. LB, TE, FS soon after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panninho Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, dswerdlw said: Outside of Moses, we don't have a proven starter at tackle. While I'm hoping Charles is that guy, I lean toward drafting a tackle in the first three rounds. Absolutely. Also you can never have too many good O-liners. But if we don't re-sign Scherff & Roullier we will be forced to draft there anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswerdlw Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 We should resign Scherff and Roullier not only because they are good players, but also because of how that commitment would affirm the culture of responsibility that Rivera wants to instill. It's kind of like going for it on fourth down because you want to show the players you believe in their ability and desire to succeed. During a rebuild, those investments are necessary. If we had a rock solid culture of winning, I could see letting Scherff or Roullier go...but we don't have that culture yet. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 hour ago, dswerdlw said: We should resign Scherff and Roullier not only because they are good players, but also because of how that commitment would affirm the culture of responsibility that Rivera wants to instill. It's kind of like going for it on fourth down because you want to show the players you believe in their ability and desire to succeed. During a rebuild, those investments are necessary. If we had a rock solid culture of winning, I could see letting Scherff or Roullier go...but we don't have that culture yet. this is where I’m at too. OL coach has got the unit working much better. would solidify the interior for next season. We have Charles coming back healthy, hopefully. Add another tackle prospect the draft too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Hard to let Scherff walk when we don't have a pipeline of developmental talent on the OL built yet. Ismael and Charles aren't enough to let go of a good vet, especially when we have cap space. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, UK SKINS FAN 74 said: He’s playing top ten for his position this year. Could be looking at 8m per year, don’t know, what do you think? You could be correct but probably high for him. I wish they would approach him and Settle now about an extension. The longer you wait the higher the price will probably go and the more chance of others bidding on him if he reaches FA...then you let him walk or at least hope for the ability to match offers. Edited November 30, 2020 by DWinzit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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