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Fox News: DeSantis announces Florida will start opening businesses Monday with restrictions

 

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Florida’s Gov. Ron DeSantis announced Wednesday that beginning Monday, restaurants and stores will be allowed to reopen at 25 percent capacity -- kicking off phase one of the state’s reopening plan.

 

During an afternoon press conference -- as the state's stay-at-home order expires Thursday -- DeSantis said the order would exclude Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach counties. But the Republican governor said those counties will be able to enter phase one of the reopening plan “soon.”

 

All parts of Florida would be allowed to resume elective surgeries, he said.

 

Both restaurants and retail -- which DeSantis said have always been allowed to operate curbside pickup and delivery -- will be allowed to bring in customers at a 25 percent capacity, and outdoor dining will be opened so long as tables are spaced six feet apart. Still, the governor called for masks to be used in "face-to-face business."

 

 

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12 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said:

@LadySkinsFan  Been seeing that meme going around.  Just pointing out that we “could” have a booming economy while also having a populace too stupid to save enough money to go without 2 paychecks.  And yes I know there are many who couldn’t save that much.  But there are plenty who could have.  

 

If people were saving, then there would have been an corresponding economic impact.  The economy was being driven by spending.

 

(Saved money realistically becomes investment capital, but considering interest rates were low it is hard to argue that the savings/increased investment would have caused the economy to grow to the same extent.  When interest rates are lower, more savings generating more money for investments isn't likely going to grow the economy much.)

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12 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said:

@LadySkinsFan  Been seeing that meme going around.  Just pointing out that we “could” have a booming economy while also having a populace too stupid to save enough money to go without 2 paychecks.  And yes I know there are many who couldn’t save that much.  But there are plenty who could have.  

 

Not enough to make a difference, not when even Corporations and Oil companies either blowing through their rainy day fund or don't have one *cough *cough Boeing.  It was booming for someone, but not most of us.

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8 minutes ago, PeterMP said:

 

If people were saving, then there would have been an corresponding economic impact.  The economy was being driven by spending.

Over the course of a couple years, it is not unreasonable to expect a large chunk of people could have saved up a month or two of pay without that much impact to the economy.  Anyways, not trying to say the economy was booming greatly.  More that the two aren’t commingled.  

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Does anyone remember that clip of a white supremacist, protester taking off his shirt and trying to blend in with the crowd in Charlottesville when things went "down"? When a guy with a camera called him out, he said something along the lines of "I just want to have fun". I'm wondering when these "protesters" will realize that everyone thinks that they're idiots and go home? When they get sick and die? I can live with that.

 

Can someone explain to me why these tea party/maga dolts always think that doing and saying the dumbest things make them a patriot?

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Holding games at Disney World might be the only way to save the NBA season  

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Georgia’s Experiment in Human Sacrifice

 

At first, Derek Canavaggio thought he would be able to ride out the coronavirus pandemic at home until things were safe. As a bar manager at the Globe in Athens, Georgia, Canavaggio hasn’t been allowed to work for weeks. Local officials in Athens issued Georgia’s first local shelter-in-place order on March 19, canceling the events that usually make spring a busy time for Athens bars and effectively eliminating the city’s rowdy downtown party district built around the University of Georgia. The state’s governor, Brian Kemp, followed in early April with a statewide shutdown.

 

But then the governor sent Canavaggio into what he calls “spreadsheet hell.” In an announcement last week, Kemp abruptly reversed course on the shutdown, ending many of his own restrictions on businesses and overruling those put in place by mayors throughout the state. On Friday, gyms, churches, hair and nail salons, and tattoo parlors were allowed to reopen, if the owners were willing. Yesterday, restaurants and movie theaters came back. The U-turn has left Georgians scrambling. Canavaggio has spent days crunching the numbers to figure out whether reopening his bar is worth the safety risk, or even feasible in the first place, given how persistent safety concerns could crater demand for a leisurely indoor happy hour. “We can’t figure out a way to make the numbers work to sustain business and pay rent and pay everybody to go back and risk their lives,” he told me. “If we tried to open on Monday, we’d be closed in two weeks, probably for good and with more debt on our hands.”

 

Public-health officials broadly agree that reopening businesses—especially those that require close physical contact—in places where the virus has already spread will kill people. Even so, many other states are quietly considering similar moves to Georgia’s.

 

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9 minutes ago, twa said:

The bar owner has the ability/permission to open now.

 

If he just ignores pesky details like

 

1) Customers who don't want to risk death

2)  Employees who don't want to risk death.  

3)  The fact that reopening increases the risk of death for people who aren't emloyees or customers.  

 

But he should ignore all that.  (After all, the GOP is.)

 

(Which is why you're attacking him.)  

 

14 minutes ago, twa said:

Did he expect someone to pay him to stay closed till this was over,,,,if it ever is?

 

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Look, there’s a zillion different ways to make your nut and find your niche as a restaurant owner.  If that niche is packed, casual happy hours 5 days a week...well, that’s a bummer for you.  COVID has 86’d happy hours.

 

Time to think outside the box, as they say.  If not for this project, then for the next...

 

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12 minutes ago, twa said:

Where is there a attack Larry?

 

You see that box labeled "quote"?  That's you, attacking him.  

 

32 minutes ago, twa said:

Did he expect someone to pay him to stay closed till this was over,,,,if it ever is?

 

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