Barry.Randolphe Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, FanboyOf91 said: I think "rich people will yell at me". That's exactly it - supposedly the CEOs are telling Trump they'll manufacture whatever he wants, just don't enact the DPA to force them. The people on the front lines have their lives at stake here and we're willing to accept the CEOs word? I think it comes down to him not wanting to be responsible for the logistics of getting the equipment to the hospitals that need it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Trump doesn't need to order companies to build, he just needs to announce an order of 5 million ventilators and however many masks and companies will get to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) Edited March 22, 2020 by visionary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergasun Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 What we need is a jobs act 2.0 for all the unemployed people in the next 2 months. Let the banks die, and maybe they will learn not to bet on bailouts. Its obvious that its the "second responders" (nurses and doctors) and "third responders" (food supply chains, truck drivers, stockers, etc) that are the indisposable people in the nation. These people are idiots trying to prop up dead corporations some more. Don't even have a clue.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FanboyOf91 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Look at this asshole wriggle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LadySkinsFan Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) From The Washington Post article on the failed vote. I think Democrats'concerns are spot on. The law should also outlaw stock buybacks. Once again, Republicans are screwing We the People. “The legislation had many, many problems," Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) said. “At the top of the list, it included a large corporate bailout provision with no protections for workers, and virtually no oversight.” A major sticking point is a $500 billion pool of money for loans and loan guarantees that Republicans want to create, which some Democrats are labeling a “slush fund” because the Treasury Department would have broad discretion over who receives the money. There is little precedent for a program with a similar size and scope. “They’re throwing caution to the wind for average workers and people on Main Street and going balls to the wall for people on Wall Street," Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) said of Republicans. Edited March 22, 2020 by LadySkinsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergasun Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 "Feds Kashkari" -- the guy in charge of the last bailout!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergasun Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 TARP was a $700B slush fund. Sure, it was originally supposed to go to the banks... doesn't matter. $500B is not enough in government loans.... Look, everyone.... shutting down our economy is going to hurt. It has been obvious for a week... we haven't talked about the stark choices this virus is forcing on us vs. risk/benefit... our economy can't handle no one working for more than a few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Fergasun said: Look, everyone.... shutting down our economy is going to hurt. It has been obvious for a week... we haven't talked about the stark choices this virus is forcing on us vs. risk/benefit... our economy can't handle no one working for more than a few weeks. actually, at least one person here talked about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Agree with drew there. Did McConnell really think he was in a position to put the squeeze on Democrats? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 yes, trump inc., minooch, the rest of his admin, and the gop congress are indeed happy to use this event to try to give themselves a half-trillion slush fund just as accused...and gopers will say it ain't so and the dems are "just" playing politics---which they are of course in some areas we can be sure, but not like this level of sick and corrupt 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=116&session=2&vote=00077 Mitch voted No (a procedural trick he's used before in failed votes) and Bernie didn't vote or wasn't there..... Edited March 23, 2020 by visionary 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 well rand is just one of many i've been suggesting need to be cudgeled into a position of zero influence for anyone who hasn't seen him as a self-absorbed showboat/con-man with a single-theme shtick his whole career, i have some magic beans you may be interested in 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TradeTheBeal! Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 I am very interested in some magic beans. Just how magic are they? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMP Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, FrFan said: It's going to take 6 more weeks to conduct more trials, how many people will die during this period ? Imagine this medicine will work for most of us but you did't want to release it because of the lack of trials, what will you say to the families who have lost a relative who couldn't be treated with it during this period ? How many more tests of this well known medicine do we need ? Professor Harrousseau former president of national health security said go for it, there is no risk under serious medical care ! I've got two friends both having phd in genetics, they told me today 1200 people are unofficially been treated with chloroquine ! I believe what this professor said today The next clinical trial would be even larger. And how many people die if you put this into widespread use, ignored other possible alternatives, and it isn't working and you've missed something that does because you've focused on this? The risk is that you're giving them something worthless and are missing something that would have worked. You have to do enough tests until there is clear evidence that it is working, and realistically, you'd like to have something that is working as well or better than the alternatives. If this is effective for 75% of the population, but one of the other things that are being looked at turns out would be effective for 90% of the population, then by rushing forward with this and ignoring the other, you're killing a lot of people. (And I'll point out, I didn't say more clinical trials. The Chinese researchers cited in the story you linked did.) Edited March 23, 2020 by PeterMP 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Reasonable chance several US Senators die in the next couple weeks thanks to Ron Paul’s dumbass son. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted March 23, 2020 Author Share Posted March 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, skinsfan_1215 said: Reasonable chance several US Senators die in the next couple weeks thanks to Ron Paul’s dumbass son. Too bad we can't pick which ones. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 14 minutes ago, TryTheBeal! said: I am very interested in some magic beans. Just how magic are they? According to the rhyme, they can turn a body part into a musical instrument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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