• Blog Entries

    • By Destino in ES Coverage
         1
      We’re still doing this?  Absolutely!  Despite all the compelling reasons to just let everyone go home and enjoy and extended offseason, this is not an option.  The games must be played, and therefore we the long-suffering fans will feel compelled to watch.  Even games no reasonable football fan would choose to watch like, for example, today’s Redskins Jets game.   

      Today’s convergence of sadness features the 30th ranked scoring offense (Jets 14.4 ppg) versus the 32nd (Redskins 12.0 ppg).  The first team to 15 wins!  With no playoff aspirations the compelling story lines for this game are largely limited to watching young players (hopefully) develop.  Dwayne Haskins gets his first home start and Derrius Guice is back from injury.   
       
      My, reasonable, goals for today’s game:  
      1- Score a touchdown 
      2- Score more than 17 points.   
      3- Haskins throws for 200 yards or more with no interceptions  
      4- Guice runs the ball at least 10 times and finishes at 3.5 yards per carry and healthy.  
       
      Hoping for a win at this point feels like setting myself up for disappointment, so I’m happy to settle for an entertaining loss.  
       
      Special thanks to @pez for some excellent Guinness beef stew.  If you absolutely have to stand in a frozen parking lot at 9am, the best place to do it is at the Extremeskins Tailgate with Pez and @Huly.  Great fans, great people. 
       
      The Redskins have declared for the following players as inactive: 
      Paul Richardson  
      Colt McCoy 
      Deshazor Everett 
      Chris Thompson  
      Ross Pierschbacher 
      Vernon Davis  
      Tim Settle  
       
      The Jets declared the following players as inactive  
      Nate Hairston  
      Darryl Roberts  
      Paul Worrilow 
      Matthias Farley  
      CJ Mosley  
      Jordan Willis  
      Leo Koloamatangi 
       
      1st Quarter - Redskins 0 - 6 Jets
      If you wanted to sit in the cold and watch a football game with some Jets fans at FedEx, but were worried that there were not enough seats available, I have good news.  There’s plenty of space available, so come on down and prove you’re a real fan by sitting though this in person.
       
      Jets dominated the 1st quarter even though they only scored 6 points.  The reason being that Washington managed only 13 yards of offense and a single first down.  
       
      Question: Is it still a check down pass if the QB never looks at anyone else?
       
      2nd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      The Jets have achieved an insurmountable 13 point lead early in the 2nd quarter.  All hope is lost.

      Is there a more perfect example of the Redskins offense than their first scoring drive in the 2nd quarter?  Interception gives the Redskins the ball on the Jets 16 yard line.  They proceed to march 10 yards backwards before kicking a field goal from the Jets 26.  It's perfect.  Two or three more field goals we can call it a day. 

      The Jets score again and if feels like they are are just piling on at this point.  Three touchdowns in the first half for them, just three points for the redskins.  Our streak of no touchdowns has now extended to 15 quarters. 
       
      3rd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      There is a spider slowly descending from the ceiling in the press box and it's the most interesting thing that's happened during the third quarter of this game. 
       
      I have decided to allow the spider to live, provided it does not touch me.  I'm off to get some more caffeine. 

      4th Quarter - Redskins 17 - 34 Jets
      The first wave of Redskins fans, the few that are here, started streaming towards the exits after that 4th Jets touchdown.  As if the Jets didn't have this game wrapped up in the 2nd quarter. 
       
      Jet have now more than doubled their average points per game and have matched their season high of 34 points (and they missed two field goals in this game). 
       
      TOUCHDOWN REDSKINS!  THE DROUGHT IT OVER!  Guice took a short pass from Haskins  all the way to the house.  2 point conversion is successful on a pass from Haskins to Quinn. 
       
      The Redskins score another touchdown!  This feels like an embarrassment of riches, even if we are still certain to lose this game. 
       
      End of Game.
       
      Let's review those reasonable goals I mentioned earlier:
       
      1- Success.
      2- Close enough, I'm counting it
      3- Haskins did throw for over 200, but unfortunately did have an interception. 
      4- Guice was not given the opportunity to run the ball ten times today.  He did however score on a 45 yard TD pass and finish the game healthy.  I'll take it.
       
      Even though the Redskins lost, it was good to see the offense show some faint signs of life and end the streak of games without a TD.  The team looked competitive for much of the second half, and perhaps they could have made this a fun game if they carried that same energy throughout.  It was good to see Guice and Mclaurin show out today.  I think both of them have a future with this team that I look forward to seeing. 

       
       

       
       
       
       
       
No Excuses

The Impeachment Thread

Impeachment  

172 members have voted

  1. 1. Should Donald Trump be impeached for obstruction of justice?



Recommended Posts

What do you guys think an impeachment will accomplish? It's not going to remove Trump becauae they don't have 67 Senators. Trump's going to keep acting like he's the victim.

Clinton's impeachment was over in 4 months.

Do you think the Democrats want this to be over in December 2019?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted (edited)

Only thing the Dems care about is the same as the Gop, getting or keeping power. The GOP is better at that goal than the Dems.

 

Look at the ages of whom is leadership among the Dems vs. The GOP. Except for cocaine Mitch,  most of the GOP is young. The Dems are mostly people in their 70's. 

 

Nancy only cares about keeping the house for 2020; so she's made the calculation impeachment will cost her the House. So, she won't allow their to be an actual impeachment. 

Edited by Rdskns2000

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, Fergasun said:

What do you guys think an impeachment will accomplish? It's not going to remove Trump becauae they don't have 67 Senators. Trump's going to keep acting like he's the victim.

Clinton's impeachment was over in 4 months.

Do you think the Democrats want this to be over in December 2019?

 

It will establish on public record that when one party and that party's president tried to stuff US democracy in the trash can, the other party stood up and said it was wrong and voted accordingly.  That's really too much to ask?

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted (edited)
14 minutes ago, Fergasun said:

What do you guys think an impeachment will accomplish? It's not going to remove Trump becauae they don't have 67 Senators. Trump's going to keep acting like he's the victim.

Clinton's impeachment was over in 4 months.

Do you think the Democrats want this to be over in December 2019?

 

They have a chance to sway public opinion even further against Trump by exposing his criminality over the period of several months in high profile impeachment hearings. Present the case to the American people. If it's over in 2019 oh well guess what, you may have changed a lot of minds and you have definitely fired up your base (especially following an acquittal from the GOP senate) heading into 2020 which will absolutely be needed for the election. You've basically given the Dem base a rallying cry to focus around the nominee shortly after the primary finishes.

 

We need people knocking on doors, registering new voters, driving people to polls etc. This is the way to do that. Plus, you can cripple Trump over the next few months that this takes place. 

 

 

Edited by Momma There Goes That Man
  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
22 minutes ago, bearrock said:

There are seminal moments in a country's history and this is one of them.  It's not important that Trump will never get convicted in the senate.  What's important is that principled politicians take a stand and say this is clearly high crimes and misdemeanor and anyone who committed these acts are unfit for the highest office in the land.  If

 

This is a great point.  At some point you have stand up and do what is right.  That's why as of today, no Dem will get my vote unless they have been making impeachement one of their top priorities.  And I say as of today because they know it's the right thing to do NOW.  If in two weeks, they try to do it, I'd assume it is just because of some updated polling.

 

I haven't had great faith in our system of government for a while now.  Pelosi put the final nail in the coffin yesterday.

 

Dems need to learn "You don't go into battle because you know you will win, you go because you know it's right."

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
15 minutes ago, Fergasun said:

What do you guys think an impeachment will accomplish?

 

Make every elected congress person go on the record, now and historically, on how they held this POS accountable. 

 

Sway public opinion against him.

 

Mire him in endless controversy.

 

Waste his political capital and put him on the defensive.

 

Shift the conversation to his corruption.

 

This is what impeachment will accomplish. But it requires pols putting in the time and effort, and it seems like House leadership is more interested in fake outrage and virtue signaling.

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
31 minutes ago, Fergasun said:

What do you guys think an impeachment will accomplish? It's not going to remove Trump becauae they don't have 67 Senators. Trump's going to keep acting like he's the victim.

Clinton's impeachment was over in 4 months.

Do you think the Democrats want this to be over in December 2019?

 

It is their duty to impeach Trump.  He absolutely committed impeachable offenses, he is utterly unfit for office, and his presidency is a daily threat to national security.  He invited foreign attack on our freaking presidential election and continuously attacks out core civic institutions.  He undermines Democracy itself.

 

Just because the unpatriotic Republican cowards in the Senate won't do their own duty to the country does not mean Democrats should shirk their duty as well.  That would make them complicit.

  • Like 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
30 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said:

 

 

Pelosi and Trump are of one accord on this, in that they're both hoping to run out the clock until they can say it's too late. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm of the opinion now almost that there is no real discernible difference between Democrats and Republicans. The Dems are just more spineless.

 

I almost don't even blame the Reps for their cult like worship of Trump. They're just doing what they gotta do to maintain power. They're sons of Bs but you almost have to respect them for it.

 

I said almost too much in this post.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 minutes ago, Warhead36 said:

I'm of the opinion now almost that there is no real discernible difference between Democrats and Republicans. The Dems are just more spineless.

 

I almost don't even blame the Reps for their cult like worship of Trump. They're just doing what they gotta do to maintain power. They're sons of Bs but you almost have to respect them for it.

 

I said almost too much in this post.

`

 

Too late. I've already notified the Minister of Citizen Reformatting. 

 

As more a stadium denizen, you could say the country is being managed about as well as the redskins and the real problem in both cases is "all of them" :taz:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

There are CONTINENTS of difference between them. Let's not let justifiable frustration at inaction on the impeachment issue cloud things in terms of, just off the top of my head, the judiciary, the environment, women's rights, care for the poor, respect for norms, etc., etc., etc.

 

Playing defense still matters. And though I'm as angry as NE and Buzz are about this Pelosi crap, and I've been on record about "do it for the history books" too, I'm voting Dem for the good of the country.

  • Like 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
13 minutes ago, JCB said:

There are CONTINENTS of difference between them. Let's not let justifiable frustration at inaction on the impeachment issue cloud things in terms of, just off the top of my head, the judiciary, the environment, women's rights, care for the poor, respect for norms, etc., etc., etc.

 

Playing defense still matters. And though I'm as angry as NE and Buzz are about this Pelosi crap, and I've been on record about "do it for the history books" too, I'm voting Dem for the good of the country.

 

i could go on and on, with genuine expertise even, about the "problems" with dems/libs (humans in general) but we're doing compare/contrast and specifying among subgroups here...in that light, for me, the dems overall are regularly occurring farts in the room that didn't come from you and linger like a couch-surfer and the gopers are like having a barrel of fresh baby diarrhea in the room on a daily basis 

 

this does not necessarily mean that humans are a "****" (rhymes with spit) species turning the globe into their toilet bowl. not necessarily.

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Impeachment is a bad idea:

 

1. Impeachment plays directly into Trump's hands. He's begging for it and it almost guarantees Trump 2020.

 

2. There's nothing to impeach him for that we didnt already know in 2016. The American people voted for him anyway. 

 

3. If you think Trump is implicated in anything from the Mueller report you're in fantasy-land. Trump is the biggest bull****ting shyster of all time. He's been through 170 federal lawsuits alone, thousands of others. You're dreaming if you think you're going to nail Trump on any type of conspiracy, shady deals, corruption. He's already been nailed thousands of times and gotten off thousands if times. No one cares. Mueller already nailed his campaign manager, his policy advisors and his Nat Sec advisor. No one cares.

  • Confused 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
8 minutes ago, Mooka said:

 

1. Impeachment plays directly into Trump's hands. He's begging for it and it almost guarantees Trump 2020.

explain this. What exactly do you mean?

 

9 minutes ago, Mooka said:

2. There's nothing to impeach him for that we didnt already know in 2016. The American people voted for him anyway. 

He obstructed justice while in the White House.

9 minutes ago, Mooka said:

3. If you think Trump is implicated in anything from the Mueller report you're in fantasy-land.

We don't think he will be because the Dems wont act.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, BenningRoadSkin said:

explain this. What exactly do you mean?

 

He obstructed justice while in the White House.

We don't think he will be because the Dems wont act.

 

Trump won't be impeached. That'll be a win for Trump. The average American doesn't understand or care about the impeachment process. Dems say impeach, Trump is not impeached = win for Trump.

 

He obstructed justice? He publicly berated Mueller and the investigation for 2 straight years. He's still doing it. Again, if he obstructed justice no one cares now anymore then they did yesterday or in 2016 when they voted for him.

 

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Not impeaching hurts the Dems chances in 2020 more than impeaching but not removing in the senate. By far.

 

dems seizes the house in a record setting election. People busted their asses, we had grassroots movements and tons of momentum. We did all this as a repudiation of Trump and we did it to put people in charge that will hold him accountable. 

 

It’s a slap in the face to anyone that voted Dem in 2018 to ignore that responsibility. It demotivates the base. Why the **** should they care if the actual dems they put in charge don’t? 

 

Its exactly how the Dems blow this by destroying the momentum and enthusiasm from 2018 by dragging their feet on the main thing they were elected to do 

  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The motions NOT being set forth by the Democratic Party to at least begin the call for impeachment will hurt their chances for any candidate to beat out 45 in 2020.  I don't think they realize how much this hurts. Unless they are just conceding victory to the GOP before the election even begins.  This is self-sabotage.  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

They’re not gonna impeach him and I’ll tell you why.  99% of the people screaming for impeachment now will still vote for any democrat candidate in 2020.  There, cats outta the bag. 

 

Could be a wrong move, could be right.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
51 minutes ago, Mooka said:

 

Trump won't be impeached. That'll be a win for Trump. The average American doesn't understand or care about the impeachment process. Dems say impeach, Trump is not impeached = win for Trump.

 

He obstructed justice? He publicly berated Mueller and the investigation for 2 straight years. He's still doing it. Again, if he obstructed justice no one cares now anymore then they did yesterday or in 2016 when they voted for him.

 

 

 

So let’s step back. Impeachment means the House votes. They determine he has committed a crime. The Senate has a trial where they determine if he should be removed. If Pelosi drummed up the votes, Trump would be impeached tomorrow.

 

what you are saying is he won’t be removed from office. Fair.

 

Then let Senate Republicans do that, after we have public hearings displaying all the evidence and a public trial where they determine guilt. Let’s do that. That way the American public can really understand what happens.

 

Impeachment of Nixon was not popular until they started having the hearings and people started to see what transpired. 

 

Right now you haven’t given us any evident that the public isn’t interested in hearing if Trump committed crimes.

  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
14 minutes ago, Springfield said:

They’re not gonna impeach him and I’ll tell you why.  99% of the people screaming for impeachment now will still vote for any democrat candidate in 2020.  There, cats outta the bag. 

 

Could be a wrong move, could be right.

 

Except it kills their base's energy and support for their leadership and will suppress turnout for them.  There is no strategy in this.

 

I honestly think the reason Democrats like Pelosi won't act is because they are scared of Republicans.  They are scared to do their duty because it means a fight and Nancy Pelosi is a very weak leader.

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

@BenningRoadSkin Oh, I think the public is VERY interested in impeachment proceedings....however, are the Dems?  That's what the problem is. 

 

Dems and Republicans are two of the same. 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I enjoyed this article about Pelosi's weakness and incompetence and the incompetence of Democratic leadership: https://newrepublic.com/article/154523/nancy-pelosi-impeach

 

It lays out my frustrations in a much smarter way than I could.

 

Long story short, Pelosi is wholly unworthy of this moment in history.  She is George McClellan and the party needs a US Grant.  She needs to either step down from her leadership position or be pulled down, I don't care which.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
33 minutes ago, BenningRoadSkin said:

That way the American public can really understand what happens.

 

Yea but that's not going to happen and you know it. The right has their own version of reality.

 

Sure as hell ain't happening in 1 year.

 

42 minutes ago, BenningRoadSkin said:

Right now you haven’t given us any evident that the public isn’t interested in hearing if Trump committed crimes.

 

I didnt say interested in hearing, i said they don't care.

 

What crime are we talking about? Specifically. What is he being impeached for that we didnt know in 2016? He's a liar? He's a racist? He's a sexual harasser? Rapist? He tried to fire someone? He lied to an investigator?  

 

I see nothing we didnt already know in  2016. 

 

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.