BenningRoadSkin

My G, he tries to use data to spread his worldview. That’s the issue. And he says insane stuff like this: Data guy! And then he continues to do the same thing he did before with Trump in the GOP primaries. And lol at reducing this to it being about ideology. Get over yourself lol. The point I am making is he, and others, use data to say stuff like “electability” instead of having a conversation on the actual issues at hand and how we solve them. None of these people actually have a clue about what people want or will support. 2008 was 11 years ago, and I feel a lot of people still want to believe in the nonsense we believed back then.

Breh what? He wrote an article saying he effed up on Trump? https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-i-acted-like-a-pundit-and-screwed-up-on-donald-trump/ his site also had it was 99% certain Clinton would beat Bernie in Michigan https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-the-stunning-bernie-sanders-win-in-michigan-means/ Yeah he is a data troll

Man told us for a year that Trump Had no chance. Then moved the sliders slightly right before Election Day and tried to do a victory lap by saying he was less wrong than most of media. It’s not about public sentiment. It’s not about anything at this point, and he editorializes way more than you think. And he isn’t interested in changing anything. Dude sees politics the same as he sees a poker table. No, he actually does have his head in the sand. That’s my complaint. You on the other hand seem to like dude because he runs numbers and it appeals to your need to feel more intelligent than the average bear. Unfortunately you are missing out that he is closer to a data troll than anything else at this point. what does this mean? Lol

Silver’s thing is to make a declarative statement using numbers and then change and make a new declarative statement using numbers, pretending that he didn’t say what he mentioned prior. The issue is we stop thinking about actual issues and only post about numbers. Look at the threadstarter in this thread, his only interest in politics seems to be the horse race. That’s how we have gotten to this point. I actually support Warren but Bernie is my second. I am a leftist and most of this board isn’t. I encourage you to listen to the podcast because while they are leftist, they talk about media coverage and how it impacts our politics. Hilarious

And that is the problem.

Because a) it isn’t saying anything b) it has influenced people to see politics as a game. And Nate’s takes, and others like him, are super flimsy and change with every poll. It doesn’t contribute much to our discourse and probably harms it. Look at commentary in politics now. Instead of asking for ideas and positively impacting things, we get people beholden to numbers that change every week.

Great takedown of Nate Silver and the horse race culture of media coverage of politics. I hope people in this thread listen to it, especially since many of us practice this same mentality.

Cowardly Democrats. Afraid to do anything to improve society, and those that support it.

Yeah, the problem is he did have this endless supply of unicorns and sunshines and candies. He just handed it to the banks and bad actors who created the problems and that lead to more problems. The other thing is Obama had control of the house and senate his first two years and didn't create teh programs that was needed. it affected black households more because black wealth was tied into homeownership more than any other group, and black people were playing catch up due to stuff like slavery, redlining, etc. The Dems didn't do anything to alleviate the matters.

See you’re not following things again. My post was critical of the Democratic Party since the end of the Civil Rights Movement. That includes Obama but isn’t solely him. Saying that, the massive loss of black wealth happened under his watch. Lastly, the Democrats have had no desire to pass New Deal level policies since Reagan. That includes Vice President Biden. FFS, Obama offered to gut Social Security to appease the GOP. Run-of-the mill Republicans have been able to pass policies that have eradicated the New Deal and Civil Rights Movement, with help of many Democrats. This is why we must vote with policy in mind even though #resist is convinced the world will be good once Trump is out. This is why a lot of progressives are excited over Sanders and Warren, and to an extent Yang. And why many don’t want a Biden nomination .

I didn’t call Obama that nor was suggesting he was. My post is solely about the Democratic party’s treatment of black issues. It’s been put on the back since the end of the Civil Right’s movement with Raygun. The party has asked black voters to vote against an increasingly racist party instead of doing anything tangible to uplift the black community. Obama’s presidency saw black wealth decline by nearly 2/3rds during his presidency. https://www.peoplespolicyproject.org/2017/12/07/destruction-of-black-wealth-during-the-obama-presidency/

And he told us he wasn’t a president for black People.

That’s been the point. You have an increasingly fascist party and a party that is moving right with the fascist party. It’s not had to be said explicitly, but the rebuttal has been, “at least the Dems aren’t fascist,” which is saying ‘shut up and vote for the Dems.’