volsmet Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 40 minutes ago, volsmet said: Murray in One more big 12 to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volsmet Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 16 hours ago, volsmet said: I think Wilson goes before Jones, I think he’s gone tonight. Wilson over Jones, incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volsmet Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 On 4/16/2020 at 7:17 AM, volsmet said: Where do you rank Gladney? He’s an intense dude, his rankings seem to range from cb3 to cb9, he & Igbinoghene appear to have the widest spectrum of evaluations. Igbinoghene sneaks into 1. Miami loading up on the perimeter defensively. Then Gladney follows. Nice get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volsmet Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 On 4/22/2020 at 7:42 PM, volsmet said: Critiques: Thomas will be gone by 14 Josh Jones won’t go in the top 20 Mims will go in 1 Reagor will go in 1 Diggs will go in 1 Terrell earlier Ruiz earlier Blacklock will go in 1 Jackson will go in 1 Move 5 into round 1, need to move 5 out: Ayiuk Matos Johnson Epenesa Mickiney Jones May slide to OT7. I would flip TE5 with TE7. * Sip, need to have the TE from east Portland state A&I tech, he’s going to get drafted. We were high on the Henny while he was being mocked in round 4. The ES needs to become a subscription site, we don’t need these GMs getting credit for our work. Critiques: Thomas will be gone by 14 ✅ Josh Jones won’t go in the top 20 ✅ Mims will go in 1 ❌ Reagor will go in 1 ✅ Diggs will go in 1 ❌ Terrell earlier ✅ Ruiz earlier ✅ Blacklock will go in 1 ❌ Jackson will go in 1 ✅ Move 5 into round 1, need to move 5 out: Ayiuk ❌ Matos ✅ Johnson ✅ Epenesa ✅ Mickiney ✅ Jones May slide to OT7. ✅ Diggs being passed for other corners was a surprise, no interior pass rushers after Kinlaw, and the Mims hype fell flat ... 3 misses, just means nfl teams made 3 mistakes, forgivable. Aiyuk in 1, I don’t have any opinion on him, I liked him live but respect the ES crew who seems low on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 CEH goes first among RBs, wow. One of my favs in this draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volsmet Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 On 4/20/2020 at 2:37 PM, volsmet said: Helaire love is no joke. Rb1, incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 CBs Trevon Diggs Jaylon Johnson Kristian Fulton Cameron Dantzler I've only studied two of the four, do any make it to the third? I am guessing no 1 minute ago, volsmet said: Rb1, incredible. He's the modern day RB. I like Eno Benjamin as the poor man's version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 I don't agree with PFF on all of those players but I do on some 2020 NFL Draft: Best remaining prospects available Print By Daniel Jeremiah NFL Media analyst Published: April 23, 2020 at 08:26 p.m. Updated: April 24, 2020 at 12:12 a.m. DJ's best available http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001110697/article/2020-nfl-draft-best-remaining-prospects-available BEST 2020 DRAFT PROSPECTS REMAINING ORIGINAL TOP 150 RANKING The Cincinnati Bengals kicked off Round 1 of the 2020 NFL Draft by picking LSU quarterback Joe Burrow at No. 1 overall. With the first round officially underway, here's a list of the best remaining prospects from NFL Network draft analyst Daniel Jeremiah's Top 150 prospect rankings. (Number by player's name indicates Jeremiah's original ranking.) 2020 NFL Draft tracker | Mock Draft Central RANK 16 D'Andre Swift, RB School: Georgia | Year: Junior Swift is a compact running back with excellent patience, vision and quickness. On inside runs, he lets things develop before exploding through the line of scrimmage. He has the vision to see and set up second- and third-level defenders. He has make-miss ability in tight quarters, but prefers to drop his shoulder and seek contact. He has enough speed to capture the corner on outside runs. He is a cradle catcher in the passing game, but it's effective. In pass protection, he likes to cut block and he's reliable. Overall, Swift has a similar skill set to Josh Jacobs, and I expect comparable results at the next level. RANK 19 Ross Blacklock, DT School: TCU | Year: Junior (RS) Blacklock is a dynamic interior defensive lineman. As a pass rusher, he launches out of his four-point stance and his bull rush is ferocious. He creates immediate knock-back. He is ultra-twitchy. He flashes a long-arm move where he can jolt, separate and finish. As a run defender, he successfully stacks and sheds single blocks, but he needs to improve his awareness and effectiveness versus double teams, where he gets washed down the line. He does have some durability concerns, but his skill set is special. Overall, Blacklock comes with some risk, but he's worth it. He has the potential to develop into a top-flight interior pass rusher. RANK 22 Xavier McKinney, S School: Alabama | Year: Junior McKinney was an instinctive safety for the Tide and he also spent some time playing nickel linebacker. When aligned deep, he is fluid in his movement and he's quick to key/read and drive on the football. His range is excellent. While he can effectively locate the ball, he will occasionally lose a 50/50 battle down the field. He is a dependable wrap/drag tackler. He has a very good feel as a blitzer, displaying timing and burst. Overall, McKinney is an intelligent, versatile defender and he should be very effective in multiple roles. RANK 26 A.J. Epenesa, Edge School: Iowa | Year: Junior Epenesa is a skilled pass rusher with outstanding size, strength and effort. He has average get-off quickness, but he boasts strong hands, can flip his hips and is a reliable finisher. He has a variety of hand techniques, including a violent club move, swipe move and a push/pull move. He also will flash a long-arm move with his inside arm. He has a great feel when an OT is leaning outside, which creates an opening for his up-and-under inside-counter move. Against the run, he can hold the point of attack easily. His effort on the back side is outstanding, but he lacks the burst to make a ton of plays from distance. Overall, Epenesa has a very high floor as a prospect. He should be a consistent 8-to-10-sack performer at the very least. RANK 27 Tee Higgins, WR School: Clemson | Year: Junior Higgins is a tall, long and rangy wideout with elite high-point skills. He uses a quick foot fire to defeat press coverage. He is a smooth, long-striding route runner. He is at his best when on the move: slants, posts and go routes. He lacks snap at the top of his route when working back downhill. He has incredible ball skills down the field. He can elevate and also adjust to the back-shoulder ball. After the catch, he is very smooth and slippery. Overall, Higgins isn't going to do a lot of the dirty work in the middle of the field, but he's very effective on the outside and provides big-play ability. RANK 29 Jaylon Johnson, CB School: Utah | Year: Junior Johnson offers an enticing size/speed combination for the position. He plays a lot of press-bail technique, but also flashes a firm two-hand jam. He is very fluid to open up and has plenty of long speed to carry vertical routes. He also excels when he slides inside to cover the slot. He was rarely challenged down the field in the games I studied. His ball production was outstanding in 2018 and opposing teams chose to avoid him last fall. He is very aggressive versus the run. He closes quickly before coming to balance and delivering firm tackles. Overall, Johnson is very talented and should be a Day 1 starter outside with the potential to cover in the slot as well. RANK 30 Yetur Gross-Matos, Edge School: Penn State | Year: Junior Gross-Matos was a tall, long edge rusher for the Nittany Lions. He will stand up on the edge or launch out of his four-point stance. He is a very productive pass rusher. He doesn't have an elite get-off, but he has very active hands and an array of moves. He has a quick swipe move, inside spin and he can also bend/wrap at the top of his rush. I'd like to see him develop more power, but he still has a lot to work with. He is very effective on loops and games. He does need to improve versus the run, as he sometimes plays too high and gets uprooted. Overall, Gross-Matos offers double-digit sack potential, but he does need to add strength at the next level. RANK 33 Marlon Davidson, Edge School: Auburn | Year: Senior Davidson has average height and a thick/square build. He typically lined up at defensive end for the Tigers, but also possesses the ability to slide inside. As a pass rusher, he is devastating when he has a runway. He generates a lot of power in his bull rush and has an array of hand moves he can incorporate on the move. He doesn't have an elite get-off, but he wins in the ways just mentioned. He destroys tight ends with his strength and power combination. Against the run, he uses his length to stack blocks, and his effort to pursue is outstanding. Overall, Davidson has some inside/outside flexibility and his production should carry over to the next level. RANK 34 Zack Baun, LB School: Wisconsin | Year: Senior (RS) Baun is a slightly undersized outside linebacker with excellent athleticism and versatility. He spends a lot of time playing over tight ends and gets the best of them in the run and pass games. As a rusher, he has a good initial burst and can really bend at the top of his rush. He has a nifty inside counter move and he can get skinny before closing on the quarterback. He mixes in a stutter/bull rush, but usually stalls out after generating some push. He is very athletic as a dropper in coverage. He is very good as a back-side run defender because of his burst and effort. Teams will differ on where to play him at the next level. He reminds me of former USC LB Uchenna Nwosu, someone whose versatility the Chargers have tapped into. I'd do the same with Baun. RANK 35 Jonathan Taylor, RB School: Wisconsin | Year: Junior Taylor is an ultra-productive running back with outstanding strength and speed. On inside runs, he's sudden, carries his pads low to the ground and shows the balance to bounce off tacklers while keeping his legs alive. He isn't overly shifty, but he avoids taking flush hits and he always falls forward for extra yardage. He has plenty of speed to capture the edge and once he gets in space, he can run away from the crowd. In the passing game, he is very effective on screens, where he can set up his blocks and collect big chunks of yardage. He trusts his hands and attacks the ball when he's out in the route. He didn't have a lot of reps in pass protection in the games I studied. Overall, Taylor is an explosive home run hitter with upside in the passing game. RANK 36 Laviska Shenault, WR School: Colorado | Year: Junior Shenault is arguably the best athlete in the entire draft class. He is tall with a thick, muscular build. He lined up everywhere in Colorado's offense -- out wide, in the slot, at running back and he even took snaps as a Wildcat quarterback. Shenault isn't a nuanced route runner, but he is a monster with the ball in his hands. He excels on quick hitters, fly sweeps and vertical routes. He has strong hands and his transition into a running back is immediate after the catch. He steps through tacklers and has a burst to finish. He is very competitive. Overall, Shenault comes with some durability concerns and will need time to develop into a fully polished wideout, but he can have an immediate impact for a creative offensive coordinator. He's too big, strong and fast to not contribute. His drafting team just has to figure it out. RANK 37 J.K. Dobbins, RB School: Ohio State | Year: Junior Dobbins is a compact running back with tremendous power, balance and instincts. He is at his best on inside runs. He doesn't hesitate, accelerating into contact and breaking a ton of tackles. He has a nifty inside spin move and can make second- and third-level defenders miss in space. He has enough speed to get to the perimeter, but he always looks to turn upfield as soon as possible. In the passing attack, he is effective in the screen game, but he has more work to do as a route runner. He had two tough drops vs. Clemson in the College Football Playoff, but he was reliable in every other game I studied. He is very aware in pass protection -- he can drop his weight and anchor linebackers. Overall, Dobbins' game should translate very well to the next level. He'll be a dependable starter immediately. RANK 39 Joshua Jones, OT School: Houston | Year: Senior (RS) Jones lined up at left tackle for the Cougars. He has the ideal frame and length for the position. In pass pro, he is very smooth and efficient in his set. He isn't overly explosive, but he has enough foot quicks to kick out and cover up speed rushes. He has a firm punch and he does a nice job replacing his hands when they get knocked down. He does play a little high and that impacts his ability to redirect versus up-and-under moves. In the run game, he can create movement on down blocks and is effective at the second level. He shows awareness against both run and pass. Overall, Jones has some games where he looks like a top-15 player (see: the Oklahoma tape), but he needs to play with better knee bend on a consistent basis. He should be a solid, dependable starter early in his career. RANK 40 Grant Delpit, S School: LSU | Year: Junior Delpit is a tall, fast free safety who also possesses the ability to play in the slot. From the deep middle, he trusts his eyes and explodes to the ball, whether run or pass. He has outstanding range and I trust his ball skills. His numbers dropped this past season, but that was the result of some nagging injuries. He is fluid and smooth when lined up in the slot. He is aggressive as a force defender, but he has too many fly-by missed tackles. Everyone at the school raves about his leadership and intangibles. Overall, Delpit needs to clean up some tackling issues, but he has Pro Bowl potential at free safety. RANK 41 Cole Kmet, TE School: Notre Dame | Year: Junior Kmet has an ideal frame for the TE position. He lined up inline and flexed out in Notre Dame's offense. In the passing game, he has good speed and does a lot of damage working in the seams. He uses his big frame to wall off defenders and pluck the ball in traffic (see: Georgia game). He isn't very polished or nuanced at the top of his route. He is at his best when he stays on the move instead of working back to the quarterback. He is physical after the catch, but he doesn't provide much wiggle or elusiveness. In the run game, he can effectively shield and wall off at the point of attack, and he takes good angles working up to the second level. Kmet was the closer on Notre Dame's baseball team and should make major strides now that he's solely focused on football. Overall, Kmet isn't a dynamic player, but he's going to get stronger. I see him as a reliable, long-term starter at the position. RANK 43 Kristian Fulton, CB School: LSU | Year: Senior Fulton has good size for the position and he's very fluid, smart and competitive. In press coverage, he switches up his technique. He's primarily patient, but he'll occasionally land a quick two-hand jam. He lacks elite top speed and he's had some issues timing his leap on jump balls down the field. From off coverage, he's very aware and shows some pop out of his plant/drive. He is very aggressive in run support. He fights through blocks and is very reliable in space. Overall, Fulton has some flaws, but I'll bet on his intangibles and toughness. RANK 44 Jeremy Chinn, LB School: Southern Illinois | Year: Senior Chinn is a fun player to study. He lined up all over the field in SIU's scheme. He has an outstanding blend of size, speed and instincts. He is at his best when he's in the box as a down safety/nickel linebacker. He has tremendous range to make plays sideline to sideline. He can locate and play the ball naturally (see: the high-point INT vs. UMass). He does have a little tightness when he's in space, but he recovers quickly. He is a very firm/reliable tackler. Overall, I believe Chinn is ideally suited to play WLB at the next level. He is exactly what teams are looking for in today's NFL. RANK 45 Justin Madubuike, DT School: Texas A&M | Year: Junior (RS) Madubuike is a strong, versatile defensive lineman. He aligns at every spot along the defensive front, but he's best suited as a 3-technique (on the edge of the guard). Against the pass, he is very quick to shoot his hands and generate knock-back. He has a quick club/rip move and is very adept at working through half the opponent instead of rushing down their numbers. His effort is outstanding. He is a dominant run defender. He excels at stacking blockers, separating and locating the football. Overall, Madubuike isn't an elite pass rusher, but he's impactful and can dominate on early downs. RANK 46 Denzel Mims, WR School: Baylor | Year: Senior Mims is a tall, rangy wideout with exceptional burst and body control. He uses his quickness and burst to escape press coverage, excelling on vertical routes down the field. He tracks the ball naturally and wins a bunch of 50/50 balls. He will need some time to develop as a complete route runner. He simply wasn't asked to run a large variety of routes in Baylor's offense. After the catch, he is slippery and elusive, but he isn't going to break many tackles. Overall, Mims is a big-play generator on the outside and has all of the tools to develop into a complete receiver. RANK 47 Antoine Winfield Jr., S School: Minnesota | Year: Sophomore (RS) Winfield is an undersized safety prospect with outstanding instincts and ball skills. His movement skills are very smooth and easy from the back end. He does a nice job playing over the top. He keeps everything in front of him, collecting a bunch of picks on tips and overthrows. He also spends a lot of time covering in the slot. He has enough speed to carry vertical routes down the field and he is also an excellent blitzer. As a tackler, he usually comes to balance, settles his feet and wraps up. Overall, there is some concern due to size and durability (missed time in 2017 and 2018 due to injury), but Winfield is a playmaker from the deep middle and his ability to match up in the slot is a bonus. RANK 48 Michael Pittman Jr., WR School: USC | Year: Senior Pittman is a tall, muscular wideout who had excellent production for the Trojans. He lines up out wide and he uses his upper-body strength to power through press coverage. He builds speed as he goes and he is a jump-ball specialist down the field. He high points the ball consistently and big brothers opposing cornerbacks routinely. He doesn't have elite speed, but he's very efficient getting in and out of breaks for such a big receiver. He is at his best after the catch, when his competitiveness and strength form a winning combination. He refuses to go down on first contact. Pittman has earned a reputation as one of the best special teams players in the country for his ability to cover and block punts. Overall, Pittman reminds me a lot of current Charger Mike Williams, and he can make an impact on all four downs because of his special teams value. RANK 49 Trevon Diggs, CB School: Alabama | Year: Senior Diggs has elite size, athleticism and ball skills. (He also played wide receiver and returned kicks during his career at Alabama.) He uses an effective one-hand jam in press before opening up and staying on the hip. He's fluid for such a big cornerback. It's important for him to stay in phase with the wideout because he lacks elite recovery speed. From off coverage, he reads through the wide receiver to the quarterback and has a good feel for jumping routes and making plays. His ball skills are outstanding -- as you'd expect, considering his brother is Stefon Diggs. He does need to improve as a tackler in space. Overall, Diggs has some room to develop, but he will excite teams looking for a big cornerback to match up with guys like Mike Evans and Courtland Sutton. RANK 50 Jalen Hurts, QB School: Oklahoma | Year: Senior Hurts is slightly undersized for the position, but his production, poise and playmaking ability are very impressive. He has crisp footwork in his drop and he throws from a very firm platform. He has a quick release and generates excellent velocity on drive throws. Hurts flashed the ability to touch the ball up, but his ball placement still needs to improve. His vision and anticipation are other areas that need work. He's an outstanding runner, both on designed runs and when pressured. He gains ground quickly and runs through contact consistently. I love his competitiveness and toughness. Overall, Hurts must continue to improve in the passing game, but I'm going to bet on his eventual success due to his playmaking skills and overall competitiveness. RANK 52 Lloyd Cushenberry, C School: LSU | Year: Junior (RS) RANK 53 Ezra Cleveland, OT School: Boise State | Year: Junior (RS) RANK 54 Logan Wilson, LB School: Wyoming | Year: Senior RANK 55 Cam Akers, RB School: Florida State | Year: Junior RANK 57 KJ Hamler, WR School: Penn State | Year: Sophomore (RS) RANK 58 Josh Uche, LB School: Michigan | Year: Junior (RS) RANK 60 Robert Hunt, OT School: Louisiana-Lafayette | Year: Senior (RS) RANK 61 Matt Hennessy, C School: Temple | Year: Junior (RS) RANK 62 Willie Gay Jr., LB School: Mississippi State | Year: Junior RANK 63 Saahdiq Charles, OT School: LSU | Year: Junior RANK 64 Jacob Eason, QB School: Washington | Year: Junior (RS) RANK 65 Neville Gallimore, DT School: Oklahoma | Year: Senior (RS) RANK 67 Jordan Elliott, DT School: Missouri | Year: Junior (RS) RANK 68 Adam Trautman, TE School: Dayton | Year: Senior (RS) RANK 69 Van Jefferson, WR School: Florida | Year: Senior (RS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin'emAlive Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Not a chance would I trade back into the 2nd, unless it’s via Trent Williams. Just sit and hope Chinn, Dugger, or Pittman fall. Corners were hit hard, but edge rushers, safeties, and rbs were largely untouched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskinsrmylyfe Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 I would consider it for Ezra Cleveland ,Delpit or McKinney Bargain Ben Bruce is gone and I believe that there's a handful of impact players left that are worth trading up for because once they're gone it's a crapshoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 A lot of really appealing prospects still on the board. Praying one makes it to 66. I think Josh Jones is the guy I want to fall to 66 the most. But Kristian Fulton would be a god send too. Tee Higgins or Jonathan taylor would be great too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins2victory Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 My favorites left... Antoine Winfield Jr., S (Should be long gone by 66) Ezra Cleveland, OT (Almost no way he makes it to 66 either) Cole Kmet, TE Joshua Jones, OT Adam Trautman, TE Michael Pittman Jr., WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Kind of regret the Montez trade, not going to lie. We would be guaranteed one of Diggs or Fulton if we had it. Having DK Metcalf and one of those guys trumps having Montez, but hindsight is 20-20. We can still make out well because we got McLaurin and have a good chance to get another third round gem. And we now have, without a doubt, the most athletic edge tandem in the NFL to pair with three dominant interior linemen. It's a badass unit that could be the kind of legendary group that gets a cool nickname and sets the standard for the franchise like the Hogs did for the OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volsmet Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 9 minutes ago, stevemcqueen1 said: the kind of legendary group that gets a cool nickname and sets the standard for the franchise like the Hogs did for the OL. Burgundy body snatchers 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins2victory Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 They could be the "Symphony of Destruction"! Every time one of them gets a sack at home, Q the song! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Edwards-Helaire is gonna be trouble in that KC offense. Jesus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 I wonder how deep we get into the 2nd round before a name starts falling that has us here actually wanting to move up from 66 even though we know we maybe shouldn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anselmheifer Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 29 minutes ago, stevemcqueen1 said: Kind of regret the Montez trade, not going to lie. We would be guaranteed one of Diggs or Fulton if we had it. Having DK Metcalf and one of those guys trumps having Montez, but hindsight is 20-20. We can still make out well because we got McLaurin and have a good chance to get another third round gem. And we now have, without a doubt, the most athletic edge tandem in the NFL to pair with three dominant interior linemen. It's a badass unit that could be the kind of legendary group that gets a cool nickname and sets the standard for the franchise like the Hogs did for the OL. Picturing DK Metcalf plus a 2nd this year over Sweat probably isn't fair. There is no reason to think we would have drafted Metcalf. I don't know if I trust Sweat to develop. He had 7 sacks, and that's not awful, but he wasn't regularly winning/applying pressure. He's stiff and doesn't have a lot of pass rush moves. A lot of us I think saw Danielle Hunter as a comp for Sweat. I think that actually, Jadaveon Clowney may be a better comp. Super explosive in line athlete. Stiff. Not a million pass rush moves. Very long. Should be good against the run. Will make some impact against the pass, but won't be super productive in terms of sacks. Their combine measurements are remarkably comparable. Jadaveon Clowney, without the injury history, would be a great thing to have across from Chase Young. https://www.nfl.com/prospects/montez-sweat?id=32195357-4503-4375-fdbc-389a73a5ddc5 http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/jadeveon-clowney?id=2543456 If you think about the contract Clowney commands these days, and his impact, two 2nds is a pittance to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsFanInSanAntonio Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Still don’t regret trading up for Montez last year. Think he is going to be a stud now with CY on the other end. I think it’s going to take another year for him to really get going especially with no offseason programs and possibly a short training camp. I see multiple 10+ sack seasons and a few pro bowl seasons when it’s all said and done imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Brooks in the first. Some rise that. WR or DB next then? So Shenault could well be available. I like Darnay Holmes. Also wonder If we will trade back from #66 if we don’t close out the Trent deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panninho Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 54 minutes ago, Mr. Sinister said: Edwards-Helaire is gonna be trouble in that KC offense. Jesus Absolutely love that pick for them. Just glad they are not in our conference. That offense ist unstoppable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy Yoda Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 1 hour ago, stevemcqueen1 said: Kind of regret the Montez trade, not going to lie. We would be guaranteed one of Diggs or Fulton if we had it. Having DK Metcalf and one of those guys trumps having Montez, but hindsight is 20-20. We can still make out well because we got McLaurin and have a good chance to get another third round gem. And we now have, without a doubt, the most athletic edge tandem in the NFL to pair with three dominant interior linemen. It's a badass unit that could be the kind of legendary group that gets a cool nickname and sets the standard for the franchise like the Hogs did for the OL. Meh, we got Montez Sweat way after he was supposed to go in the draft. This guy was supposed to go top 10 at least (there were murmurs of him going in the top 5) after the combine. That bogus heart condition that some incompetent medical team found on him caused him to drop massively. We need a CB badly to counter Dallas, but nobody available holds a candle to Ceedee Lamb, thus our pass rush is the best counter we have to their WRs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volsmet Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 We now have the 2nd best defensive player in the nfl. Phanks, Jay. 2 minutes ago, Burgundy Yoda said: Meh, we got Montez Sweat way after he was supposed to go in the draft. This guy was supposed to go top 10 at least (there were murmurs of him going in the top 5) after the combine. That bogus heart condition that some incompetent medical team found on him caused him to drop massively. We need a CB badly to counter Dallas, but nobody available holds a candle to Ceedee Lamb, thus our pass rush is the best counter we have to their WRs. If you trust our GM & scouts, they had him top 8, we should be set. I wouldn’t trade Sweat for a corner I loved, like Diggs, because I think he was playing with too much weight and lost a lot of burst making that transition. I trust Chuck Smith & others, who have worked with him, who think he’ll lead the league in sacks a time or 5. They see it in him, I’ve seen it when he made easy work of several nfl tackles at the Sr bowl, we just needed a nice culture cleansing. 28 minutes ago, UK SKINS FAN 74 said: Brooks in the first. Some rise that. WR or DB next then? So Shenault could well be available. I like Darnay Holmes. Also wonder If we will trade back from #66 if we don’t close out the Trent deal. Your boy won a wager for me. 1 hour ago, Anselmheifer said: Picturing DK Metcalf plus a 2nd this year over Sweat probably isn't fair. There is no reason to think we would have drafted Metcalf. https://www.nfl.com/prospects/montez-sweat?id=32195357-4503-4375-fdbc-389a73a5ddc5 http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/jadeveon-clowney?id=2543456 If you think about the contract Clowney commands these days, and his impact, two 2nds is a pittance to pay. If we had taken DK, we wouldn’t have taken Terry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panninho Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 1 hour ago, skins2victory said: My favorites left... Antoine Winfield Jr., S (Should be long gone by 66) Ezra Cleveland, OT (Almost no way he makes it to 66 either) Cole Kmet, TE Joshua Jones, OT Adam Trautman, TE Michael Pittman Jr., WR I would add as players i'd really like at 66: Tee Higgins KJ Hamler Xavier McKinney Kristian Fulton Denzel Mims Trevon Diggs Lloyd Cushenberry And then there are more available like Ashtyn Davis, Jeremy Chinn, Grant Delpit and a couple of great RBs that I'd be more than happy with to take at #66. Also I'd love to add Jaylon Johnson but there are those worries about his health that @stevemcqueen1 talked about. Anyways, that list includes 16 players without the RBs. It's really not unlikely one of them is there at #66 - even though most of them will probably be going early round 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgundy Yoda Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 2 10 minutes ago, volsmet said: If you trust our GM & scouts, they had him top 8, we should be set. I wouldn’t trade Sweat for a corner I loved, like Diggs, because I think he was playing with too much weight and lost a lot of burst making that transition. I trust Chuck Smith & others, who have worked with him, who think he’ll lead the league in sacks a time or 5. They see it in him, I’ve seen it when he made easy work of several nfl tackles at the Sr bowl, we just needed a nice culture cleansing. I think our current scouting department is pretty good. I trust them as a group a hell of a lot more than whoever we had 10+ years ago. I definitely noticed over the year Sweat started to slim down, and funny enough that's when he did start playing better. My main issue with Sweat has always been initial burst off the line. Kerrigan still smokes him off the line and that shouldn't be happening. The good thing is, Sweat is insanely fast so his slower get-off on the line can kind of be made up. If he got his timing down and somehow had more burst off the line he'd be a sack leader, I'm sure of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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