justice98 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, Spaceman Spiff said: I think pretty much everyone knew how far R. Kelly had gone. What's this docuseries bringing up that is new? I think it's more making the story known to the uninitiated and easy to follow. Getting all the details and players telling the story in one place. Rather than having to read this magazine article from 15 years ago or that newspaper story from 5 years ago, etc. I dont think everybody knows who Aaliyah was or only know R. Kelly from "I Believe I Can Fly" and Celine Dion and Lady Gaga records. They certainly never heard of Sparkle or a pee tape. There's an entire demo that knows none of that really, and certainly not in depth. 12 hours ago, BenningRoadSkin said: Convenient for him to say that. He was dating Aaliyah yet was in the "Fiesta" video in 2001. I'm down for getting on Jay, I brought it up and his rebrand is bothering me, but Dame can't say much imo. Agreed, Dame is full of crap. He was also in a Twista video with R. Kelly too after Aaliyah died. Edited January 7, 2019 by justice98 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chew Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Watching more Surviving R.Kelly... Jerhonda Pace was 14 when she first met Robert. She was 16 when he had her strip naked and fondled her and made her perform oral sex. She told him she was a virgin, and kelly said "good, I can train you." I try so hard not to judge people and look at things objectively. I feel like people who are attracted to underaged kids are sick, something in their brain is misfiring. They're not normal. But Kelly was so calculated and predatory with it. He preyed on girls with low self-esteem and sought out kids whose parents were absent and would easily buy his lies about working with their daughters in the studio. I kinda want to stomp him into a coma. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Maybe this is my manic talking, but im open to death penalty here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 10 hours ago, Chew said: Watching more Surviving R.Kelly... Jerhonda Pace was 14 when she first met Robert. She was 16 when he had her strip naked and fondled her and made her perform oral sex. She told him she was a virgin, and kelly said "good, I can train you." I try so hard not to judge people and look at things objectively. I feel like people who are attracted to underaged kids are sick, something in their brain is misfiring. They're not normal. But Kelly was so calculated and predatory with it. He preyed on girls with low self-esteem and sought out kids whose parents were absent and would easily buy his lies about working with their daughters in the studio. I kinda want to stomp him into a coma. And he had so many enablers and accomplices that actively helped him procure young girls and get away with all this. That's almost the part I cant wrap my brain around. None of these other people cared about anything but servicing R. Kelly's agenda. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chew Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 hour ago, justice98 said: And he had so many enablers and accomplices that actively helped him procure young girls and get away with all this. That's almost the part I cant wrap my brain around. None of these other people cared about anything but servicing R. Kelly's agenda. Yep, I had a hard time with that as well. I guess money makes otherwise good people do bad things. One of his top goons said that R.Kelly had several Chicago area police on his payroll, and would get tipped off, sometimes days in advance, when the parents of these girls would call in "wellness checks" so he could be prepared. Since they were over 18, there wasn't much else the parents could do. So many of the girl's stories sound the same. They had to ask permission to eat, use the bathroom, and shower. When other men came around, they either had to look at the floor, or go stand in the corner and face the wall. And a few of the girls talked about the "black room" in R.Kelly's Georgia mansion. it was a big loft type of room, but they said it was blacked out. Black curtains, black rugs, black furniture, and a black bed right in the middle. He would sometimes have two or three girls come in there at a time and do all kinds of degrading sexual stuff to them. And I wondered why none of these girls simply ran out the door and screamed for help...but one of the victims, Dominique Gardner, said Kelly's head security guard told her if she ever told her sister or her parents about what is happening, they would all be killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 3 hours ago, justice98 said: And he had so many enablers and accomplices that actively helped him procure young girls and get away with all this. That's almost the part I cant wrap my brain around. None of these other people cared about anything but servicing R. Kelly's agenda. I watched episodes 1 and 3 (ep 2 was mistakenly a dupe of ep 1 in my "On Demand" so I haven't seen that one) and it seemed to me that a couple of those people giving testimonials should be in prison right now. Mainly his old manager. That dude had to stop talking a few times because he was about to incriminate himself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 On 1/6/2019 at 11:37 AM, Jumbo said: I blame the "music." You never see this kind of thing with Roy Clark or Buck Owens. Buck Owens was a sociopath. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 On 1/6/2019 at 5:30 PM, Mr. Sinister said: Yeah, no one should be pulling that card, certainly not in our current climate. It's real easy to see it as a human flaw (the enablers, btw, not people like Kelly), not really anything to do with race So no one watched The Boondocks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Lombardi's_kid_brother said: So no one watched The Boondocks? How is what it shown on the Boondocks supposed to only be symptomatic in the black community (if that is what you are suggesting)? People have a hard time letting go of things/people they closely associate with pivotal moments of their lives, especially when they perceive those things to be under attack. Where exactly does race come into the equation? What makes this a black people only problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 On 1/8/2019 at 2:32 PM, Lombardi's_kid_brother said: Buck Owens was a sociopath. Unpossible. He's a devout christian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 ****in R. Kelly came up on my Apple Music suggestion list a couple days ago. I don't even like R&B. I'm not sure how that happened but I was like WTF. No, I don't want to listen to 12 Play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 On 1/8/2019 at 10:29 AM, Chachie said: I watched episodes 1 and 3 (ep 2 was mistakenly a dupe of ep 1 in my "On Demand" so I haven't seen that one) and it seemed to me that a couple of those people giving testimonials should be in prison right now. Mainly his old manager. That dude had to stop talking a few times because he was about to incriminate himself. Aaaaand just like that..... https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/former-r-kelly-manager-arrested-georgia-allegedly-making-terroristic-threats-n960201 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 i thought Erykah Badu was "woke" https://thegrapevine.theroot.com/black-twitter-tells-erykah-badu-to-have-a-window-seat-a-1831910494 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chew Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 29 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said: i thought Erykah Badu was "woke" https://thegrapevine.theroot.com/black-twitter-tells-erykah-badu-to-have-a-window-seat-a-1831910494 Wow, that's unfortunate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 So when are we going to make offering victims and their families money in exchange for silence a serious crime? People enjoy conversations about what all this means about society and whatever, but I’m seeing rich guys writing checks in exchange for silence every time one of these powerful people get away with it. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Not thread worthy, but... https://www.rollingstone.com/movies/movie-features/leaving-neverland-michael-jackson-doc-sundance-784801/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 R. Kelly accused of threatening one of his alleged victims NEW YORK CITY, New York – One of R. Kelly’s alleged victims says he is trying to retaliate against her for speaking out in the Lifetime docuseries “Surviving R. Kelly.” Faith Rodgers, 21, appeared in the series. Her attorney, Gloria Allred, said at a press conference Monday that Kelly posted private photos of Rodgers online and threatened in a letter to smear her reputation. Rodgers filed a civil suit against Kelly last year, claiming he unlawfully gave her alcohol, assaulted her and gave her a sexually transmitted disease. “If she persists in court action she will be subjected to public opinion during the discovery process,” Kelly purportedly wrote in response to the allegations, according to a letter shared by Allred. “For example, my law team is prepared to request the production of the medical test results proving the origin of her STD claim.” The letter continues, “If Ms. Rodgers really cares about her own reputation she should cease her participation and association with the organizers of this negative campaign.” In an email to CNN, Kelly’s attorney, Steve Greenberg, denied the letter was Kelly’s. “It obviously was not authored or signed by Mr. Kelly, nor sent on his behalf. He doesn’t write letters,” Greenberg said. Click on the link for the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Stay strong, Ms. Rodgers. I'm sending you some good juju. 👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamebreaker Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 "He doesn't write letters..." Yeah, we now know why, he's never been able to read and write. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) Good news. Still can't believe it took this long, though Edited February 14, 2019 by Mr. Sinister 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chew Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Hell yeah, lock his sick ass up. Dude is a ****ing monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 5 hours ago, Mr. Sinister said: Good news. Still can't believe it took this long, though Seriously. I don't understand how nothing came of it forever ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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