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thebluefood

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11 hours ago, kleese said:

 

We’ve gone over this a lot, but the percentage of revenue the gameday generates for the team is SO much smaller than people think. The NFL is run on socialist principles. Every time someone buys and Aaron Rodgers jersey or a Dallas Cowboys hat it lines SNYDER’S pockets as well. Revenue sharing and the massive TV contracts are the revenue drivers for the league as a whole. 

 

Snyder wasn’t happy today. We’ve heard from all sorts of sources that he is embarrassed when the stadium is empty and fans get angry. I don’t think he’s smiling tonight because the few in attendance bought hot dogs. It’s such a ridiculously small percentage anyway that it doesn’t really matter. 

 

The “enabling” stuff is just silly. I don’t think Snyder sat there today and said “Ah, ha, we still had 50,000 show up so that means they approve of what we are doing.” I think he knows it’s messed up and has been before. He just doesn’t know how to fix it. 

Fair points. Actually reminds me of a quote from Dr. King

 

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“We all too often have socialism for the rich and rugged free market capitalism for the poor.” 

But I won't go too far into that right now since this the Stadium.

 

I guess what I'm trying to get across is that Snyder and Co. will be fine at the end of it all. If he's embarrassed and unhappy, he's in plenty of company but the stakes for him fielding a bad product year after year are pretty damn low compared to his workers and there's virtually nothing to keep him accountable apart from the owner's "Nuclear Option" and if memory serves, that's never actually been implemented and I doubt it ever will be. So where does that leave us - fans, players, coaches, cheerleaders, ticket booth operators, the folks in the concession stands, etc.? Outside of a few large and unlikely options, it doesn't leave us with much.

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hail2skins

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6 minutes ago, Blanka said:

 

Pretty sure that's the chargers. 

 

 

Rams #22 at 94%

No, the Rams are the ones second-to-last. The Chargers play in a 30K seat soccer stadium.

 

But the Rams current attendance is in line with what the new stadium opening in 2020 is going to seat. The Coliseum still holds close to 90K people I think. 

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4 minutes ago, RichmondRedskin88 said:

No Chargers are the 25k because they play in soccer stadium

 

3 minutes ago, hail2skins said:

No, the Rams are the ones second-to-last. The Chargers play in a 30K seat soccer stadium

 

 

I stand corrected. 

 

Seemed like every time I watched the Rams, the stadium looked close to capacity 

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Why am I Mr. Pink?

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Im not sure percent of capacity is the most enlightening metric.

 

Id use avg per home game.

 

27th = redskins at 60k

10th = rams at 72k

1st = Dallas at 91k

 

There are a good bit of teams with over 100% capacity - new orleans, pats, seattle, eagles, denver .... idk.

 

What I do know is we suck and the fan base for the most part is numb and indifferent at this point.

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Look at the crowd in this link. Sorry about Gmen in the picture.

 

This was a team at 6-6, playing a division rival. You'd think it was pouring rain and we were winless.

 

Wow it's gotten worse faster than even the biggest naysayers would have predicted. I mean we have seen the kingdom slowly crumbling for years / decades... but we were just 6-3! 

 

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hail2skins

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4 minutes ago, RandyHolt said:

Look at the crowd in this link. Sorry about Gmen in the picture. 

 

This was a team at 6-6, playing a division rival.

 

Wow it's gotten worse faster than even the biggest naysayers would have predicted. I mean we have seen the kingdom slowly crumbling for years / decades....

 

People will counter "Well, that was taken relatively late in a blowout game.........."

 

And I will counter that the amount of people you see in the club and upper end zone sections visible in the photo is not dissimilar to what you've seen for any other game at FedEx this season besides Dallas.

 

Ashburn (Landover?), we have a problem.

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1 hour ago, Warhead36 said:

The Washington Redskins are a dead brand. The key demographics that spend money don't care at all about this team. All the passion comes from the geriatrics who are slowly dying off.

 

This. 

 

The Redskins aren’t dying. They are dead. As many others have said, it’s been a slow process and this year is probably the year that everyone REALLY noticed it. I’d say the end of the RG3 “era” was the last straw for a lot of fans. I don’t think Jay ever really had a chance with the fan base— there has really been no excitement or “juice” during his time here despite the fact he’s actually produced better results than basically any coach we’ve had since Gibbs I. 

 

This is why they should NOT be in a hurry to find some sort of quick fix or kickstart for the fans. Again, they are dead. It’s over. The generation they missed is missed. The fans they’ve lost are lost. The only way to “fix” it is to build back about as slowly as it was torn down. If they can get someone in place that starts making incremental good decisions then the fans will take notice of that...but it will take time. People aren’t gonna show up next year, period. I don’t think there is anything they can do to get the fans excited for 2019. Even if they draft a QB, fire Allen and Jay and hire a coach people generally like. I think there would still be a “let’s see how they mess THIS up” mentality. This is something they will need to prove over a series of years. I kind of get the impression that Lafemina gets that. I hope he sticks around. 

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hail2skins

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12 minutes ago, kleese said:

This is why they should NOT be in a hurry to find some sort of quick fix or kickstart for the fans. Again, they are dead. It’s over. The generation they missed is missed. The fans they’ve lost are lost. The only way to “fix” it is to build back about as slowly as it was torn down. If they can get someone in place that starts making incremental good decisions then the fans will take notice of that...but it will take time. People aren’t gonna show up next year, period. I don’t think there is anything they can do to get the fans excited for 2019. Even if they draft a QB, fire Allen and Jay and hire a coach people generally like. I think there would still be a “let’s see how they mess THIS up” mentality. This is something they will need to prove over a series of years. I kind of get the impression that Lafemina gets that. I hope he sticks around. 

Ed, where I have to disagree is that, for his part, Lafemina can't just do the status quo here. He has to look at the attendance and figure that this strategy of protecting STH value led to a very bad optic this season at FedEx.  I really don't see why slashing ticket prices and/or removing more seats from the place is not something that has to be considered. Snyder has to know this as well.

 

I also think losing Kirk had more of a last straw impact than the failed RG3 experiment did.

 

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55 minutes ago, hail2skins said:

Ed, where I have to disagree is that, for his part, Lafemina can't just do the status quo here. He has to look at the attendance and figure that this strategy of protecting STH value led to a very bad optic this season at FedEx.  I really don't see why slashing ticket prices and/or removing more seats from the place is not something that has to be considered. Snyder has to know this as well.

 

I also think losing Kirk had more of a last straw impact than the failed RG3 experiment did.

 

 

You are probably right about Kirk... I am fine with them slashing prices or removing seats to add a little more value to the experience, especially for STH. But I really think it goes well beyond price. Let's just say they fire Allen/Gruden and put a FO structure in place that fans (at least on paper) are OK with. We will then say they have a "normal" off-season where they don't do anything amazing, but don't do anything the fans hate either. I STILL think they'd have trouble getting butts in the seats for the games early in the season even if they cut prices by 50%. The problem is people don't CARE about the Redskins anymore. It isn't just anger at this point. There are no marches in the street or revolts. The Redskins just aren't a "thing" anymore. Those of us who have held on for dear life are probably here for good, but there aren't that many of us. It's really hard to sell something when no one is interested in your product. I don't think it's just that the product is bad... I don't think people desire the product even if it was good-- that's the issue in my eyes. The train has left the station. I think this is a years and years type of a fix. The one thing that COULD speed up the process is if they somehow landed a Mahomes-esque QB. A young guy that was both great and exciting. 

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SkinsFTW

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11 hours ago, hail2skins said:

As I've said before, that 74 pct figure assumes a 82,000 capacity for FedEx, and there's no way in hell capacity is 82K in Landover anymore.

 

Which was once over 90K with 100s of thousands on waiting lists. Highest ticket prices in the league too.

 

I think I even remember "where are you on the waiting list" threads back during Gibbs years. People couldn't get good seats back then. Now you can get seats anywhere.

 

Removing 1000s of seats and now 10s of 1000s of seats, soon it might look like a high school football game.

 

Now you're probably seeing 25k Redskins fans at the games.  Can't blame Bruce or Gruden for this because it's all Dan Snyder.

 

 

 

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