DWinzit Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Wyndorf25 said: Me too. I have to give credit where credit is due...The Redskins showed discipline and stayed at 15, allowing the board to come to them and got a QB that some consider the best in this class. Then, they pounce on Sweat who most considered a top 10 talent at pick 26. It's a good morning. I say stand pat with the two 3Rd round picks, target a WR (Andy Isabella would be my hope) and a potential starting caliber OG and this draft would already be considered a success IMO. I was so happy when Sweat rolled out of their mouth Isabella is on of a number of 3rd round WR talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, mhd24 said: 3) Deebo (only WR worth trading up for) I agree. I don't watch much College football until later in the season. Samuel torched Clemson and was one of the best players on the field. He's a little short--but Anthony Mix was tall and he sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Free safety, guard, back up (and really any backup o-line man) and receiver are the biggest holes. Free safety might be okay if Montae Nicholson can get his head right and recover from his sophomore slump or Apke makes a huge jump after being coached up. Receiver is only good if some of the undrafteds who looked great in the preseason turn out to be the real thing (not likely) I'd say the team needs two to three o-linemen who can emerge as primary backups. It'd be great if one of our 3rd rounder could be an immediate starter at guard. It's really unlikely to nab a day one starter at wide receiver in the third round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhd24 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 I'm thinking Deonte Thompson might be a target if he lasts. He didn't test at all due to injury, but he's a bama guy. Taylor Rapp might slip to round 3 due to his horrid 40 time. Still, interior o-line is a huge need. I just don't see the top o-line guys slipping. Taylor, Ford, Risner, Jenkins, McCoy will all go round 2. Nate Davis (since we brought him in) might be the pick if he's there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Ryan Bates and Michael Deiter are two Tackles who could/should move to OG that are likely to be around in the R5 area and could compete to start with flowers and be long term answers at LG. Also look out for Ross Pierschbacher in Round 5 as a Center/Guard and he’s from Bama I say that mainly to assuage fears should the Skins go WR+TE or WR + DB in Round 3 Dieonta Thompson would be a sneaky pick for us in R3 and I wouldn’t hate it. As long as we go back to offense and take some upside fliers with our remaining 5 picks. Preston Williams is someone to watch if he falls. Off field isssues but arguably a 1st round talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeJacobyHOForRIOT Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 What round is JJ Arcega Whiteside projected ? I'm not a expert on college football but behind Marquise Brown i thought he was the best WR last season. I would love to see this guy play for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hangman- C_Hanburger Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 7 hours ago, COWBOY-KILLA- said: The prognostications are over, whether this guy or that guy thinks he's gonna bust is irrelevant. Also who made the pick inside our building, who's guy is who's guy: Dan, Bruce and Doug vs. Jay, Scouts, and Smith is also irrelevant at this point. Dwayne Haskins is our QB. If you think he sucks then great, that's also irrelevant. Let's support this guy 100%. He's young, big, smart, and accurate. HTTR!! Exactly as *I* had hoped. #1 we got a edge rusher that is going to make the D scary. Get turn overs. Play field position, pressure BIG TIME #2 IF he even starts, we have a QB who is accurate and won't turn the ball over- Short quick routes and a running game to complement = Move the sticks-eat the clock We don't NEED a Read Option QB to run this offense. This O will EAT the clock and the D will keep the points down. WORKS FOR ME! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, The Hangman- C_Hanburger said: Exactly as *I* had hoped. #1 we got a edge rusher that is going to make the D scary. Get turn overs. Play field position, pressure BIG TIME #2 IF he even starts, we have a QB who is accurate and won't turn the ball over- Short quick routes and a running game to complement = Move the sticks-eat the clock We don't NEED a Read Option QB to run this offense. This O will EAT the clock and the D will keep the points down. WORKS FOR ME! This is all well and good--but this was our approach last year. Defense started out really well, then fell apart. Manusky is a mediocre at best DC--and there were complaints he changed his scheme half way through the season when we cratered. We want quick routes, ball control? Sure, that works in theory, but Haskins weaknesses include slow progressions and slow decision making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowhunter Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said: . We want quick routes, ball control? Sure, that works in theory, but Haskins weaknesses include slow progressions and slow decision making. Isn't his accuracy at/near the LOS something like 100%? I got a 100 on a quiz once, and I remember thinking that was like really good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hangman- C_Hanburger Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said: This is all well and good--but this was our approach last year. Defense started out really well, then fell apart. Manusky is a mediocre at best DC--and there were complaints he changed his scheme half way through the season when we cratered. We want quick routes, ball control? Sure, that works in theory, but Haskins weaknesses include slow progressions and slow decision making. I hope Ryan will help Manusky adjust. That's why I liked bringing him on. I agree..the D crumpled 1/2 way in and we got NO Pressure..I think we fixed the pressure and those 3rd down completions will at LEAST be reduced. THAT was a real problem..too many easy 3rd's. THAT has to be fixed and I hope Pressure and Collins and mabey a CB/safely hybrid in this draft. We will be better on D this year player wise and coaching so I think it will work. As for Haskins, Jay did it with Dalton. Timing routes and practice..lots of it and a O line addition this draft..can be done. THAT and Guice and AD is a BIG upside this year. I am hopeful..we have upgraded from last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedskins 21 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Can someone please get me excited about Sweat? I don't see it. He's Preston Smith all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 From Brewer's article that just twist my stomach over the Haskins pick: Quote fulfilling the wish — okay, demand — of owner Daniel Snyder and perhaps solving the dilemma of Alex Smith’s career-threatening injury. If the pre-draft conversation hadn’t included reports that Snyder and maligned team president Bruce Allen pushed hard for Haskins, the night would have been worthy of mass celebration. Instead, the reaction should be a mix of skepticism about the polarizing manner in which the organization functioned in acquiring Haskins. Snyder got his quarterback, even though Haskins could be a challenging fit in Gruden’s offense. Such fast-rising quarterbacks tend to take longer to develop in the NFL. There are questions about his functional mobility, about his ability to throw with anticipation and about his slow windup...Gruden’s system asks for a good amount of quarterback mobility and quick throws. He has quite a bit to learn, and this is not an offense with enough talent to support a first-year quarterback. I’m not in love with him as a prospect, but he has enough talent, if molded properly... Haskins seems like a nice young man, and to be frank, I always fear this organization’s ability to ruin people. Haskins is talented, but he's a terrible fit here, another square peg wedged into a round hole becuase of a familial tie--let's be honest if he didn't play with Snyder's son, would there be this much demand for him? He requires patience and coaching. Not sure which we have less of. https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/04/26/redskins-selection-dwayne-haskins-deserves-pat-back-healthy-dose-skepticism/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.6497ef6d36f4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommDownMan Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 19 hours ago, jsharrin55 said: I hope all this trade up talk gets the Giants to move up with Jets to get the guy they could at 6. That would be great, not that we'd ever know for sure. Make them give up some picks to get the same guy... So We will never know for sure, but I wonder if the Giants picked Jones at 6 instead of waiting, because of the skins chatter. Not as good as trading up, but I'm calling this a win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said: Haskins is talented, but he's a terrible fit here, another square peg wedged into a round hole becuase of a familial tie--let's be honest if he didn't play with Snyder's son, would there be this much demand for him? I don't buy that he is a terrible fit here. This is just sensationalistic bull**** by Brewer. To reiterate my stance (for those who haven't read everything): I'm not in love with Haskins as a QB. And I don't hate him as a QB. Wanted to put that out there as a primer for my response to Brewer... Haskins plays similarly to Alex Smith. Needs footwork improvements, steps up well in the pocket, good at putting the ball where it needs to be on underneath throws, intelligent football player, protects the football. Weakness is internal pocket collapse. What about any of that goes against him fitting on this roster? The Skins aren't a gunslinging offense throwing the ball all over the field for fun. They are a timing offense designed for receivers to get some space off of route combos and for the QB to make smart decisions with the football. Haskins does that. I saw someone say he is slow to make decisions. Sure, he was a few times. And it stands out on highlight/low light reels. But in game situations he was fine. He isn't a rollout passer in the mold of Cousins or Smith (that's where he and Smith differ). But he has a stronger arm than both of them. Coaching can help the wind up (though it may not). I'm most concerned with his throwing motion and his pocket sliding ability. I get it. People are pissed that Snyder likes the guy because of this hatred for what Dan has done to the team. But I think some people need to start looking at things without Snyder hate tinted glasses on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted April 26, 2019 Author Share Posted April 26, 2019 6 hours ago, Anselmheifer said: So much talent in the second. Looking at how many picks are left before we choose again, I wonder who our 3rd round targets should be, if we stay put. Thoughts? So much talent left at receiver and corner. Some good interior OLs left too. I'm hoping for one of my favorite receivers/corners in the third. And really really hoping for David Montgomery, but I have a suspicion that someone will take him in the second. The dream scenario for me is David Long falling to the third and getting Montgomery, then getting Te'Von Coney with a fifth. But I would also be thrilled with a bunch of other guys too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFi Skins Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Lots of talent still out there.... Who's left and where were they projected: 17. Byron Murphy, CB, Washington 19. Cody Ford, OT, Oklahoma 22. Jawaan Taylor, OT, Florida 24. D.K. Metcalf, WR, Ole Miss 25. Greedy Williams, CB, LSU 27. Dalton Risner, OL, Kansas State 30. Nasir Adderley, S, Delaware 31. Hakeem Butler, WR, Iowa State 35. Irv Smith Jr., TE, Alabama 36. Deebo Samuel, WR, South Carolina 38. Dre’Mont Jones, DT. Ohio State 39. Deionte Thompson, S, Alabama 40. A.J. Brown, WR, Ole Miss 41. Rock Ya-Sin, CB, Temple 42. Chauncey Gardner-Johnson, S/CB, Florida 43. Kelvin Harmon, WR, North Carolina State 44. Erik McCoy, C, Texas A&M 45. Greg Little, OT, Ole Miss 46. Juan Thornhill, S, Virginia 47. Mack Wilson, LB, Alabama 48. Drew Lock, QB, Missouri 49. Jachai Polite, OLB/DE, Florida 50. Jaylon Ferguson, DE, Louisiana Tech 51. Zach Allen, DE, Boston College 52. David Montgomery, RB, Iowa State 53. Parris Campbell, WR, Ohio State 54. Amani Hooker, S, Iowa 55. Chase Winovich, Edge, Michigan 56. Yodny Cajuste, OT, West Virginia 57. Devin Singletary, RB, Florida Atlantic 58. Sean Bunting, CB, Central Michigan 59. Damien Harris, RB, Alabama 60. Jace Sternberger, TE, Texas A&M 61. Elgton Jenkins, C, Mississippi State 64. Terry McLaurin, WR, Ohio State 65. Taylor Rapp, S, Washington 67. Justin Layne, CB, Michigan State 68. Julian Love, CB, Notre Dame 69. Dawson Knox, TE, Ole Miss 70. Khalen Saunders, DT,Western Illinois 71. Darrell Henderson, RB, Memphis 72. D’Andre Walker, Edge, Georgia 74. Amani Oruwariye, CB, Penn State 75. Gerald Willis, DT, Miami 76. Trayvon Mullen, CB, Clemson 77. Miles Sanders, RB, Penn State 78. Kaden Smith, TE, Stanford 79. Max Scharping, OT, Northern Illinois 80. Joejuan Williams, CB, Vanderbilt 81. David Long, CB, Michigan 82. Isaiah Buggs, DL, Alabama 83. Oshane Ximines, Edge, Old Dominion 84. Connor McGovern, G, Penn State 85. Andy Isabella, WR, Massachusetts 86. Christian Miller, Edge, Alabama 87. Michael Deiter, G, Wisconsin 88. Will Grier, QB, West Virginia 89. Riley Ridley, WR, Georgia 90. Anthony Nelson, DE, Iowa 91. Preston Williams, WR, Colorado State 92. Trayveon Williams, RB, Texas A&M 94. Jahlani Tavai, LB, Hawaii 95. Jamel Dean, CB, Auburn 96. Trysten Hill, DT, Central Florida 97. JJ Arcega-Whiteside, WR, Stanford 98. Te’Von Coney, LB, Notre Dame 99. Renell Wren, DT, Arizona State 100. Jamal Davis, Edge, Akron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin'emAlive Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 1 hour ago, JoeJacobyHOForRIOT said: What round is JJ Arcega Whiteside projected ? I'm not a expert on college football but behind Marquise Brown i thought he was the best WR last season. I would love to see this guy play for us I really like Whiteside, and have went to bat for him here. But I dont think he's the type you trade up significantly for, like we would have to. Also, I think he isnt the right fit for our team. JJ would be perfect on a team like Pittsburgh, Seattle, Indianapolis, or even New Orleans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Anyone else prepared to throw a day three pick out for Jachai Polite if he's still dropping down the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Riggo#44 said: We want quick routes, ball control? Sure, that works in theory, but Haskins weaknesses include slow progressions and slow decision making. This isn't remotely true. Kinda seems like you're falling into the trap of thinking he's Jason Campbell like some others. His mental processing is a strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin'emAlive Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 3 hours ago, stevemcqueen1 said: I would jump up for Metcalf or Butler, or I would sit tight in the third and let the draft come to me. I think there is a good chance that Deebo will be available at our first pick in that round. Metcalf is exactly the type of guy I'd like to trade up for, but I dont think we have the fire-power to make that move, and Im not sure if its the smart thing to do. Currently our draft assets are: 3rd 3rd 5th 5th 6th 7th 7th And we are already out of next years 2nd. If we paired both 3rds together, that would barely get us within range of Houston in the 2nd. The only way we could move up into the top half of the 2nd is to trade next year's 1st, or package a 3rd with a player like Jordan Reed or something. I dont see it happening. There will be a wr in the 3rd available. My guess as to who may be available in the 3rd is: 1. Anthony Johnson 2. David Sills 3. Terry McLaurin 4. Jaylon Hurd 5. Riley Ridley 6. Miles Boykin Of those guys, I think getting them at the bottom of the 3rd would be best. I highly doubt Deebo Samuel or JJ Arcega Whiteside will be on the board at 76. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted April 26, 2019 Author Share Posted April 26, 2019 Some of the ways that prospects win me over are 1 - when I go into an evaluation of them with a preconceived negative impression of their game and they are so excellent they immediately make me eat ****. And 2 - I'm watching cut ups or games for one of their teammates or opponents and they just pop so much that I abandon what I was doing and become transfixed on their play. David Long is the second situation. I didn't know about him before despite all of the time I spent on Gary and Bush and Hurst the year before, including watching several of their games live. TBH the broadcast view really sucks for watching corners and deep safeties. But he made some spectacular plays in coverage so that he finally caught my eye and I was like "holy crap, who the he'll is this kid? " Many cut ups later and I'm sold that he's the best press man corner in the class. David Montgomery is the first situation. Went in thinking this kid is slow, don't want. Watched like two cut ups and was immediately aware I was completely wrong about him. That kid is so damn good. A true workhorse, and one of the few potential offensive stars of the class. I think he could be one of the true steals of the class, and that getting him would give us an unbelievably talented backfield and the foundation for a very powerful offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 We have to take a LG in the 3rd round. We cant keep pretending that the QB can protect himself, or that Flowers is anything but a turnstile thats been uprooted from its mounts. I get people might want a safety, but we have dumped so many top 4 round picks into safety in recent years at some point we have to stop doing it(and stop cutting the only good ones we get). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted April 26, 2019 Author Share Posted April 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, UK SKINS FAN '74 said: Anyone else prepared to throw a day three pick out for Jachai Polite if he's still dropping down the draft. I really enjoyed watching him, but he's got a pretty bad off field reputation. At best, his horrible postseason performance and behavior suggests a lack of dedication and professionalism. I think we should just consider ourselves lucky to get Sweat and take a pass on Polite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin'emAlive Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 Personally, I think we just sit back and go BPA at 76 unless DK Metcalf inexplicably falls within trading range. There are a ton of great options at 76, and we have 2 years to draft the right guys around Dwayne. My board of possible available prospects at 76: 1. JJ Arcega Whiteside, WR 2. Elgton Jenkins, OL 3. Germaine Pratt, LB 4. JoeJuan Williams, DB 5. Khalen Saunders, DT 6. Deionte Thompson, S 7. David Long, DB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, stevemcqueen1 said: I really enjoyed watching him, but he's got a pretty bad off field reputation. At best, his horrible postseason performance and behavior suggests a lack of dedication and professionalism. I think we should just consider ourselves lucky to get Sweat and take a pass on Polite. Don't disagree with that approach. Might be tempted much later on in the draft as a flyer but yeh, he may well be trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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