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Miami Herald: I’m done trying to understand Trump supporters. Why don’t they try to understand me?


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Yeah the whole cosplay **** makes it even more bizarre too. Buffalo hat guy, Roman Legionaries, George Washington (who needs to be impeached), the dude dressed up as the Statue of Liberty, Uncle Sam, and of course all the military LARPers. 

 

When I see them all wearing the Trump flags as capes I think of this.

 

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Maybe President Ivanka can give QAnon Shaman a Medal of Freedom after she pardons him in 2025?

 

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More from this article/interview I posted in another thread:

 

NBC NEWS: And that's what I wanted to get to next. When you say it's not the final chapter, what should we expect in the coming weeks, months and maybe years?

 

JOHNSON: The government is — if they're responsible — going to be developing programs and resources to start combating the problem. These people have had over 10 years to stockpile weapons and ammunition to get stoked up and paranoid and fearful. So we've got to be very careful about how we go about cracking down on these groups. If there are gun laws passed, that's just going to feed right into their narratives, draw more recruits, radicalize people.

 

It needs to be more about de-radicalizing. Funding organizations that have people that have left the movement and can develop strategies on how to do outreach and pull people out. There needs to be a massive marketing campaign on what should citizens be doing. If you've got family members, neighbors, co-workers that are part of these movements, rather than ostracize and debate and criticize and isolate them, we need to love them, have compassion and bring them into the mainstream. The only way you're going to get rid of hate is through love. Every person I've ever known about that's been a white supremacist has left the movement through an act of compassion or love. They didn't leave it because someone convinced them that their belief systems were wrong.

 

NBC NEWS: Do you believe the president's defeat will potentially stoke the fires even more, or do you think his ouster paves the way for calming them?

 

JOHNSON: It has the potential to do either. And it's going to depend on Republican leaders, what they decide to do. Because the Democrats, no matter how hard they're going to try, these people won't listen. It's going to take Republican leadership for these people to listen and actually tone down.

 

The majority of these people are radicalizing in different phases of it. They haven't committed criminal actions yet. Those are the ones that you need to talk to — don't jump off the side of the cliff and become a terrorist. Focus on the root causes of the radicalization: the conspiracy theories, the lies and disinformation that was put out there. All that needs to be done through churches, faith-based communities, civil rights organizations, veterans organizations.

 

NBC NEWS: To be clear, are you suggesting that the new administration not pursue any gun control measures?

 

JOHNSON: Exactly. They should avoid that at all costs. Because all that does is play exactly into what the extremists believe — that Democrats will come after your guns. When you start threatening their guns, they're going to get more defensive and even pre-emptive and more angry and agitated. So I would hold off on that and focus more on community engagement and trying to get these people to renounce QAnon, renounce that the vote was rigged and that there was rampant voter fraud.

 

These people that invaded the Capitol last week thought they were doing a noble endeavor. They thought they were rescuing the Constitution and protecting our nation, that they were true patriots against this evil group of people that want to take away our rights and put us in a socialist state. So that is a huge, huge problem — the fact that we have political leaders, including the president, that's basically implanted that idea and has not backed away from it.

 

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11 hours ago, clietas said:

Yeah the whole cosplay **** makes it even more bizarre too. Buffalo hat guy, Roman Legionaries, George Washington (who needs to be impeached), the dude dressed up as the Statue of Liberty, Uncle Sam, and of course all the military LARPers. 

 

I don't know why, but this guy was the kicker for me. He looks like a rogue adult Harry Potter minus all the magic skills.

 

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22 minutes ago, balki1867 said:

I don't know why, but this guy was the kicker for me. He looks like a rogue adult Harry Potter minus all the magic skills.

 

And is he a police officer?  Or in possession of things which he took off of a police officer?  

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In 2016 the GOP made a decision to go all-in on the growing "Trump movement."  They saw the momentum behind him, and instead of really pushing to get rid of the dangers he brought, they all rolled over and decided that they would deal with the awfulness if Trump was willing to push the usual right-wing policies.  We've seen the countless clips from 2016, a lot of these elected officials saying how they really felt about Trump before he won the nomination.  We know they are all frauds & cowards.

 

The dilemma I see is in right-wing media.  They also abandoned any principles they had (did they have any to begin with?) and got behind Trump.  They are in the money-making business and the way to keep the dollars rolling in is to appease your audience.  They helped cultivate and grow the Trump brand all in the name of keeping power and pushing big monied interests.

 

For where I see things, there is no going back until right-wing media at large has a reckoning and finally decides enough is enough.  Of course the only way this happens is if Trump/Trump's brand loses enough popularity that it is no longer monetarily lucrative to be a Trump lackey on the radio and on the evening cables news programs.

 

Working at home I catch bits & pieces of a lot of shows I would normally not ever see.  Today on The View of all shows, Meghan McCain was reading off the polls from GOP voters and it still remains largely in support of everything Trump.   Why is this?  Because the radio and TV programs they are listening to and watching on a daily basis are normalizing and justifying.  Most of them are still going on about the election being stolen even if they are trying to use "softer language" surrounding the issue.  I noticed during the 2nd impeachment hearings a lot of the GOP reps went from saying "voter fraud" to "voicing concerns."  See how they changed the messaging to be a lot more vague, but they still refuse to admit fully that it was a bunch of nonsense to begin with?  They are still simultaneously in fear of and looking for the support from the Trump mob.  

 

Understanding Trump supporters is actually somewhat easy once you watch a couple hours of the propaganda they have been ingesting for the last four years. 

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3 hours ago, TK said:

From here on I think I'm just going to call him The Orange Skull. :) 

And speaking of Cap, it's been reported that Chris Evans is in talks with Marvel to come back to the MCU as Captain America. Wonderful timing. Hopefully it's to give Orange Skull the send off he deserves. Kinda like this. :) 

 

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