justice98 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 14 hours ago, Jericho said: One of the biggest problems in trading for a WR is the fact it takes time for anyone to get up to speed. What the Pats did with Gordon is a decent example and it really took close to 4 weeks for Gordon to get going. Speaking of which, Gordon was probably the right answer here trade wise. Cheap contract, still young, and not costing much in compensation. Garçon looks pretty washed up with a ton of money left on his contract. Thomas is young and better, but with one huge year left on his contract. And DJax would seem to be a poor fit in an offense where the QB doesn't throw downfield. And of course, all of them likely wouldn't do much for several weeks. Basically none seem like great options Gordon also hadnt really been in training camp, showed up and played, and then hurt his hammy and didn't play again until after he got traded. So that also contributed to him being slow to get going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 I think Karl Jospeh would be worth a late round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malapropismic Depository Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 18 hours ago, NickyJ said: Trading for Demarius Thomas isn't crazy. Trading only Colt for him would be crazy. Trading something/someone along with Colt is not crazy. Now for actually crazy stuff we shouldn't talk about? I guess you're right. Like talking about trading Khalil Mack for two first round draft picks. No one would do that! ? Or trading a first rounder for Amari Cooper. I havn't looked, but I hope noone suggested that crazy idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcdiscokid Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 19 hours ago, NickyJ said: Trading for Demarius Thomas isn't crazy. Trading only Colt for him would be crazy. Trading something/someone along with Colt is not crazy. Now for actually crazy stuff we shouldn't talk about? I guess you're right. Like talking about trading Khalil Mack for two first round draft picks. No one would do that! ? Oh I agree, just saying lets talk about a real package for him, not just a career back up QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malapropismic Depository Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Hopefully we don't resort to suggesting to trading for a Larry Fitzgerald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 16 minutes ago, Malapropismic Depository said: Hopefully we don't resort to suggesting to trading for a Larry Fitzgerald Don’t leave this thread then ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShredder Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 I just don't view adding WRs as good mid season trades. How much time does it take for QB and WR to gain continuity? 3-4 weeks or sometimes a season. I don't view these trades as good mid season moves. Skins need a CB really bad. These trades, even as rentals for mid season runs aren't burdened with the continuity link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakedtater1 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Just read a tid bit on NFL.com about how the Giants should shop Landon Collins..that he could be had for a 3rd?!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malapropismic Depository Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, bakedtater1 said: Just read a tid bit on NFL.com about how the Giants should shop Landon Collins..that he could be had for a 3rd?!! I believe that's just rumor. It's only half true, meaning the trade interest is one-sided ; that teams are calling NY about Collins, but NY is not interested in dealing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OVCChairman Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 9 hours ago, bakedtater1 said: Just read a tid bit on NFL.com about how the Giants should shop Landon Collins..that he could be had for a 3rd?!! I can't imagine Mara would ever sign off on us getting a player from them at fair market value. If he could be had for a 3rd, we'd have to likely pay a 1st / 2nd, or a 3rd + additional picks. That said.. I'd love to see Collins here. We have a good defense already, and he could possibly put it over the top. DJ would have to play a lot of CF as Collins is not the best in pass coverage, but his ability to crash down is GREAT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFi Skins Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Send next years 4th to Denver for Demaryius Thomas... Solves a lot of problems. True #1, possession receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OVCChairman Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Just now, SemperFi Skins said: Send next years 4th to Denver for Demaryius Thomas... Solves a lot of problems. True #1, possession receiver. I'd be for this... I want to say that Denver has come out and said he's not on the market, I KNOW they said that about Sanders, but for some reason I thought they shut the door on both. With Sutton showing flashes, and their need to improve, it would make sense that they want to get value for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakedtater1 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 29 minutes ago, SemperFi Skins said: Send next years 4th to Denver for Demaryius Thomas... Solves a lot of problems. True #1, possession receiver. Long time no see ya round here..but ya, I like this idea too..I think it would help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTskin Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Alex's problem is that he doesn't like to throw to a WR who doesn't have separation... Demaryius has lost a step and isn't the guy to solve this issue. On top of that, he's on the hook for $17M next year, so he would likely be a half-season rental. Couple all of the fact that Alex doesn't target WRs in general, I don't see the benefit. We're not one player away. The only mid-season trades that I'm looking for are for young players or players on team-friendly deals; both of which are rare and expensive. Mortgaging any bit of the future for a short term, minimal gain is something that I don't understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OVCChairman Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 9 minutes ago, CTskin said: Alex's problem is that he doesn't like to throw to a WR who doesn't have separation... Demaryius has lost a step and isn't the guy to solve this issue. On top of that, he's on the hook for $17M next year, so he would likely be a half-season rental. Couple all of the fact that Alex doesn't target WRs in general, I don't see the benefit. We're not one player away. The only mid-season trades that I'm looking for are for young players or players on team-friendly deals; both of which are rare and expensive. Mortgaging any bit of the future for a short term, minimal gain is something that I don't understand. lol man i said almost the exact same thing about Fitz in that thread haha. I do think Thomas has more separation than others... and i will freely admit that when I endorsed the deal, I had not looked at the financial side of it regarding his salary. For some reason I thought he was under a better contract. Definitely more hesitant looking at his contract situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTskin Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, OVCChairman said: lol man i said almost the exact same thing about Fitz in that thread haha. I do think Thomas has more separation than others... and i will freely admit that when I endorsed the deal, I had not looked at the financial side of it regarding his salary. For some reason I thought he was under a better contract. Definitely more hesitant looking at his contract situation. Yea they are very similar players. I'd MUCH prefer Emmanuel Sanders if he was an option over either of the aforementioned. He's an excellent slot WR who always gains separation. Short routes + separation = happy Alex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OVCChairman Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Just now, CTskin said: Yea they are very similar players. I'd MUCH prefer Emmanuel Sanders if he was an option over either of the aforementioned. He's an excellent slot WR who always gains separation. Short routes + separation = happy Alex. I thought we had that... Crowder. What limited time we saw with Crowder, it wasn't exactly mind blowing. A small part of me wonders if Quinn isn't gonna have better results with Smith because they actually got to practice together. Quinn didn't get any 'vet' days, and he was likely running the slot position during camp and practices prior to getting hurt. It's a reach, I know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTskin Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 1 minute ago, OVCChairman said: I thought we had that... Crowder. What limited time we saw with Crowder, it wasn't exactly mind blowing. A small part of me wonders if Quinn isn't gonna have better results with Smith because they actually got to practice together. Quinn didn't get any 'vet' days, and he was likely running the slot position during camp and practices prior to getting hurt. It's a reach, I know... I'm one of the few who's down on Crowder. I said it in another thread, I think a lot of people only remember the post-2016 season hype. I don't want to say that he has regressed since then, but he certainly didn't take another step forward and hasn't been any bit of a gamechanger. Emmanuel is a proven top tier slot WR. I'm right there with you on Quinn. I think he will be a legitimate starter, but no idea how high his upside is. I believe we fully intend to let Crowder walk in FA after this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OVCChairman Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, CTskin said: I'm one of the few who's down on Crowder. I said it in another thread, I think a lot of people only remember the post-2016 season hype. I don't want to say that he has regressed since then, but he certainly didn't take another step forward and hasn't been any bit of a gamechanger. Emmanuel is a proven top tier slot WR. I'm right there with you on Quinn. I think he will be a legitimate starter, but no idea how high his upside is. I believe we fully intend to let Crowder walk in FA after this year. I'm with ya 100%. I've been ready to let Crowder go since the offseason. I was HOPEFUL we were use him and he was gonna prove me wrong but... that Dallas game last year killed me. You're right... that 2016 hype was real, but I worry about his hands, and now more-so, his durability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTskin Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 10 minutes ago, OVCChairman said: I'm with ya 100%. I've been ready to let Crowder go since the offseason. I was HOPEFUL we were use him and he was gonna prove me wrong but... that Dallas game last year killed me. You're right... that 2016 hype was real, but I worry about his hands, and now more-so, his durability. Jesus man, if we agree any more we're going to need to get a room! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Wanted to bump this with the trade deadline approaching. A couple of names I would have some interest in. Golden Tate: Basically a 9 game rental. he is a FA at the end of the season. But he would give us a vertical threat for the playoff run. Janoris Jenkins: Not a great CB. But in the top half of the league. And I think you could probably get him for a mid to late rounder. Would be a good mentor for our young and banged up secondary. And a good fit across from Norman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malapropismic Depository Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Cowboys fired their O-Line coach. Should we trade them Bill Callahan for Sean Lee and Amari Cooper ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audible_Red40 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Walterfootball's take/opinion on trade block players: http://walterfootball.com/nflpossibilities.php Quote Raiders DE/OLB Bruce Irvin could be traded Peter King mentioned that Bruce Irvin could be the next veteran the Raiders could unload. That makes sense, as Irvin, 31 in November, will earn $9 million in 2019. He's not going to be part of the re-building process Washington Redskins: The Redskins have a great defensive line, but their edge rush is lacking outside of Ryan Kerrigan. Irvin would be a nice complement for Kerrigan. Quote Lions make WR Golden Tate available for trade Golden Tate is in his contract year, so it would make sense that the Lions are making him available for trade. Tate turns 31 this offseason, but he could really help a team get over the hump this year. Per reports, the Lions are requesting a fourth-round pick for Tate, which sounds fair. Washington Redskins: The Redskins are atop the division, thanks to their defense and running game. Their passing attack is pretty pedestrian, but that would change with Tate aiding Alex Smith. Tate seems like the exact type of receiver Smith would love to throw to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOSKINS_08 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I’m all in for trying to get Golden Tate. And for only a 4th? I’d do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bird_1972 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 36 minutes ago, GOSKINS_08 said: I’m all in for trying to get Golden Tate. And for only a 4th? I’d do it. I feel like there is a catch here... What draft picks to the Skins currently have in 2019? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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