thebluefood Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 I never got a lot of direct threats but I always heard, felt, and saw the hostility. The worst was my own mother - who would take time to tell me how awful the media is from time to time. Knowing your own mother doesn't have your back - probably feels similarly to the person who shot those people at the Gazette today. Between that and the literal starvation wages? Yeah - can't say I miss it. Still, though - feel a great deal of solidarity with reporters. These are the latest in more than two dozen deaths of journalists in 2018 alone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 34 minutes ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said: Oh yes it would have. It's the GOP and FOXNews and INFOWARS, et all's fault. If Hillary had been president, it may have even gotten worse. I don’t really agree. I think Trump would have just gone away if Hillary won and we wouldn’t have Nazis marching on Charlottesville, people fine with putting foreigners in concentration camps or citizens threating the free press. Trump is the common denominator. He supports this in his continuing rhetoric. These people are dead because of Trump. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluefood Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, Springfield said: I don’t really agree. I think Trump would have just gone away if Hillary won and we wouldn’t have Nazis marching on Charlottesville, people fine with putting foreigners in concentration camps or citizens threating the free press. Trump is the common denominator. He supports this in his continuing rhetoric. These people are dead because of Trump. I dunno 'bout that. Remember, he had "plans" to make a "news station" if he lost the election and while he probably would have been cringy as hell, he would have had a devoted following. Plus, as I said earlier, you don't need to win an election to start a movement. Goldwater got BTFO in the general election in '64 but he basically got the Conservative Movement started. After Trump won the nomination, his impact (and whatever passes for his "ideology" - a word I use very loosely in this context) had already been made and the wheels were in motion. You don't have to win every battle to win a war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) Edited June 29, 2018 by visionary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 We don’t know if this was related to an antimedia sentiment fueled by trump, it if it was something along those lines it would seem that milo should be facing some criminal charges.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) https://twitter.com/EricHartleyFrnd ? Edited June 29, 2018 by visionary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: We don’t know if this was related to an antimedia sentiment fueled by trump While that is a fair statement, it is unquestionable that the popularity and rise of this wave of up front, viscious, anti-media sentiment is 100% on Trump, and has emboldened others with their own personal gripe with the media. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: We don’t know if this was related to an antimedia sentiment fueled by trump, Some sure seem to. Get outta here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Is there any group that isn't threatened online at this point? Seems like anyone that has a political opinion that anyone else cares to listen to is immediately hated, threatened, and might have their personal information posted. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 7 minutes ago, Destino said: Is there any group that isn't threatened online at this point? Seems like anyone that has a political opinion that anyone else cares to listen to is immediately hated, threatened, and might have their personal information posted. Any other group isn't actively exposing the traitor scumbag president and all his homies at every possible turn, drawing his ire and putting him on the defensive to the point where he attacks them every chance he gets and encourages others to do the same. That type of **** has consequences that go beyond just some run of the mill gump ass threats on the internet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Destino said: Is there any group that isn't threatened online at this point? Seems like anyone that has a political opinion that anyone else cares to listen to is immediately hated, threatened, and might have their personal information posted. It's not really at all the same, though there is some cross over with the harassment and threats women get online. Edited June 29, 2018 by visionary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Cop on CNN just said the fingerprints thing isn't true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Milo defends himself https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/maryland-shooting-annapolis-milo-yiannopoulous-capital-gazette-journalists-gun-baltimore-sun-a8422256.html This dude is a scumbag and his explanation is weak, it doesn't even make sense. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Spaceman Spiff said: Milo defends himself https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/maryland-shooting-annapolis-milo-yiannopoulous-capital-gazette-journalists-gun-baltimore-sun-a8422256.html This dude is a scumbag and his explanation is weak, it doesn't even make sense. It kills me that so many people followed him and that he was empowered to be the jerk he was. And it was all good free speech until he was talking about sexing little boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskins59 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) What was the defamation lawsuit about? I guess the newspaper knew about this guy. They published something about this guy that he didn't like. There is a possibility that this isn't political but personal. Edited June 29, 2018 by redskins59 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said: Cop on CNN just said the fingerprints thing isn't true. many people have jobs that remove/disfigure finger prints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said: We don’t know if this was related to an antimedia sentiment fueled by trump, it if it was something along those lines it would seem that milo should be facing some criminal charges.... I think we're giving Trump far too much credit on this. The political wings have hated media for a long time. Democraticunderground was complaining about the corrupt sold out MSM or "corporate media" more than a decade ago, and still are. The rights had "liberal media" long before "fake news" and it means the exact same thing. This isn't equal though because democratic leaders haven't embraced this paranoia, while Republicans have basically adopted it as a completely standard part of republican political discourse. Trump is following a pattern of taking bad ideas, or situations, that were already in place and just irresponsibly taking them to a extremes others weren't willing to do. The Wall, family separations, media hatred, the tone of rhetoric for political rivals, torture, drone strikes... everything. Someone else laid the ground work and Trump showed up and said "Yeah I like this, let's do it 100x more!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Just now, Llevron said: It kills me that so many people followed him and that he was empowered to be the jerk he was. And it was all good free speech until he was talking about sexing little boys. I didn't even hear about anything in regards to sexting little boys. I've seen him on Maher's show, couldn't stand listening to him. He's still got a following. Talk loud, be brash, don't apologize for anything and you can go far, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) Having spent the last few minutes reading back through the suspect’s twitter account, this seems like a specific targeting of this paper and not a Trump-motivated attack on journalists. Wish people wouldn’t jump to conclusions, it just distracts from the basic fact that Trump is still a piece of **** and his attacks on journalists are anti-American. Edited June 29, 2018 by skinsfan_1215 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Spaceman Spiff Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 1 minute ago, skinsfan_1215 said: Having spent the last few minutes reading back through the suspect’s twitter account, this seems like a specific targeting of this paper and not a Trump-motivated attack on journalists. Wish people wouldn’t jump to conclusions, it just distracts from the basic fact that Trump is still a piece of **** and his attacks on journalists are anti-American. People are going to bring their agendas to this, no matter what. Looks like this guy represented himself in court last week on an appeal and lost, according to this: This lady looks like a Baltimore freelance investigative journalist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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visionary Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1012497724967710720 https://twitter.com/LadyCatHT/status/1012490824028958726 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Further, Trump could end this. He, and only he, has the power. At one of the Hitleresque rallies that he has every few days, with the media in the back that his supporters heckle. All he has to do is end it. If he shames these mouth breathers from heckling the media then they’ll stop. Problem solved. Nothing will happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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