goskins10 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 39 minutes ago, Chachie said: I had my issues with Bush but I have to say I don't remember him being "overly" partisan. Some others here may be able to correct me on that. President Obama was the first president I actually liked going all the way back to Nixon. Voted for Reagan once but then instantly regretted it. Didn't like Carter (although he is a great ex-president). H was OK but not a big fan - didn't like Clinton although he did do a good job in the end. Really didn't like W. But every single one of those presidents - I felt once in office did not abandon the idea that they represented all the people in the US. I may have disagreed with their policies but at least they believed they were doing the right thing. And they all did some significant bi-partisan work. For example the last meaningful immigration reforms were passed by W with the full support of Nancy Pelosi. H signed a pretty big tax increase into place to attempt to offset the ridiculous deficit spending Reagan created with his massive tax cuts. But no president in that entire time went as far to make sure any one who opposed them was marginalized and actively attacked - despite those presidents all taking beatings in the press like 45 has. All those other presidents, including Obama - although mitch and the republicans refused to even try to work with him - tried to remain non-partisan with the understanding they were voted in based on their beliefs. But they did not actively attack average citizens. It should be beneath the dignity of the office. And this - he just gives back what he gets is the cowards excuse. Everyone who says that is just as big a coward and bully - yes they are pretty much the same - as 45 is. The problem is that he is now legislating with petty vindictiveness. He is using the power of the office to hurt others simple to satisfy his own ego. And people can democrat this and democrat that and it's all bull****. None of those democrats are president. It is up to the person is that office to better than that. The office demands it, the country demands it to remain the greatest country on earth. Him and those not doing their jobs to hold him accountable - looking at the republican house and senate members - are turning this country into just another 2 bit dictatorship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Chachie said: I had my issues with Bush but I have to say I don't remember him being "overly" partisan. Some others here may be able to correct me on that. yeah partisanship wasn’t his issue. In fact at the end he refused to go along with the gop’s play to deal with the economic issues. Because economists were telling him it would be very damaging. So the gop turned on him at the end (they eat their own if he/she falls out of line the slightest) his problem was not knowing when he was being played by Cheney and crew. 32 minutes ago, goskins10 said: Everyone who says that is just as big a coward and bully - yes they are pretty much the same - as 45 is. Yup the truth is identity politics are king and trump supporters apparently identify with being a bully and a coward; a moron and a carnival barker; a liar and a criminal; a womanizer; someone who publicly calls the FBI scum; someone who seems to have an affinity for dictators yeah, trump supporters are honest-to-god losers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 1 hour ago, nonniey said: This is a rather clueless callout given my posting history on Trump. Especially when it comes to Kelly and Vindman or any idiotic Trump interaction with the military. i was thinking more of twa's posting (who attempted to qualify i see,) and of course in general i know your posting well but just included you more as an active conservative poster.....it did occur to me that kelly part may not apply so much to you---i figured i would either see how you replied or go look up posts later...as it is, i just take you at your word on it, it and withdraw any clueless implication that you criticized vindman or that process i'll stand by the rest of that post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonniey Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, Jumbo said: i was thinking more of twa's posting (who attempted to qualify i see,) and of course in general i know your posting well but just included you more as an active conservative poster.....it did occur to me that kelly part may not apply so much to you---i figured i would either see how you replied or go look up posts later...as it is, i just take you at your word on it, it and withdraw any clueless implication that you criticized vindman or that process i'll stand by the rest of that post Probably once a quarter Trump does something that gets my blood boiling to the levels most of the rest of you have all the time. How he removed and publicly attacked Vindman and treated Kelly (now and in the past) are examples of those instances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 If Trump is still in office after 2020, it will be ‘interesting’ to see the possible infighting between Kushner/Ivanka and Trump Jr.. for the succession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, nonniey said: Probably once a quarter Trump does something that gets my blood boiling to the levels most of the rest of you have all the time. How he removed and publicly attacked Vindman and treated Kelly (now and in the past) are examples of those instances. i sometimes think i don't actually get angry as much over trump as i should, partly cuz i've always seen him as garbage (same for his family) ...i'm jaded on some aspects of human nature......now as far as what i post, i learned a long time ago that one can find very colorful ways of expressing every emotion or event, even extreme ones, without necessarily experiencing the actual feelings being described at the time of the writing .........or one can always go with the "a dish best served cold" for various forms of anger btw, conservative, bad on you for only getting seriously riled once a quarter with trump---where the ****'s your judgment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Larry Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 35 minutes ago, nonniey said: Probably once a quarter Trump does something that gets my blood boiling to the levels most of the rest of you have all the time. How he removed and publicly attacked Vindman and treated Kelly (now and in the past) are examples of those instances. Far as I'm concerned, the thing that ought to be the first item on the charging document ought to be: 1) He personally asked the head of the FBI to guarantee that the national security investigation the bureau was running would not mention that any of his campaign were involved. 2) And then fired him when he didn't agree. To me, nothing he's done since then (that I know about) has been as bad as that one. Or as obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry.Randolphe Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 How is Bloomberg polling this high? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Very close to violating ES standards...gonna go for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Haven't hard from Ralph Nader in awhile. I knew he was older, didn't realize he was 10 years older than Biden & Bernie. Sure doesn't sound like it the way he still brings the fire. His interview on The Intercept, he really nails why progressive candidates fail time after time despite having the majority of people on their side on a good amount of issues:Ralph Nader on The Intercept Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, NoCalMike said: Haven't hard from Ralph Nader in awhile. I knew he was older, didn't realize he was 10 years older than Biden & Bernie. Sure doesn't sound like it the way he still brings the fire. His interview on The Intercept, he really nails why progressive candidates fail time after time despite having the majority of people on their side on a good amount of issues:Ralph Nader on The Intercept don’t suppose you could just summarize?? 26 minutes ago, Barry.Randolphe said: How is Bloomberg polling this high? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills really effective messaging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 29 minutes ago, Barry.Randolphe said: How is Bloomberg polling this high? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills Money, name ID, and Biden tanking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, Hersh said: don’t suppose you could just summarize?? The interview is pretty new, they usually throw up a transcript within a few days. I will keep an eye out for it and I will paste the real meat of the argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Larry Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Re: Limbaugh attacking Pete for being "a gay guy who loves to hiss his husband". I think if I'm Pete, I would be praying at night for Trump to pick up that line. I think my response would be: Well, he's my first spouse. And Vladimer Putin didn't pocket a commision on the sale when I ordered him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Bloomberg. "Goodnight Gainsboro. There will be no encore." 😈 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 $6,000 a month? I'll knock doors for Bloomberg. Sports gambling thread, I'm coming home! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Bloomberg fighting the socialism of Brunei Sanders by.....giving away more **** than anyone ever has😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Bloomberg.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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visionary Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Hmmm. 'All campaigns'.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 There are definitely legit verified Sanders supporters doing a lot of harassing and name-calling, from what I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 I don’t know how many of you are also on reddit, but hole lee ****. That place is full on blowie for Bernie Sanders and absolutely, completely and undeniably anti any other dem candidate. It’s almost as if it’s getting influenced by Russian advocates or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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